Create army with Leader

b_ramsdell · November 17, 2003, 11:34

Does anyone know how to create an army with the leader? I can't find the command to use to get it to create an army.

Stuie · November 17, 2003, 11:42

You need to be in a city, then hit the "B" key.

b_ramsdell · November 17, 2003, 11:51

Thanks

vmxa1 · November 17, 2003, 14:23

Note you have to have 4 cities to create an army, so if you do not see the build army option, that could be the problem. If you have an army already you will need more cities.

Inverse Icarus · November 17, 2003, 17:04

also, if you're playing a conquest, you should note kings/queens are NOT the same as leaders.

Dis · November 17, 2003, 17:23

do you have to have barracks in the city? that might be it

vmxa1 · November 17, 2003, 19:49

No, you need a barracks to upgrade troops and to build civil defense.

RobC · November 17, 2003, 20:39

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Originally posted by vmxa1
Note you have to have 4 cities to create an army, so if you do not see the build army option, that could be the problem. If you have an army already you will need more cities.

Actually, I just discovered you can break the max #armies = # cities/4 rule by 1 if you have already begun building an army in a city (that has the mil academy small wonder) and then use a MGL to create an army that takes you to your supposed max number. Not a really big deal, but I thought I'd mention it.

b_ramsdell · November 17, 2003, 20:53

It won't let me build an army. The option is not there.

Inverse Icarus · November 17, 2003, 21:00

are you playing a conquest?

b_ramsdell · November 17, 2003, 21:01

Yes I am playing a conquest. The Mesapotamia one.

Inverse Icarus · November 17, 2003, 21:05

could you post a screenshot by any chance?

b_ramsdell · November 17, 2003, 21:17

Here is the picture.

Dominae · November 17, 2003, 21:19

That is an Army!

Now, just Load units onto it and go a-conquerin'!

Dominae

b_ramsdell · November 17, 2003, 21:20

What do you mean? It doesn't actually create more units. So I load them onto it and more create or what.

Dominae · November 17, 2003, 21:22

You "Load" units onto an Army like you would a naval transport. However, you cannot remove them afterward.

So, simply place a couple of military units on the same tile as your Army, and you'll see the Load button appear. Add the number and type of units that you like.

Think of the empty Army (the one you're currently seeing) as a "General" who is waiting for troops to command.

Dominae

b_ramsdell · November 17, 2003, 21:29

Is there only certain units that will go onto it because the chariots will not go onto it?

Dominae · November 18, 2003, 01:25

No, you should be able to put any military unit into your Army.

By the way, an Army has a base capacity of three units. Maybe that's the problem you're running into.

Dominae

Tassadar500 · November 18, 2003, 01:52

So just remember 3 units in an army. Otherwise as Dominae said you can put what ever units you want in an army however only ones with attack and defense.

vmxa1 · November 18, 2003, 03:40

I have not looked at any of the scenarios, but you may be precluded from making armies in it or some other requirement is added. I don;t knwo if they can do that sort of thing, but I know they have lots of special condiions in some of them.

Tiberius · November 18, 2003, 05:21

You can only load 3 units in an army (4 after you build the Pentagon small wonder). Be careful what you load into it, because you can't unload it later!

You can't load artillery-type units in armies (catapults, trebuchets, cannons).

You also can't create naval or air armies. Only land-based armies.

b_ramsdell · November 18, 2003, 06:55

Its not allowing me to add any units onto the army.

Tiberius · November 18, 2003, 07:24

Are you sure the army is "empty" ? Maybe you already loaded it to its max. capacity.

Do you have units on the same tile with the army, inside a city? Do they have movement points? If so, select a unit and click on the "LOAD" button or press L. The unit will load into the army. Repeat two more times with the other units. Now select your army and move it. You will see one general and 3 units moving together and the army will have ~ 12 hitpoints (more or less, depending on whether you fill it with regular, veteran or elit units). The attack and defence values of the units don't add up. Just the hitpoints.

(You will receive though an attack bonus for each unit in the army, but that's only in Conquests.)

b_ramsdell · November 18, 2003, 09:15

The only option I get is to Pillage. No other options for doing anything. There are no other units in the army.

Dominae · November 18, 2003, 11:02

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Originally posted by b_ramsdell
The only option I get is to Pillage. No other options for doing anything. There are no other units in the army.

You need to select other units in order to load them onto the Army. Put another military unit (a Spearmen are whatever) on the same tile as the Army. Make sure it still has movement points available. Then press the 'L' key. That should load it into the Army.

If this does not work, post a savegame.

I've never heard of any restrictions on Armies in the Mesopotamia scenario.

Dominae

Tiberius · November 18, 2003, 11:05

The Pillage command is not available inside cities. You are not in a city. Move your army and your units in a city and try again.

Traelin · November 18, 2003, 12:16

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Originally posted by RobC

Actually, I just discovered you can break the max #armies = # cities/4 rule by 1 if you have already begun building an army in a city (that has the mil academy small wonder) and then use a MGL to create an army that takes you to your supposed max number. Not a really big deal, but I thought I'd mention it.

Yep I've been doing that forever.

Kinda nice.

The same thing can happen if you capture a city that makes your total # of cities divisible by 4, set your Mil. academy city's build orders to "Army", and you give the city away/it gets destroyed/you lose the city in some way.

b_ramsdell · November 19, 2003, 10:22

Ok, it finally worked in the city. I don't know what was going on. I got the leader early in the game so maybe you have to discover something first, I don't know. But it works now.