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Bereta_Eder · November 1, 2003, 18:32

Just remember: The route to hell is paved with good intentions!

Pekka · November 1, 2003, 18:34

paiktis, yes but I also know this! So it's not a danger to us. You see, I look for your well being. Yes you paiktis. And the rest of you. And all the people, I don't have priorities and responsibilities for any countries. That would make me best candidate.

Pekka · November 1, 2003, 18:43

Sorry Azazel for threadjacking your thread.

I belong to the minority then in here

. I like Israel

Shalom!

HershOstropoler · November 1, 2003, 18:49

I like Israel too. If I hated Israel, I'd be an ardent supporter of Sharon.

Ted Striker · November 1, 2003, 19:26

don't worry Israel

as long as we got your back it's all good and is all that matters

eurocoms can whine all they want but they are insignificant

i think it's actually the EU Motto:

"E plebariums anestro"

"we whine because we're not important anymore"

Nubclear · November 1, 2003, 19:28

Sandman · November 1, 2003, 20:00

The respondents were shown a list of 15 countries and asked, for each country, if they thought they were a threat to world peace. There nothing to suggest that Israel was singled out as the greatest TTWP, rather, it was probably only rated as a TTWP because it's in the news a lot.

HershOstropoler · November 2, 2003, 04:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted Striker
as long as we got your back it's all good and is all that matters

VetLegion · November 2, 2003, 06:00

If Congo had TV coverage proportional to that of Israel, day would have to be couple hundred hours long just to air it all. Couple million people died in Congo in the last decade, yet hundreds of thousands of Congoans are not worth ten minutes on TV. **** that.

Pekka may be a good solution ...

Ted Striker · November 2, 2003, 06:57

good point

Az · November 2, 2003, 07:00

Quote:

Originally posted by VetLegion
If Congo had TV coverage proportional to that of Israel, day would have to be couple hundred hours long just to air it all. Couple million people died in Congo in the last decade, yet hundreds of thousands of Congoans are not worth ten minutes on TV. **** that.

Pekka may be a good solution ...

My POV exactly.

Nubclear · November 2, 2003, 07:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Azazel
Greatest danger to world peace? .

Searched on the article for any words containg "est" in them....Got three "question(s)" and two "Palestinian(s)".

Bad troll

Dis · November 2, 2003, 07:10

uhh, wouldn't terrorist be the obvious threat to world peace?

Nubclear · November 2, 2003, 07:11

No.

Pekka · November 2, 2003, 07:12

Terrorist is not country.

Nubclear · November 2, 2003, 07:15

HershOstropoler · November 2, 2003, 07:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar

Searched on the article for any words containg "est" in them....Got three "question(s)" and two "Palestinian(s)".

Bad troll

Well the article is misleading:

"Almost 60 percent of Europeans say that Israel is a larger threat to world peace than North Korea, Iran or Afghanistan"

Actually, 59 % said Israel is a threat to world peace, more than those who said it about NK etc. As the question was reported, it was not possible to rank countries, and you could name more than one country: "Tell me if in your opinion it presents or not a threat to peace in the world." What you can derive from that is that Israel is seen as more dangerous overall threat, with which I would not agree.

Of course the initial line will make it to the US media in another round of the "evil europe"-game that seems to sell so well besides the "stupid europe", "coward europe" and "weak europe".

Dis · November 2, 2003, 07:22

if we are talking countries, then the U.S. should be ahead of Israel. Because the U.S. have more influence, a much stronger military, and a crazier leader than Israel has. And because of that, when they make mistakes- they tend to be bigger mistakes.

I demand the U.S. be regarded as the biggest threat to world peace!

Az · November 2, 2003, 07:23

It's still a stupid ****ing opinion.

HershOstropoler · November 2, 2003, 07:26

I'm also surprised the US didn't make the nr 1 spot.

Az · November 2, 2003, 07:27

They probably didn't place it as an option.

Nubclear · November 2, 2003, 07:28

Not really.
I think what they were trying to say is "Is Israel a threat to world stability" and on that count, it is a resounding YES. Israel and it's socially backwards policies are definitely threats to world stability, which is why the Israeli state needs to be dismanteled.
Possibly reintegrated somewhere else.

Dis · November 2, 2003, 07:30

backwords policies?

what would you have them do? lay down to the terrorists?

HershOstropoler · November 2, 2003, 07:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Azazel

It's still a stupid ****ing opinion.

Well on the merit: Is Israel under Sharon a threat to world peace? I'd say yes, somewhat, indirectly - unfortunately a poll does not allow for further clarification.

Az · November 2, 2003, 07:39

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Israel and it's socially backwards policies are definitely threats to world stability,

Wow, I didn't know that our social policies ( which are more advanced that both the US of A, and the shithole that is currently mother Russia ), have so much impact on world opinion.

I guess the government should give in to the ongoing strike. I wonder what alternatives can we find to balance the budget of the country, except than restructuring and private services. I say tax the rich. Amir Peretz is a slimeball, though.

Az · November 2, 2003, 07:41

Quote:

Is Israel under Sharon a threat to world peace? I'd say yes,

As much, as, say, France. a little bit, Indirectly, etc. etc.

Spiffor · November 2, 2003, 07:47

The worst threat to world peace is the couple US-Iran or the couple US-North Korea. We basically have a hyperpower that wants to have his rules respected, and we have rebellious players who want to make their own rules. There would be no threat to world peace if both parties weren't included.

And Israel is clearly a BIG reasons for the tensions between the West and the Arab-Muslim world. But to say it is a thread to world peace by itself is uninformed. Israel is a threat to regional peace. Other actors are a threat to world peace, even though Israel can stir the **** they'll fight upon.

Spiffor · November 2, 2003, 07:48

Or, let's say "World Peace" is the Mac forum, and the US is Ming. Israel would have the role of Asher

HershOstropoler · November 2, 2003, 07:50

Quote:

Originally posted by Azazel

Quote:

Is Israel under Sharon a threat to world peace? I'd say yes,

As much, as, say, France. a little bit, Indirectly, etc. etc.

Is France holding an arab population under an apartheid style occupation regime? When did it last bomb Syria?

Israel is a touch more dangerous, especially under a government that loves the conflict.

Az · November 2, 2003, 07:53

What an interesting metaphore.

Quote:

And Israel is clearly a BIG reasons for the tensions between the West and the Arab-Muslim world.

Since most of the arab world is actually mad that we even exist, I think that what's the problem is arab macho culture making them "all or nothing at all" all the goddamn time. OMG you didn't have it your way one time!