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Russia pulls out of Kioto - What is the future of the Protocol?
 I accuse partly USA for this. I mean are the Russia and US irresponsible or what?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3256604.stm
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December 2, 2003, 09:37
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It's dead. And it's spelled Kyoto.
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December 2, 2003, 09:41
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Re: Russia pulls out of Kioto - What is the future of the Protocol?
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I accuse partly USA for this. I mean are the Russia and US irresponsible or what?
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Nope, just dirty. 
Another treaty bites the dust.
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December 2, 2003, 09:49
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I take this Kyoto stuff as proof that the human species is no more capable of controlling its effect on the environment then a bunch rabbits, America representing all of our basest instincts enshrined in a superpower...
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December 2, 2003, 09:50
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Death to treaties!
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December 2, 2003, 09:50
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Originally posted by problem_child
I take this Kyoto stuff as proof that the human species is no more capable of controlling its effect on the environment then a bunch rabbits, America representing all of our basest instincts enshrined in a superpower... it's obvious what their position would be.
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Yeah. On top. ****ing the rest of you *****es like there ain't no tomorrow.
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December 2, 2003, 09:53
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
It's dead. And it's spelled Kyoto.
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Yes and it's dead because these two big ones are morally corrupt and think they can continue their evil ways.
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"The Kyoto protocol places significant limitations on the economic growth of Russia."
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How short sighted
Drake: Kyoto, in english yes. I hope you know what we are talking about though.
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December 2, 2003, 09:57
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well who trusts them anyway??? (look at karelia *wink*).
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December 2, 2003, 10:42
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Re: Russia pulls out of Kioto - What is the future of the Protocol?
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I accuse partly USA for this.
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I wasn't aware that Bush was in charge of Russia too. 
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December 2, 2003, 11:09
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Just more proof that it was a flawed treaty.
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December 2, 2003, 11:30
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because these two big ones are morally corrupt and think they can continue their evil ways
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I didn't know they had Taliban in Finland? 
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December 2, 2003, 11:36
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DanS, please, if you want to refer our controlling parties, it's Talipaani in Finnish. Thanks.
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December 2, 2003, 11:41
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Just a question. Do other countries have regularly scheduled mandatory car emission tests like the US? Where if the car fails you must have it fixed or face a license suspension. Or is this just a US thing.
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December 2, 2003, 11:42
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Why would Russia support a treaty that doesn't help it in anyway? I am surprised it signed it in the first place.
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December 2, 2003, 11:44
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Why would Russia support a treaty that doesn't help it in anyway? I am surprised it signed it in the first place.
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For the feel good reasons the EU did I imagine?
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December 2, 2003, 11:45
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Originally posted by rah
Just a question. Do other countries have regularly scheduled mandatory car emission tests like the US? Where if the car fails you must have it fixed or face a license suspension. Or is this just a US thing.
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I'm sure you know that not all states have them.
In answer to your question.
Sweden does
I'll bet the other nordic countries and Germany do (99% sure)
I dont recall the vehicle inspections in Canada doing an emission test but the tests varied from province to province anyway.
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December 2, 2003, 11:47
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Just a question. Do other countries have regularly scheduled mandatory car emission tests like the US? Where if the car fails you must have it fixed or face a license suspension. Or is this just a US thing.
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Rah, my impression from our European friends is that the governments just prefer to tax the hell out of cars and gasoline so they can force people to pay for public transportation. Given this contempt for their citizenry, I'm sure that they have very stringent emission standards that, if you don't meet them, allows for even more money to flow in the coffers.
Yeah, I'm in a pissy mood today. So sue me.
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For the feel good reasons the EU did I imagine?
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Well, EU has a lot to lose if global warming hits the fan. Russia has more pressing considerations.
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Yes we have. Every year. At least here in Finland we do.
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I'm sure you know that not all states have them.
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I figured there were a few states that didn't. There's always a few states for everything.
In Illinois it is quite strict and they take it seriously. Maybe as strict as California 
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Tennessee doesn't, for the record.
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Not to mention our 'free public transportation' is maybe the most expensive I've ever seen travelling the world.. oh well.. but that's just lies! LIES I TELL YOU! Everything here is so good.. beer is cheap and service is good 
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I figured there were a few states that didn't.
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Mississippi doesn't.
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Hmmm Tennesse and Mississippi, I'm not surprised 
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Hey, I just moved here! I'm not a native!  
(born and bred in Chicago)
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So as far as emissions go, I can trust you my American friends, that in Europe, or at least in most parts, or at least in northern parts we are very uptight and anal about it. I mean, next thing I know I have to file a report if I fart outdoors and pay fines for destroying the ozone crap. I hate it anyway, I wish we'd kill the big O so we could just stop talking about it.
We should just attack the border control anyway, I want my cars in regular prices, not in northern european prices where you are punished for owning a car. And again punished if you drive it. Because that makes you a polluter and a rich mofo anyway. I say to every car owner.. let's take these hypocrite commies back to where they belong (6 feet under) and rise victorious to our NEW and GLORIOUS future wher WE decide what we can do with our money and cars. What's the point of working anyway, if I can't buy cars with it. It's not supposed to be treated as luxury, it's just a freaking car! KILL THE TRAITORS!
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Hey, I just moved here! I'm not a native!
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No insult intended. There are a few real nice areas in Tennesse. There're a few nice areas in Mississippi too, it's just that they're harder to find.
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December 2, 2003, 12:16
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I mean, next thing I know I have to file a report if I fart outdoors and pay fines for destroying the ozone crap.
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I was under the impression that New Zealand was the only one doing that.
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December 2, 2003, 12:17
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Memphis, where Fedex's HQ lies, is a shitty town.
Back on topic, I think Russians would rather enjoy some global warmings.
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Memphis is a shitty town. Fortunately I'm over 350 miles away, so we don't catch the smell all too often.
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