Anybody (Americans) find this offensive? - Page 2

curtsibling · November 6, 2003, 06:28

Quote:

Originally posted by DarthVeda
Charlie Bronson may be American, but he's a corpse now.

Yup.

But old Chuck made plenty of corpses before he became one himself!

Blam!

The man was a legend!

Lft Marks · November 6, 2003, 17:39

that reminds me so much of a truly genius episode of south park about the war in iraq, and another brilliant quote, ahem, "the whole basis of the american ideal is that america can do what it likes whilst appearing not to want to do it, saying one thing and doing another"

atlas · November 6, 2003, 21:12

Kobayashi, I do not find the scenario offensive in the sense that I accept the idea that it is okay to have different views on political points.
However, I must say that your picture of America's scheming government strategists guiding Hollywood and business executives to "displace the ethnic and cultural distinctiveness" of other peoples, is thorougly tasteless and bitterly disgusting.

Darius871 · November 6, 2003, 22:49

Not offended (why no poll?)

:) Smiley · November 6, 2003, 23:20

Not only am I not offended but I find this hilarious. Hurry up and release a beta!

kobayashi · November 7, 2003, 12:22

Atlas,

think of it as a parody. The point is its so ludicrous that no one is expected to take it at face value, more like the opposite. You only do parodies on worthy subjects. DId you like Monthy Python and the Holy Grail or Johnny English? Anyway I take your point and I'll add a disclaimer at the start to say that even the inuendos are completely baseless.

Smiley,

the base game is actually up and running but I want to try the balance a bit first so it won't be a complete flop.

My favourite site for sounds, Star Trek in Sound and Vision seems to be permanently dead. Does anyone know where else can I find Ferenggi dialogue?

:) Smiley · November 7, 2003, 21:16

Will the USSR be in the game?

Oh, as for balance, isn't it supposed to be unbalanced?

kobayashi · November 7, 2003, 23:35

Quote:

Originally posted by

Smiley
Will the USSR be in the game?

There is a Easter Bloc which is AI

Oh, as for balance, isn't it supposed to be unbalanced?

Balance refers to whether the AI can adapt to the strange parameters.

Palaiologos · November 8, 2003, 08:04

Wasn't Charles Brosincky(later changed to Bronson) a lithuanian?

curtsibling · November 8, 2003, 10:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Palaiologos
Wasn't Charles Brosincky(later changed to Bronson) a lithuanian?

You're right.

Chuck was from Europe.

kobayashi · November 9, 2003, 22:57

My favourite Bronson movie is a lessor known one with jill ireland called From Noon Til Three followed by the Mechanic

the worst one is the one with the white bison.

kobayashi · November 10, 2003, 11:27

Quote:

Originally posted by

Smiley
Not only am I not offended but I find this hilarious. Hurry up and release a beta!

would smiley be interested in trying out the beta?

curtsibling · November 10, 2003, 11:34

Curt would!

POTUS · November 10, 2003, 22:08

I would be.

:) Smiley · November 11, 2003, 04:36

most certainly

kobayashi · November 12, 2003, 02:16

let me finalize the beta and I'll post it here this weekend.

So its Curt, Potus and Smiley then.

BTW,

currently I've chosen Rupert Murdoch as leader of the Unaligned Economies. I know that he's an American citizen now but he is surely more prominant than Kerry Packer. News Corp is still a major stock on the ASX so I think its OK, after all he only got citizenship to buy some regualted american assets.

Alan Bond is the Unaligned Hero Unit.

Any comments on either of this this?

kobayashi · November 13, 2003, 12:13

OK the beta is sort of ready. Download away and let me have your comments.

to anybody other the the three volunteers-
please wait for the release version, no point in spoiling the scenario.

(link removed)

curtsibling · November 13, 2003, 13:01

Cheers!
Downloading now, I'll give some comments soon!

:) Smiley · November 14, 2003, 05:46

DL'd , will test this weekend

lord of the mark · November 14, 2003, 17:55

"Meanwhile the heartland of
^^ U.S. doctrine known as the Ivy League goes into overdrive, with prophets such as
^^ Modigliani, Friedman, Markowitz and Sharpe spreading free-market ideology to
^^ every corner of the globe."

Err, since when did the University of Chicago enter the Ivy League? I mean really man, thats not much above putting the Jedi knights into a Star Trek scenario.

