December 10, 2003, 14:59
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Theoretically maybe.
However it would be hilarious from any number of viewpoints IMO.
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December 10, 2003, 15:02
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those evil frenchies! they were trying to profit from the war!
... wait a minute...
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December 10, 2003, 15:10
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This shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Are local contractors not good enough for some reason?
Let's help these poor little Iraqis and steal their jobs. Woohoo! 
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December 10, 2003, 15:11
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Originally posted by Mercator
This shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Are local contractors not good enough for some reason?
Let's help these poor little Iraqis and steal their jobs. Woohoo!
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I sense a disturbance in the force
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December 10, 2003, 15:18
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This shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Are local contractors not good enough for some reason?
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They're fine as subcontractors. Indeed, the US has been pushing for more Iraqi subcontractors versus subcontractors from other countries (including the US).
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December 10, 2003, 16:06
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Originally posted by DanS
As an American taxpayer, I have no problem with excluding companies from non-participating countries from being prime contractors on our portion of the aid. It's our $19 billion, after all.
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If it is, I have no problem whatsoever. However if it's Iraqi money that the US has leant to Iraq, then it is for Iraqis to decide who gets it, not Americans.
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December 10, 2003, 16:14
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This is really rather stupid but on the up side the sums involved are small and these countries are only disallowed from recieving government contracts during reconstruction.
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December 10, 2003, 17:28
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funny news as I think. schröder and chirac will certainly have a hard time pretending their anger about that. 
why donating water pumps to baghdad when you can sell nucelar plants to beijing? 
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December 10, 2003, 17:34
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December 10, 2003, 17:36
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Originally posted by Sava
I sense a disturbance in the force
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Funny, in 1997 Haliburton LOST the competative bidding and Bill Clinton gave them the contract anyways.
The plot thins...
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December 10, 2003, 17:42
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so? have I ever said Clinton wasn't a corporate whore president?
funny how some people think hating Bush and company means I love Clinton and the Democratic party... too much chlorine in the gene pool
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December 10, 2003, 17:47
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Originally posted by Sava
so? have I ever said Clinton wasn't a corporate whore president?
funny how some people think hating Bush and company means I love Clinton and the Democratic party... too much chlorine in the gene pool
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Actually, it was the flouride!
All U.S. presidents have to be CWPs. The country is really just one big corporation.
Did I ever accuse you of being a Clinton robot?
Funny how some people are so ready to defend non-existant attacks....
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December 10, 2003, 17:51
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Originally posted by oedo
why donating water pumps to baghdad when you can sell nucelar plants to beijing?
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Or Tehran 
But apparently Bush didn't quite think of that
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December 10, 2003, 17:52
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Did I ever accuse you of being a Clinton robot?
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indirectly
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Funny how some people are so ready to defend non-existant attacks....
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it was implied...
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December 10, 2003, 17:53
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Or Tehran
But apparently Bush didn't quite think of that
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his daddy and reagan did... oh wait, no they sold nuclear components to Iraq... wrong evil nation that the US supported
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December 10, 2003, 17:55
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Originally posted by Sava
indirectly
it was implied...
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wow is that nit picking...OK, Sava, i'll just tiptoe over here....mmmmkay?
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December 10, 2003, 17:59
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Originally posted by Sava
his daddy and reagan did... oh wait, no they sold nuclear components to Iraq... wrong evil nation that the US supported
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 Sava...They weren't an evil nation, but a good, democratic nation valiantly fighting the evil terrorists of the terrroist nation of Iran 
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December 10, 2003, 18:18
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CNN is reporting Halliburton is screwing taxpayers again by charging double for gasoline... War Profiteering is treason in my world... so is overbilling the Armed Forces for gas.
Oh but we can't give those evil frenchies any contracts...
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December 10, 2003, 18:33
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Originally posted by oedo
why donating water pumps to baghdad when you can sell nucelar plants to beijing?
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So true. I heard, Pyongyang wants some too. 
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December 10, 2003, 18:37
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Germany rejected the list and France is examining its legitimiacy. They're going to go for it after all 
Oh USA... you used to be smarter and stronger than that
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December 10, 2003, 18:39
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What the hell was he thinking barring russia?
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December 10, 2003, 18:42
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If the Soviet Union wanted our money, they should've sent troops to Babylonia.
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December 10, 2003, 18:44
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The point is that Russia is still important globally, France isnt and hasent been for some time.
To add Russia and U.S. has been on PRETTY good terms for some time-even though they didnt support the war and might of sold Sadam some stuff, we should of over looked it for the sake of GOOD RELATIONS(a concept that seems foreign to this administration).
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December 10, 2003, 18:47
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Originally posted by DanS
As an American taxpayer, I have no problem with excluding companies from non-participating countries from being prime contractors on our portion of the aid. It's our $19 billion, after all.
The Canadians can direct their own aid dollars as they wish. If they want to exclude American companies, they are free to do so.
As for France, Germany, or Russia, why any crocodile tears would be shed for them for missing out on contracts for American aid dollars is beyond me.
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As an American taxpayer, I do have a problem. I want to get my money's worth. So **** all the nationalism. Give the contracts to the most capable companies, and do right by the taxpayers.
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December 10, 2003, 19:08
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I have no wish in being complacent to this blatant corporate whoring.
What's more alarming than shutting the Euros out is that we tend not to use Iraqi contracters even when they can get the job done cheaper, and we're giving contracts to notoriously anti-union businesses.
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December 10, 2003, 20:11
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I understand that France, Russia and Germany are promoting the reconstruction of Iraq by insisting on prompt payment of Iraq's outstanding debt to them that was incurred in major part for illegal arms sales to Saddam to kill Americans and Brits, and to torture his own people.
And posters here say something about America sucking Iraq dry when American is giving Iraq 20 billion in reconstruction aid? The outrageous hypocrisy of the axis of weasels is something to behold.
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December 10, 2003, 20:17
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I understand that France, Russia and Germany are promoting the reconstruction of Iraq by insisting on prompt payment of Iraq's outstanding debt to them that was incurred in major part for illegal arms sales to Saddam to kill Americans and Brits, and to torture his own people.
And posters here say something about America sucking Iraq dry when American is giving Iraq 20 billion in reconstruction aid? The outrageous hypocrisy of the axis of weasels is something to behold.
Ned, Fox News
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December 10, 2003, 20:18
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And now the Russians can tell washington to forget about anyone in Iraq having the 8 billion in debts forgiven..heck, the Russians might end up with more money thanks to this move..
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December 10, 2003, 20:19
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Originally posted by paiktis22
Germany rejected the list and France is examining its legitimiacy. They're going to go for it after all
Oh USA... you used to be smarter and stronger than that
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and what can they do about it?
NOTHING
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December 10, 2003, 20:20
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Actually, if the French find that this violates terms of the WTO, they can take the US to court.
And they can refuse to forgive any of Iraq's debt to them as well, like the Russians might.
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