November 1, 2003, 19:31
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There is no advantage to using Open Source software in the military if you must release any modifications you make to it to anyone else, like China.
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Why not?
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November 1, 2003, 19:41
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Originally posted by Asher
There is no advantage to using Open Source software in the military if you must release any modifications you make to it to anyone else, like China.
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Why would the US army obey the Public License?
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November 1, 2003, 22:00
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Originally posted by DanS
Why not?
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Because you can do the same thing with commercial software -- ergo there is no advantage of open source.
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Originally posted by Spiffor
Why would the US army obey the Public License?
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Because otherwise it would set precedent as saying the GPL is invalid. Which would be great, actually. 
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November 1, 2003, 22:09
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November 1, 2003, 23:29
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Because you can do the same thing with commercial software -- ergo there is no advantage of open source.
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Is the government in the habit of modifying the Windows operating system and then releasing it back to MS?
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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November 1, 2003, 23:33
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Originally posted by Asher
Because otherwise it would set precedent as saying the GPL is invalid. Which would be great, actually.
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Not like MS hasn't been using GPL code inside their programs without releasing the resulting code.
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November 2, 2003, 00:42
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
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I also have checked out the Community forum and Spif's thread in OT , along with the counterglow forums , where Asher joked about this . I don't mind doing the right thing , I mind doing it the wrong way .
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What wrong way? Maybe you would have prefered a PM to a mod, but when asked the mod would have said he got a PM and all the Macheads would have suspected Asher (even if it wasn't him). Granted, if I came upon the forum, I would have just PMed Ming, but then Asher would take the heat anyway. The Macheads hate him for breaking up their parties with cold, hard facts  .
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hi ,
facts that only seems to be facts to a small group of people , ....
have a nice day
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November 2, 2003, 02:11
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Originally posted by DanS
Is the government in the habit of modifying the Windows operating system and then releasing it back to MS?
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I don't think you understand.
I never implied anything of the sort -- but one of the perceived advantages of Open Source is how you can get to the code and modify it to your will. Since this isn't an option for places like the Army, it nullifies that advantage.
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November 2, 2003, 02:12
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Not like MS hasn't been using GPL code inside their programs without releasing the resulting code.
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Prove it or can it.
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Not like Linux hasn't been using proprietary code inside their OS without paying the licensing fee.
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November 2, 2003, 03:31
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Sorry to bring up this debate again , but Hitler brought about the recovery of the German economy and created jobs . Would you endorse that , just because it was the right thing , irrespective of the way he did it ? Glonkie didn't have to gloat (negatively) afterwords , and here I'm not referring to the metohds , I'm referring to his style of replying to other posters , and casting aspersions as to their mental integrity .
Back OT :
Let the courts decide whether Linux is using proprietary code . Though I do agree , using Open Source is rather useless if you have to release the code to all and sundry (in a military environment , that is) .
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November 2, 2003, 04:20
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Godwin's Law! Woohoo.
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