12 Italians Dead in Iraq!

laurentius · November 12, 2003, 08:07

9 Italian Carabinieri and 3 soldiers have been killed in Nasiriya, Iraq

axi · November 12, 2003, 08:10

There were Iraqi victims too: 8 dead and 12 wounded. The place was the Headquarters of the Italian occupation force, which has about 2300 men.

Berlusconi's in deep **** now...

laurentius · November 12, 2003, 08:11

I hope Berlusconi goes down because of this, but naturally it wont happen...

Bereta_Eder · November 12, 2003, 08:45

There will be a lot of protest in Italy because of this.

Sikander · November 12, 2003, 08:48

My condolences to the families, friends and countrymen of these soldiers.

Pandemoniak · November 12, 2003, 08:51

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Originally posted by laurentius
I hope Berlusconi goes down because of this, but naturally it wont happen...

Does it mean Chirac will be reelected ? Uh No !

Kropotkin · November 12, 2003, 08:53

Haven't anyone told the iraqis that italians only count as half an american? This is not cost effective at all.

Pandemoniak · November 12, 2003, 08:55

1 italian is still worth four or five brits. Friendly fires, friendly fires...

Tripledoc · November 12, 2003, 08:55

Why don't they make the HQs secret?

Pandemoniak · November 12, 2003, 08:58

Hey ! Where would the journalists come to film the propaganda then ??

Tripledoc · November 12, 2003, 09:02

The coalition soldiers should throw of their uniforms, put on civilian clothes and blend in with the population.

Pandemoniak · November 12, 2003, 09:04

It would still be easy to see the difference between a black south carolina soldier disguised and an old irak merchant.
It has to be the moustache or something...

Space05us · November 12, 2003, 09:04

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The coalition soldiers should throw of their uniforms, put on civilian clothes and blend in with the population

and hope no one notices they have light skin?

axi · November 12, 2003, 09:12

Thankfully this means that we (Greece) will never ever send troops to Iraq.

Perhaps this will speed up the return of the contingent we have in Afghanistan.

NO more blood for THEIR interests!

Tripledoc · November 12, 2003, 09:12

CIA are masters of disguise. Seriosly. It would not be that hard to blend in with them if you had a tan and a fake mustache.

Also form small independent neutralization squads of combined coalition and iraqi collaborators. Use civilian vehicles. Use sophisticted sattelite communication for targeting in hit and run attacks. Play the game.

Pandemoniak · November 12, 2003, 09:18

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Originally posted by Tripledoc
CIA are masters of disguise. Seriosly. It would not be that hard to blend in with them if you had a tan and a fake mustache.

They still have to learn arabic, of course...

laurentius · November 12, 2003, 09:19

Oh bodycount is fourteen now (14). This is very sad, italians are good people, exept for mr. GWBofEU
If I'd pray I'd pray for the italians now, but I'm sure this will be remembered in the Missa italiana here...

Tripledoc · November 12, 2003, 09:23

Take a ten year perspective on it. Like in Chechnya. Plenty of time to learn people to speak arabic.

Also they will have translators. One Iraqi collaborator will be the 'faux' commander, while the real one stays in the background.

Bereta_Eder · November 12, 2003, 09:28

It's a matter of honour, see. If they let the aglomaericans just walz in the place it would mean that they submit. Not to mention that that would open the appettite for more of the same from the agloamericans. That's why they keep busting balls down there. It has to be taught a lesson to the US/uk that you won't get out of here without a bloodied nose.
Honour, pride, resistance, that's how they see it.
I feel bad for the iraqi people proper. Victimized by both sides, each with its own agenda

Tripledoc · November 12, 2003, 09:34

The Iraqi fighters are fighting for national freedom. Bush, Blair and Berlusconi are fighting for their honor now. The tables have been turned. The narrative has changed.

axi · November 12, 2003, 09:44

Why do you all have the EU flag below your name? Does it make you proud or something?

Tripledoc · November 12, 2003, 09:50

I'm from Europe. That is all.

MOBIUS · November 12, 2003, 10:13

Guess they'll be leaving soon as well...

MichaeltheGreat · November 12, 2003, 11:14

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Originally posted by Tripledoc
The Iraqi fighters are fighting for national freedom. Bush, Blair and Berlusconi are fighting for their honor now. The tables have been turned. The narrative has changed.

(a) Since when is the return of a Baathist dictatorship, or the institution of an Islamic state "freedom?" There hasn't been any evidence, not any, that any of these acts have been carried out or planned by individuals fighting for anyone's "freedom."

(b) It's charming to see in this thread so much emphasis on the hoped-for political consequences regarding Berlusconi, and so little about the dead and their families.

Kropotkin · November 12, 2003, 11:29

Empaty is hypocritical. One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is statistics.

Drake Tungsten · November 12, 2003, 11:31

I guess 12 deaths is a trolling opportunity...

laurentius · November 12, 2003, 12:01

??? Whats up Drake?

Sprayber · November 12, 2003, 12:04

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Originally posted by axi
Thankfully this means that we (Greece) will never ever send troops to Iraq.

Perhaps this will speed up the return of the contingent we have in Afghanistan.

NO more blood for THEIR interests!

I seriously hope you are right. I dont want any Greeks there.

Sprayber · November 12, 2003, 12:05

It's kind of funny. When Americans die over there, we are pissed that our countrymen are dead. When Italians die, you hope it brings down the goverment. Isnt that kind of odd?

Cruddy · November 12, 2003, 12:06

That will teach them to import pizza to a Muslim country.

Seriously though, I'm not happy about it. But when you put on a uniform and pick up a gun, some people will shoot at you.

The only solution is for all occupation troops in Iraq to go naked everywhere.