Not to be too snarky, but I suggest more study of American Culture (and not just Coke and Hollywood) before writing a scenario about it.

POTUS · November 14, 2003, 20:56

Hey, it's a good scenario. A few minor mistakes doesn't make this scenario all bad.

curtsibling · November 14, 2003, 22:02

It is rather fun, and Mr Koby knows his companies!

It has had much effort put into it (as we can expect from a seasoned pro like the author) and the idea is original.

I think the fact that we are playing corp-civs in the world of high-finance, should be taken in context.

Capitalism is aggressive in it's arena, and this saleman's world is represented well in the scenario.

I think the Americana aspect is well put together, and is not aimed at politics, but the cut and thrust of commerce.

I eagerly await the full version.

Bravo to Koby!

:) Smiley · November 14, 2003, 22:59

Haven't had a chance to play more than a couple turns yet, though graphics wise I have a couple improvements I would like to make, such as replacing the stacks of money with corporate logos. What do you say, Koyabashi?

Panda · November 15, 2003, 02:37

Some texts to update:
Golden Age
human territory violations
border patrols are "sovereign", not sovreign

1979 event states "Nixon is forced to play the China card", should be Carter.

So far, I quite like it

though the tech paradigm could be slowed down. I'll let you know when I've finished all the research.

Also, some tech tree re-jigging: You've got Env as "Desktop Pub(1984)" when you could link this to reducing boycott pressure.

Pollution is a real *****, so please pay very close attention to the tech associations with population pollution, like Pla. And maybe exploit Mag as a demographic GDP booster. http://sleague.apolyton.net/Guides/sldt_advances.shtml

POTUS · November 15, 2003, 03:05

I would put future tech at the end, so I don't get Future Technology 53* from the Goody Huts.

*Note, this is a major exageration. It was really Future Technology 23.

kobayashi · November 15, 2003, 07:08

Quote:

Originally posted by

Smiley
replacing the stacks of money with corporate logos. What do you say, Koyabashi?

can you elaborate? I don't recall having stacks of money.

kobayashi · November 15, 2003, 07:13

Quote:

Originally posted by Panda
Some texts to update:
Golden Age
human territory violations
border patrols are "sovereign", not sovreign

NOTED

1979 event states "Nixon is forced to play the China card", should be Carter.

BUT SPOCK SAID 'ONLY NIXON COULD GO TO CHINA'. NOTED.

So far, I quite like it

though the tech paradigm could be slowed down. I'll let you know when I've finished all the research.

PART OF THIS IS DUE TO THE HUGE EMPIRE SIZE vs SMALL NUMBER OF TECHS YOU HAVE AT THE START. LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH IT SLOWS DOWN AS YOU APPROACH MID GAME AND I"LL TRY SOME ADJUSTMENT.

Also, some tech tree re-jigging: You've got Env as "Desktop Pub(1984)" when you could link this to reducing boycott pressure.

Pollution is a real *****, so please pay very close attention to the tech associations with population pollution, like Pla. And maybe exploit Mag as a demographic GDP booster.

Thanks for the insight. I've amended the golden age (and global warming) message. Plastics has been shifted into the main tree with a warning event message about boycotts. I may or may not remove enviromentalism depending on how bad the boycotts situation becomes.

kobayashi · November 15, 2003, 07:17

Quote:

Originally posted by POTUS
I would put future tech at the end, so I don't get Future Technology 53* from the Goody Huts.

*Note, this is a major exageration. It was really Future Technology 23.

THAT WAS KIND OF THE IDEA SINCE YOU HAVE A FULL EMPIRE TO START OFF WITH. IF NOT YOU MIGHT COLLECT A DOZEN TECHS OR SO IN A MONTH OR TWO. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THAT THE EASTERN BLOC ARE COMPLETLEY CUT OFF FORM THE MAIN TREE AT FIRST SO THIS MAKES SURE THEIR AI CAN REACH FUTURE TECH. LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHIFT IT BACK SLIGHTLY.

:) Smiley · November 15, 2003, 14:13

Are those supposed to be office buildings in the city screen? I thought they looked like piles of currency.

kobayashi · November 16, 2003, 10:14

ah...yes they are buildings. Not really good artwork but it'll have to do until I do a post release version.