Thirty Years War - a history. - Page 2

Marko · January 20, 2001, 01:37

I tried change e-mail address in my profile but I was said that yahoo address is banned...
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Shaka Naldur · January 20, 2001, 16:59

what´s going on guys?
no post in almost a day

January 20, 2001, 17:29

I think we're stalled on marko...

Marko · January 20, 2001, 18:12

Imperials, June 1618:

Ferdinand II was crowned as the Emperor of Holy Roman Empire in Wien. In his speech he promised to dedicate his reign to unification of Germany and reestablishing catholic faith all over Europe with help of our allies Spanish and Polish-Lithuanian kingdoms.

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Stefan Härtel · January 20, 2001, 19:26

Royal Announcement from Kopenhavn:

A courier has been sent to Paris this night and delivered the file in nightly storms.

We, the King of Denmark, are proud to announce that the cities of Hamburg, Bremen and Lübeck have been added to our posessions. We wish our fellow participators best of luck.

Allard HS · January 21, 2001, 17:24

Yeah, France has recieved the file.

However, it's a HOT file. Is it not better to start over and start as a NET file (Internet game)? That works easier and better, and you don't get to see other players' turns.

Shaka Naldur · January 21, 2001, 17:36

quote:

However, it's a HOT file. Is it not better to start over and start as a NET file (Internet game)? That works easier and better, and you don't get to see other players' turns.

what´s the difference??

well, It´s not a problem for me

Jay Bee · January 21, 2001, 18:06

Jay I the Bee, supreme ruler of Protestantland and soon of Western Europe (everything for me, everything) fully concurs with King Allardé of the soon-to-be French-conquered lands.

It would be MUUUUUUCH better to start over. My humble opinion.

Allard HS · January 21, 2001, 19:17

The soon-to-be-conquered French do not like the Protestants. Actually, I think it's about time to withdraw the Édit de Nantes. So then we can finally once again persecute all those annoying Huguenots.

quote:

what´s the difference??
well, It´s not a problem for me

It's much more user-friendly. Also much more security-friendly.
I don't think Hotseat is really built for PBEM. I think Internet play is better for it.

Kull · January 21, 2001, 20:37

HOT files vs. NET files! Wooowoo! This is almost as much fun as Protestant vs. Catholic! You guys definitely have the spirit......

Marko · January 22, 2001, 00:58

I play WW2 and WW1 PBEM games with .net files and was also a bit surprised to get 30YW as .hot file. But there doesn't seem to be any great difference between these two formats.

I have other matter also to discuss.

Do we allow city and unit bribing?

I don't like it because it changes the whole atmosphere of the scenario. In order to conquer heavily fortified city you need only to build an ambassador and bribe it cheaply. No need of big armies at all.

techumseh · January 22, 2001, 04:15

Jeeze you guys! This game is like counting ballots in Florida.

Once we have all played a turn and entered a password, no one will see anything of another players turn. So what is to be gained by starting over?

I don't support Marko's rule change. It's too late. Different diplomatic units are available to different civs, some can bribe cities and some can't. So such a rule could upset play balance. Besides, the cost of diplomatic units is so high, and the financial health of most civs so shakey, that it's not a viable strategy for rapid conquest.

If, however, some of you Al Gores' out there insist on a restart, I will make a case for my "made for multiplayer" version.

Allard HS · January 22, 2001, 06:30

I don't think a recount will be necessary.

The point is, a HOT file is exactly the same as a NET file. Just renaming the one to the other will do the trick. So anybody can use the way they like it best. Anybody can rename it to either .HOT or .NET according to their preference. It makes absolutely no difference, as far as I can foresee.

Anyway, the French have gloriously captured the city of Montpellier. No serious resistance was offered to our mighty guns.
French economy has undergone a drastic change, and though yet unachieved, a surplus may very well be possible within a few years.
To obtain this surplus, all plans for our new little residence in Versailles have been cancelled. Maybe something nice for our successor.

