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Another vote for CtP2 at top stop.
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October 26, 2003, 12:53
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NWIH 
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October 26, 2003, 12:54
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How about merging the civ3MP forum though?with the PBEM one perhaps.
There's really hardly any traffic....
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October 26, 2003, 12:57
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 . Now I have to scroll even further to go between A/C and OT and the demogames!
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And I though Civ3 was already above A/C and OT.
So actual nothing important happened CTP2 wasn't moved to the top where it belongs to.
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October 26, 2003, 14:36
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Originally posted by alva
How about merging the civ3MP forum though?with the PBEM one perhaps.
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Good idea actually.
That and moving the Civ3-Conquests forum just below the Civ3 general would make things better organized 
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October 27, 2003, 03:57
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I don't like the move to the top. Again other scrolling habits, not much help. Also, I recommend to wait with the merge of Civ3-MP and Civ3-PBEM until after the Conquests release. May be it turns out that online MP actually works this time and the MP forum will see some activity except the inevitable "Is anybody out there" post every other week.
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October 27, 2003, 04:16
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October 27, 2003, 04:49
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Forums ought to sorted by usage for maximum efficiency. Then again, who else here goes straight to forumid=147?
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October 27, 2003, 05:15
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Civ II MP is still the best Civ Game!
I think it's interesting that the Civ II MP civ group has more members than the Civ III MP civ group
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Yeah? What about PBEM?
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October 27, 2003, 05:55
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Long live Civ III....
until we get Civ IV
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October 27, 2003, 09:32
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Long live Rise of Nations
until we get SMAC 2
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October 27, 2003, 09:42
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Originally posted by notyoueither
Yeah? What about PBEM?
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If you look at the Civ III MP civ group, they are at 120 vs 122 for the Civ II MP civ group. So Civ II wins that one.
You are correct when it comes to PBEM... 139 for Civ III vs 53 for Civ II.
But when you think about how old Civ II is, those are still remarkable numbers and makes a statement about how solid Civ II still is. While Civ III maybe ok for PBEM, it is really not a good Live MP game.
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October 27, 2003, 09:51
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What makes it so different? (never played civ2MP and hardly any civ3 MP)
True about civ2 lasting a long time though 
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October 27, 2003, 10:09
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I haven't been overly impressed with the reliability of Civ3 MP. It's not the game I don't like, its the coordination and MP issues.
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October 27, 2003, 10:10
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Civ III has many nice new features and better graphics.
However, the science system with it's research cap stink... and the trade system is worthless. The combat system was a step backwards... I could go on.
Civ II MP is far more playable live, and is also more interesting
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October 27, 2003, 10:16
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Hmmm, the research cap can be easily modded out (just set min research to 1 turn and max to 999), but how is the trade system worthless? I find the 20-turn deals better than having one caravan delivered being enough for a game long trade. The combat system of Civ3 sucks, though, although the Civ2 system is also not without flaws.
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October 27, 2003, 10:31
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Hmmm, the research cap can be easily modded out (just set min research to 1 turn and max to 999),
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I tried that and it kept crashing.
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October 27, 2003, 12:10
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To make life simpler for most of the people here, then you could put the OT on top, and relegate all of the real forums to subsections of the OT behemoth.
I agree that Civ 3 should be at the top of the list (well, at least until Civ 4 comes out), as this was the merger of the Greek Civ site and the Ultimate Civ site, not the Ultimate RoN site and the Greek AC site. Civ 3 is 'poly's biggest draw and the majority of (on-topic) posts will be made in the Civ 3 forums.
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October 27, 2003, 13:02
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I just wanted to take a cheap shot at the luddite Civ2 crowd
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October 27, 2003, 17:09
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Very nice indeed!
Especcially now when the new x-pack is released.
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October 27, 2003, 23:18
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But when you think about how old Civ II is, those are still remarkable numbers and makes a statement about how solid Civ II still is. While Civ III maybe ok for PBEM, it is really not a good Live MP game.
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Agreed. Civ II does have legs. I doubt very much that 3 will hold on as well if and when 4 comes along. That is if 4 is to 3 as II was to the original.
Of course, C3C looks good, so we'll see.
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October 28, 2003, 01:43
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Add another vote for Civ2, the game people actually enjoy playing.
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So what, I've been a masochist all this time playing Civ3?
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October 28, 2003, 01:48
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Originally posted by Ming
Civ II MP is still the best Civ Game!
I think it's interesting that the Civ II MP civ group has more members than the Civ III MP civ group
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maybe because the real civ 3 mp community has it's own website, the ladder? http://www.myleague.com/civ3players/
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Civ III has many nice new features and better graphics.
However, the science system with it's research cap stink... and the trade system is worthless. The combat system was a step backwards... I could go on.
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Give me 20 howitzers and I'll give you the world (and on deity). Yeah right it's better.... 
I do agree that thanks to scenario creation Civ2 has longer-lasting potential. But other than that the regular game is nowhere near comparable in strategic depth, challange, and replay value to Civ3.
Hopefully Civ4 will not only have a good regular game but all the scenario features that Civ2 players want (and add some of the stuff that was in SMAC). Only then will the Civ/SMAC community be one...
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October 28, 2003, 03:38
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Good MZ, good. Now trying it in this forum, uh? What a feeling of deja vu
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October 28, 2003, 04:10
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October 28, 2003, 04:57
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Screw Civ III. Tally up a vote for Civ II.
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October 29, 2003, 15:38
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Civ III graphics are trash. Long live Civ II graphics!
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October 29, 2003, 16:06
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Are you guys sure you aren't all Danes.
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October 29, 2003, 16:52
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I'm not a Dane, but as a Norwegian, I certainly isn't too far off...
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October 29, 2003, 22:51
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Scandinavian-born's... I suppose it's the culture
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