December 9, 2003, 00:19
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what's wrong with ****? it's just a word... look... **** ****ity **** ****...
diplomat: I'm disappointed you listen to that fat windbag
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December 9, 2003, 01:27
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Dean's is democratic and grass-roots. Its going to change things; hell, it's already changing things.
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Because McGovern's democratic and grass-roots campaign changed things, because McCain's changed things, what a joke  .
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December 9, 2003, 01:29
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Originally posted by Ramo
But look at the campaigns; Dean's is democratic and grass-roots. Its going to change things; hell, it's already changing things. Whether Dean wins, loses, or has yet another indecisive Florida debacle in the general election, democracy in the US will come out as the biggest winner.
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Now that Imran pointed this out . . . . .
change things as in . . .??
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December 9, 2003, 01:29
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As in sound really good and holy, but end up doing absolutely nothing  .
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December 9, 2003, 01:31
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Hey tongue-dude -- I was asking Ramo.
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December 9, 2003, 01:32
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I didn't use my tongue that time... anyway, I was answering for him, because more than likely he wasn't going to answer with the truth  .
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December 9, 2003, 01:34
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You mean you like the movie where Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson slugged it out??
I WANT THE TRUTH!!
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
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December 9, 2003, 01:37
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Yeah, except less gay .
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December 9, 2003, 01:38
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December 9, 2003, 05:33
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December 9, 2003, 08:49
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So if a recent FCC ruling allows the word to be said on TV, and the esteemed Senator from Massachusets and Democratic Presidential candidate can say it, how come we can't say it on Apolyton?
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because Markos is a real freedom fighter of liberal justice who deems arbitrary words and girls showing leg fascist America speak. We're a FAMILY site, folks!
f*** I'd love to live in Greece. General thought and consideration seems so much easier over there.
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December 9, 2003, 09:02
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Originally posted by Sava
what's wrong with ****? it's just a word... look... **** ****ity **** ****...
diplomat: I'm disappointed you listen to that fat windbag
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Actually, he is not fat anymore. And secondly, Rush is more entertaining and intelligent in 5 mn than any democrat in a lifetime. Heck, just listening to Clinton or Gore would make me want to vomit.
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December 9, 2003, 11:07
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Originally posted by Drogue
He isn't being completely anti-war like Dean,
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Dean isn't completely anti-War. He has repeatedly said that should the need arise, he would not hesitate to send American troops into battle. As regards Iraq, it was a war that not only didn't need to happen, but was contrary to our interests and has hurt America. Now that we are there, he says the only option is to win, but the Bush is incapable of doing what is needed.
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December 9, 2003, 12:56
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Dean isn't completely anti-War. He has repeatedly said that should the need arise, he would not hesitate to send American troops into battle.
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With UN approval of course. 
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December 9, 2003, 19:35
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Dean isn't completely anti-War. He has repeatedly said that should the need arise, he would not hesitate to send American troops into battle. As regards Iraq, it was a war that not only didn't need to happen, but was contrary to our interests and has hurt America. Now that we are there, he says the only option is to win, but the Bush is incapable of doing what is needed.
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What i meant was completely anti-Iraq war. I agree with his stance on that, but Kerry's is far more electable, as Zylka said earlier. I want Shrub out. If he's replaced by Kerry or Dean I'm not too bothered.
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December 9, 2003, 20:56
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Now if we had a real pacifist, that issue might even come into play for me. Apparently I'm to the left of Kucinich on this one.
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A lot of the dopey right believes Dubya is a saint
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Well, according to my church, he is one.
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December 10, 2003, 04:07
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I'm getting Ben Folds - Rocking the Suburbs vibes here...
It makes me real pissed off and makes me wanna say
It makes me real pissed off and makes me wanna say
It makes me real pissed off and makes me wanna say
FUUUUUUUUUUCK
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December 10, 2003, 04:10
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Well, according to my church, he is one.
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Every believer a 'saint, prophet, and king' theory, Ben?
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December 10, 2003, 21:47
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Because McGovern's democratic and grass-roots campaign changed things,
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You're bringing up a campaign 30 years ago? Yes, a lot of things did change after McGovern's campaign, probably in large part because of McGovern's campaign (that, Viet Nam, and Watergate). The mid-70's were probably the most democratic era in American history.
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because McCain's changed things, what a joke .
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McCain's campaign isn't either at the same scale as Dean's campaign or as democratic. And he didn't win the nomination. Dean probably will.
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December 10, 2003, 22:50
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Every believer a 'saint, prophet, and king' theory, Ben?
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Sort of...
When Paul writes to all the saints, he's not talking about dead people.
As for prophets, everyone has a gift, one of which may be prophecy. Not everyone will be a prophet.
Not sure where you get the allusion, Imran.
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December 11, 2003, 03:13
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You're bringing up a campaign 30 years ago?
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Well 30 years later, we'd have seen the changes, right?
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Yes, a lot of things did change after McGovern's campaign, probably in large part because of McGovern's campaign (that, Viet Nam, and Watergate).
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Yes, it is because of McGovern that Vietnam ending and Watergate happened . Jeez, been smoking the ganga these days?
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Not sure where you get the allusion, Imran.
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It's something Luther said. Well, actually every person a prophet, king, and priest (saint, priest - whatever ). Every person is a prophet, thus every person has the freedom to speak. Every person is a priest, thus every person has freedom to worship and associate with likeminded. Every person is a king, thus every person exercises God’s authority on his behalf.
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December 11, 2003, 03:42
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Well 30 years later, we'd have seen the changes, right?
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We did! The 70's was a decade of reform, and democracy made huge steps forward.
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Yes, it is because of McGovern that Vietnam ending and Watergate happened . Jeez, been smoking the ganga these days?
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I didn't say that. I said Viet Nam and Watergate were other contributors to these steps forward in democratization.
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December 11, 2003, 03:56
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The 70's was a decade of reform, and democracy made huge steps forward.
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Eh? Where? The 'me' decade was a period of great democracy? I think you may be the only one that saw it .
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