Jay Bee · January 22, 2001, 07:01

quote:

Originally posted by techumseh on 01-22-2001 03:15 AM
Jeeze you guys! This game is like counting ballots in Florida.

LOL. This has been one of the best observations ever made on these forums. Still laughing.

Shaka Naldur · January 22, 2001, 15:06

okay,

i´m the one who started the game with the .hot but I didn´t know the difference
but does it make such a big difference??

do we have to restart??

by the way Allard, I haven´t received the file
did you send it to miguelsana@mixmail.com??

Jay Bee · January 22, 2001, 18:17

quote:

Originally posted by Shaka Naldur on 01-22-2001 02:06 PM
do we have to restart??

Noooo please, keep it rolling as is!

Allard HS · January 22, 2001, 18:52

Yeah, keep on rolling.

Even within the "load game" (in the "Internet Game" menu), you can select HOT files instead of NET files and all will work fine, so you don't even have to rename the files.

So, no no it makes absolutely no difference.

quote:

by the way Allard, I haven´t received the file
did you send it to miguelsana@mixmail.com??

I already replied by email, but I sent it to MJ, as as far as I know (3 times "as" in 4 words

) it's his turn after me.

techumseh · January 22, 2001, 19:18

No, Poland follows Sweden. When I posted who's who, I didn't get the order correct. I think this is the right sequence:

Spain (Shaka)
Sweden (techumseh)
Poland (Magyar Crusader)
Protestants (JayBee)
Imperialists (Marko)
Denmark (Stefan)
France (Allard)

So it should go to Spain next.

It's Turn TWO!

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Allard HS · January 22, 2001, 20:30

Damn

Sorry then for all the delay.
My courrier to Spain has just left France..

January 22, 2001, 21:42

Woah, and to think I was about to play my turn sent from Allard... I thing I checked this thread first.

Go Poland!

techumseh · January 22, 2001, 21:53

No. Go through Poland!

January 22, 2001, 22:36

We are prepared to fight as hard as we did against the Nazis! That's right, don't mess with Poland!

Stefan Härtel · January 23, 2001, 08:41

That's right - Mess with the Empire!

Jay Bee · January 23, 2001, 08:43

quote:

Originally posted by techumseh on 01-22-2001 06:18 PM
It's Turn TWO!

Can't believe it!

Shaka Naldur · January 23, 2001, 14:45

ok,

I have the file, I´ll play the .net one and send because I see that you guys prefer that one

I´ll send it to Tecumseh asap

tecumseh, for the fourth time

what is the difference between your multiplayer version and the original file?? (just for curiosity i want to play the game as we were doing it)

techumseh · January 23, 2001, 20:19

Well, as I've said before, the main changes were to improve the English in the events file and to delete the events which prevented negotiations.

Since this game has begun, I've been making some other changes. First, I'm starting with RobRoy's game file, which stops the starvation of barbarian cities. Then I changed the road movement to 1/4 and substantially increased ship movement. I changed the movement of all cavalry to 2. I'm considering lowering the construction costs of both units and improvements, or increasing the shields in certain terrain types. Some events may be reworked as well.

Shaka Naldur · January 24, 2001, 16:45

Allard,
when I try to open the net or the hot file they ask me for your password, and not for mine

by the way,
I load the game normally and I can play as everybody except for france, they don´t ask me for any other password

Shaka Naldur · January 24, 2001, 16:46

Allard,
when I try to open the net or the hot file they ask me for your password, and not for mine

by the way,
I load the game normally and I can play as everybody except for france, they don´t ask me for any other password

Shaka Naldur · January 24, 2001, 17:09

Allard,
when I try to open the net or the hot file they ask me for your password, and not for mine

by the way,
I load the game normally and I can play as everybody except for france, they don´t ask me for any other password

Allard HS · January 24, 2001, 20:09

Wow! A triple post!

How the hell did that happen? Maybe a bad side-effect of renaming the saved game to NET.

You know what? I'll take the original file and play on as HOT, without all the NET stuff, just as if nothing happened, ok?