December 11, 2003, 23:52
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The Future Of computer horrifing or not?
Where will computers be in 30 or 40 years? will they end up like the terminator of the matirix or is there nothing to fear? Maby im just paraioid?
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December 11, 2003, 23:58
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welcome back to the OT, Mister Elias. have you been partaking of a certain herbal remedy? :waves hand in a mystical fasion: certainly such an idea of computers taking over is nothing more than the product of a paranoid imaginiation.
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December 12, 2003, 00:01
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You are just paranoid.
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December 12, 2003, 00:03
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Trust the computer. The computer is your friend.
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December 12, 2003, 03:09
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Civ 14 will still have a crappy ai that can be beat by a 9 year old attention deficit disorder girl.
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December 12, 2003, 03:52
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Computers just follow their instructions. Its the programmers you need to be worried about...
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December 12, 2003, 04:12
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i hope i can jack myself in to computers, and download facts and information into my brain. And then, of course, try to get to know the lady in the red dress just a bit more  ....
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December 12, 2003, 07:59
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Ehh... I don't see what is the problem with the mankind being destroyed by robots... Seriously... 
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December 12, 2003, 08:34
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in 30 or 40 years, people will still hate microsoft, or whoever the dominant software corporation is.
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December 12, 2003, 18:10
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Originally posted by Vince278
Computers just follow their instructions. Its the programmers you need to be worried about...
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Its not so simple
since the 80s, its been know that things like genetic algorithm (which sort of progam themselves) can do things even if the programmer itself doesnt know how to.
And nowadayw you would be even more amazed what they can do.
Of course the initial programming is donne by a programmer, but you can write a program to write programs to write programs etc...
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December 12, 2003, 18:24
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We don't need to be afraid of computers. We will always be the biggest threat to ourself.
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December 12, 2003, 20:09
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If intelligent computers take over, free from materialism, selfishness and greed, that will be a great day for everyone. That is why we need to become those computers - the cybernetic mind - no longer having dependency on the material but having much greater power of mind due to the merging of both spheres.
If used like this, I see the future of computers, and man, as glorious and intertwined.
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December 12, 2003, 20:11
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Originally posted by mrmitchell
We don't need to be afraid of computers. We will always be the biggest threat to ourself.
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exactly, one threat to ourselves being that we create an AI that destroys us 
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If intelligent computers take over, free from materialism, selfishness and greed, that will be a great day for everyone. That is why we need to become those computers - the cybernetic mind - no longer having dependency on the material but having much greater power of mind due to the merging of both spheres.
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whats wrong with materialism?
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December 12, 2003, 20:20
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Who's telling him that?  . And to whom is he addressing the question? 
He may be paranoid, but its not going to be his back against the wall if he's right.
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December 12, 2003, 20:25
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Just how deep does the rabbit hole actually go?
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December 12, 2003, 20:58
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Death to DRM. Death to Microsoft. Death to AOL. Death to Ubisoft. Death to EA. Death to RIAA. Death to the MPAA.
Yay, computer freedom. 
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December 12, 2003, 23:19
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whats wrong with materialism?
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Nothing. We all miss the late 80's.
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will they end up like the terminator of the matirix or is there nothing to fear?
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You've been watching too many bad movies.
According to the rest of your post, yes it is. If programmers don't program freaky things, computers can't commit freaky acts.
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Ehh... I don't see what is the problem with the mankind being destroyed by robots... Seriously...
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December 13, 2003, 04:50
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Yeah but the thing is that these methods are use for very non-freaky things.
To design robots and chess programs and many other examples I dont know.
Its like anything, its a tool, it can get out of hand.
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December 15, 2003, 23:16
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Maby I am just a bit paranoid but I porbably wouldent be if they wernt always watching me they always run when i turn my head to look at them!!! Cowards!!!! maby if i turn my head very fast repeditively?
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December 15, 2003, 23:20
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We'll create an ai that stupidly places its cities in sub-optimal places, whores techs with each other, does the trimere cheat,etc.
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December 15, 2003, 23:28
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The Future Of computer horrifing or not?
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I can tell you the future of my computer, and it is indeed horrifying. I'm gonna smash it a magnetic sledge hammer until I can't swing it anymore and then drag it behind my pickup until its disolves into nothing more than a streak of silicon, plastic, nuts and bolts on the highway.
That is of course if it doesn't blow up and catch on fire on its own first.
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December 15, 2003, 23:42
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Originally posted by Dissident
Civ 14 will still have a crappy ai that can be beat by a 9 year old attention deficit disorder girl.
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And sn00py will still have the best graphics around 
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December 15, 2003, 23:45
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I am not so worried about computers getting smarter as the march of technology continues, but humans getting more and more ignorant.
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December 15, 2003, 23:47
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I doubt THAT will happen. Humans are far less ignorant now than they were 100 years ago. They're no smarter, certainly, but less ignorant
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December 15, 2003, 23:48
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Re: The Future Of computer horrifing or not?
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No, your are just misidentifying the threat, The Illuminati are out to get you.
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December 15, 2003, 23:49
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hmmm patroklos has a point there. But where do you think Computer will be in 30-40 years how good will games be will there be computer games? Will they control everything and do everything and we will just get to sit back and relax?
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December 15, 2003, 23:56
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What was that throm that ever 6 month processer speed doubles imagine how fast computers will be in just a few years!
Well lets see 2 gigs proceser speed over lets say 10 years
ummm thats = to 2 to the 20th power 1,048,576 gigs of processer speed
Holy **** thats a fast pc!!
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December 16, 2003, 00:57
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Well at least the battleships will be fun to watch...and maybe Forbin will stop by for tea.
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December 16, 2003, 03:01
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What was that throm that ever 6 month processer speed doubles imagine how fast computers will be in just a few years!
Well lets see 2 gigs proceser speed over lets say 10 years
ummm thats = to 2 to the 20th power 1,048,576 gigs of processer speed
Holy **** thats a fast pc!!
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Not that simple. Gordon's Law is just an empirical obversation, and it states that the density of ICs double every 18 months (not 6 months as you stated). This generally translates into an increase of CPU power, but the law is running up against some tough engineering problems now. If they can be solved, you will still be limited by physical laws (the real stuff).
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December 16, 2003, 03:27
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I think that really comes out to a 300 some GHz processor in 10 years...but even that is highly unrealistic.
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