November 17, 2003, 21:36
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David and Goliath
Football - European Cup Playoffs
On Saturday Wales went to the frigid lion's den of Moscow to play Russia away...
Russia had scored 15 goals at home in the last 4 games and apparently fully expected to steamroller the Welsh into submission.
When things weren't going according to plan, this great footballing nation with 100 times the population of Wales resorted to a string of increasing and ever more desperate dirty tricks and theatrics in an underhand and sordid attempt to swing the game in their favour including a particularly horrendous tackle against Ryan Giggs, numerous Oscar contenders for most farcical fouled player of the year and one of the worst displays of gamesmanship I have witnessed in a long time...
Even the Russian fans were underhand by trying to disrupt the Welsh players by throwing missiles and flares at them - the referee stopped play with Wales in possession because a flare had come onto the pitch, but at the drop-ball restart Russia refused to concede possession to the visitors!
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"In those circumstances you always give possession back to the opposition," said Wales midfielder Robbie Savage. "If the Russians had scored from there we would have been absolutely furious, it was grossly unfair.
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This is one of those Cardinal unwritten rules of the sport... 
Shame on Russian football! 
Still, Wales have kept their cool and did not stoop to the same dirty tricks - as Robbie Savage again says for the return leg:
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"Let's not only look to win, let's look to win playing fairly, squarely and the right way."
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The return leg will be played here in Cardiff this Wednesday at a capacity Millennium stadium and is Wales' most important game for 10 years and although we drew against Russia away, I still have to say that in my view the Russians are still extremely dangerous - especially with the away goal rule. My heart says 'Wales Win' - my head says 'no comment!'...
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0600soccer/0650wales/ Edit link (again!)...
No prizes for guessing what I'll be doing from 19:00 GMT! 
After all, David is Wales' patron saint... 
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November 17, 2003, 21:40
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November 17, 2003, 21:44
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Even if they can't win fairly? 
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November 17, 2003, 21:48
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Even then
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November 17, 2003, 21:57
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Just as well you've got the smiley there, otherwise I'd believe you condoned cheating...
Imagine having to cheat just to beat such a small opponent. 
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November 17, 2003, 21:59
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Originally posted by MOBIUS
Just as well you've got the smiley there, otherwise I'd believe you condoned cheating...
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Bah!
Well in all seriousness, Russia should have simply lost gracefully. 
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November 18, 2003, 03:15
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Re: David and Goliath
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Originally posted by MOBIUS
Football - European Cup Playoffs
On Saturday Wales went to the frigid lion's den of Moscow to play Russia away...
Russia had scored 15 goals at home in the last 4 games and apparently fully expected to steamroller the Welsh into submission.
When things weren't going according to plan, this great footballing nation with 100 times the population of Wales...
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 Oh look, we are great footballing nation now...
Our football glory died with the Soviet Union. Last time when we achieved something great, it was in 1989 when our football team won Olympic games.
We are great hockey nation, not football. Most of the year, it's too cold to play football here.
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Even the Russian fans were underhand by trying to disrupt the Welsh players by throwing missiles and flares at them - the referee stopped play with Wales in possession because a flare had come onto the pitch, but at the drop-ball restart Russia refused to concede possession to the visitors!
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Yeah, sure and for example British football fans were always a standart of fan's behavior.
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Shame on Russian football!
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Shame on Welsh football!
Another elbow strike and next time your football team will meet our boxing team. 
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The return leg will be played here in Cardiff this Wednesday at a capacity Millennium stadium and is Wales' most important game for 10 years and although we drew against Russia away, I still have to say that in my view the Russians are still extremely dangerous -...
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Sure Beware, Russians are coming.
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My heart says 'Wales Win' - my head says 'no comment!'...
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Honestly, my head says "Russia win" - my heart says "no comment!"
p.s. I didn't see the game, unfortunately (you know, I was pretty busy getting married )
I hope will kick your pity as$es soon .
Russia!!!Russia!!!Russia!!!
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November 18, 2003, 03:25
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Serb: You need an avatar.
Might I suggest one thats anti-american (or anti-welsh? )
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November 18, 2003, 04:08
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I hope Giggs and Co. beat those dirty Slavs into oblivion.
Cymru! Cymru! Cymru!
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November 18, 2003, 04:33
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I hope Giggs and Co. beat those dirty Slavs into oblivion.
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We will bury you. 
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Cymru! Cymru! Cymru!
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hui to tam! hui to tam! hui to tam!
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November 18, 2003, 04:36
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Serb: You need an avatar.
Might I suggest one thats anti-american (or anti-welsh? )
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Sure I need, but I don't deserved it, yet. My account is below 500 needed to gain an avatar.
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November 18, 2003, 04:40
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Kruschev told the Yanks that as well and we all know how that turned out.
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November 18, 2003, 04:49
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True. Russia isn't burying the US.
Instead, everyone else decided to help out 
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November 18, 2003, 04:50
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Kruschev told the Yanks that as well and we all know how that turned out.
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We didn't bury them 
Strange... oh wait a minute...Yanks can't play football, they are players of minor league.
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November 18, 2003, 05:17
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Strange... oh wait a minute...Yanks can't play football, they are players of minor league.
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They did a hell of a lot better at the World Cup than the Russians.
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November 18, 2003, 05:23
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Can't say the same for the international arena, eh?
In fact....don't the Japanese not quite like the US right now?
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November 18, 2003, 05:24
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November 18, 2003, 05:24
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In fact....don't the Japanese not quite like the US right now?
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No. We love America.
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November 18, 2003, 05:26
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Yep. Japan loves the US.
So does South Korea And China And even Russia! Everyone loves the US, right?
When it comes to the only game that matters (politics), the US is losing VERY badly
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November 18, 2003, 05:40
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You think politics is the only game that matters? I'd go with power myself, although it is certainly not the only game that matters, merely the most important one.
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November 18, 2003, 05:45
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Power comes through politics. And your right, not "only", but I wouldn't say "merely" either.
As the world continues to modernize, the importance for a sucessful political game becomes even more important. More and more things begin to integrate into it....
Which is sad, but it is reality
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November 18, 2003, 05:58
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Bah! And there goes my sucessful troll, poisoned by only a bit of objectivity! 
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November 18, 2003, 08:05
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Gotcha...
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November 18, 2003, 10:37
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I had my Russia shirt on 
Mainly just to annoy my Welsh housemate
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November 21, 2003, 02:00
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Hey, Drake, Mobius, my condolences guys. Even your dirty tricks (such as throwing ball to face of one of our players. I would disqualify for such behavior ) couldn't save you from defeat.
David sucks, Goliath forever!!!
Yahooo...we gonna ride to Portugal!!!  
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