November 26, 2003, 14:50
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Deity
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
When you combine the Tory and Alliance votes in the last election, we work out to be about 10 seats short of the Liberals. I can look for a source if you want, but this is just off the top of my head
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Uhhh...this analysis is ridiculous. It completely ignores the fact that there are soft PCers in the East who are less uncomfortable with the Libs or the (god forbid) NDP than they are with the Party of Preston....
You do know that anything connected with the Alliance is considered a joke east of Kenora, right?
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November 26, 2003, 17:49
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Emperor
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Ummm...by "all over" do you mean from BC to Man.? Because you still have a problem in that that region of the country onlu contains 30% of its population.
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Many people did vote Alliance in Ontario last election, but not enough to take the seats from the liberals.
So yes, people from the majority of the provinces vote Alliance.
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It completely ignores the fact that there are soft PCers in the East who are less uncomfortable with the Libs or the (god forbid) NDP than they are with the Party of Preston....
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Not that many PC seats in the East. Suppose we subtract 5 seats from the total, now we sit at 20 seats needing to tie the Liberals, assuming that every seat that is Tory chooses Liberal over NDP. Big difference!
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I haven't seen any poll numbers since they posted in 4th place.
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Moot. You have a merger of the conservatives and the alliance party.
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November 26, 2003, 17:52
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I was not aware that Canada was subject to US Congressional legislation .
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November 26, 2003, 19:48
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Warlord
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Originally posted by notyoueither
I'm fearing for the perception of the Tories in the East. I am thinking that many would turn to the NDP or not vote at all rather than vote for something that Joe Clark is disowning.
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I completely agree with this.
If the "Conservative" Party of Canada turns out to be overly Alliance-ish, I think we may actually be worse off than we were before. This is simply because you'll be alienating alot of (A) Red Tories and (B) swing voters, the people who aren't die-hard Liberals and will just vote for Martin because "things are pretty good, and he's not some Western extremist".
I'm sad to say it, but I think if the Conservative Party wants to really challenge the Libs, they'll have to get a little bit closer to the ideology of their enemy. They have to focus more on the corruption of the Liberals, and less on the real ideological differences. Don't scare the Easterners with talk of threatening health care, transfer payments, or what have you.
Once you have a majority government in Canada, you can basically do whatever you want, anyway.
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November 26, 2003, 21:37
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Chieftain
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Originally posted by cinch
I completely agree with this.
If the "Conservative" Party of Canada turns out to be overly Alliance-ish, I think we may actually be worse off than we were before. This is simply because you'll be alienating alot of (A) Red Tories and (B) swing voters, the people who aren't die-hard Liberals and will just vote for Martin because "things are pretty good, and he's not some Western extremist".
I'm sad to say it, but I think if the Conservative Party wants to really challenge the Libs, they'll have to get a little bit closer to the ideology of their enemy. They have to focus more on the corruption of the Liberals, and less on the real ideological differences. Don't scare the Easterners with talk of threatening health care, transfer payments, or what have you.
Once you have a majority government in Canada, you can basically do whatever you want, anyway.
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Do whatever you want, just get Dalton Mcfvckface out of Ontario, along with his 5.6bn dollar debt BS. I can see the lies just ready to burst out of that big bulge on his neck. What a geek. He's already broken three campaign promises.
Bring Ernie back.
Ernie! Ernie! Ernie!
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