The FDA knowing approved a vaccine for the wrong Flu strain!

Ned · December 14, 2003, 05:40

This is outrageous! The FDA knowingly approved a vaccine for the wrong strain of flu. The manufacturers could not make the right strain, the Fujian strain, without a first a using dog liver culture. The advisory panel voted 17-1 against this vaccine as it allegedly posed a risk of contamination. The leading expert disagreed on the risk level and said it was more important to make the vaccine for the right strain of flu - the Fujian strain - which is now ravaging the country and potentially the world.

Millions could get sick and thousands could die as a result of this outrage!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/12/13...ine/index.html

Dis · December 14, 2003, 05:43

how could they have known what could have happened? It said the strain did not meet FDA standards.

People die from the flu, get used to it.

Urban Ranger · December 14, 2003, 05:46

I don't understand this. They approved the vaccine for a strain of flu that meets their standards.

Ned · December 14, 2003, 05:58

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I don't understand this. They approved the vaccine for a strain of flu that meets their standards.

But that is not for the strain they expected and therefor mostly ineffective. This is one of the reasons the Flu is out of control this year.

Dis · December 14, 2003, 06:09

so all the dead people's families should sue the FDA and put them out of business.

If the strain they wanted to include didn't meet FDA standards, what are they to do?

Nubclear · December 14, 2003, 06:45

If the FDA knowingly did this, then they willingly put people at risk and consequently CHIDLREN have died because of their ineptness.

Dis · December 14, 2003, 06:48

children die every year of the flu

Nubclear · December 14, 2003, 06:50

Children day every year due to many things. This does not mean that those things should not be actively sought out and destroyed.

Dis · December 14, 2003, 06:54

Creating flu vaccines isn't an exact science. There are many variables involved. Sometimes mistakes happen.

Nubclear · December 14, 2003, 06:56

From what I gather, this isn't one of those times

Vesayen · December 14, 2003, 07:11

Am I the only person scared shitless over this? Already 3 sick people in my hall at college.... *hides*

Ned · December 14, 2003, 07:56

It hasn't reached Kalifornia yet. I really do not want to get the Flu. But now that I know that the vaccine is worthless, I won't even try to get it.

Bugs ****ing Bunny · December 14, 2003, 08:28

It's just flu, you big girl's blouses. You aren't kids or geriatrics.

Drake Tungsten · December 14, 2003, 09:46

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You aren't kids or geriatrics.

No, but most of them are computer geeks, who are the equivalent of kids and geriatrics. Be afraid, be very afraid...

Urban Ranger · December 14, 2003, 11:42

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

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You aren't kids or geriatrics.

No, but most of them are computer geeks, who are the equivalent of kids and geriatrics.

Why Drake Tungsten is not a doctor or even medical student.

Drake Tungsten · December 14, 2003, 11:46

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Why Drake Tungsten is not a doctor or even medical student.

How do you know?

Urban Ranger · December 14, 2003, 11:49

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

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Why Drake Tungsten is not a doctor or even medical student.

How do you know?

Exhibit A:

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...but most of them are computer geeks, who are the equivalent of kids and geriatrics

Drake Tungsten · December 14, 2003, 11:56

Ah yes, facetious comments taken out of context always make good evidence...

Dis · December 14, 2003, 15:28

no reason to be scared.

Good health is all in the mind. Some people can beat cancer through will alone.

I believe I won't get sick, and I won't.

I haven't had a cold in almost 10 years. *knocks on wood just in case*

Provost Harrison · December 14, 2003, 16:15

It's all about risk. The FDA are not going to approve a vaccine if the potential hazards outweigh the potential benefits. In this case of using the dog kidney, there are just too many unknowns. And believe me, the FDA do not like taking any risks, let alone unnecessary ones.

Provost Harrison · December 14, 2003, 16:17

...the chances are that the FDA have told them to go away and gather more information and evidence regarding this method of manufacture for further assessment.

Ned · December 14, 2003, 16:41

Provost, I am not an expert here. But their best expert said the risk was only remote, but that making the wrong vaccine was certain to cause harm. This controversy smacks of the extreme risk adversion of some countries concerning genetically altered (improved) corn and the like.

mrmitchell · December 14, 2003, 16:53

That's odd, I never noticed the flu "ravaging the country". This is an example of irresponsible journalism (though I've tuned it out), folks, that plus the hypochondriacs are working double time this year.

Flu happens. Every winter it comes back around, and there's never exactly a time where the health departments are just drowning in vaccines, either. And every time, there's a group (this year larger than normal) of raging panic artists and a few irresponsible journalists that take a normal illness and turn it into the end of humanity.

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But their best expert said the risk was only remote,

And the other 17 ones apparently said it wasn't remote. You know what? If they DID approve that, and millions of people got infected by some disastrous failure because of it, people (the same hypochondriacs) would be whining about that too. You can't make everyone happy, and you can't make some people happy at all.

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This controversy smacks of the extreme risk adversion of some countries concerning genetically altered (improved) corn

Remember that company that said it developed genetically altered corn that made men sterile? THAT's why people fear GM foods. Now, do you know how disastrous it would be if that corn got crossbred with regular corn? The panic artists would start whining about that too. It's either "They won't let us improve corn" or "They let us **** up humanity", there's no way to please them.

Dis · December 14, 2003, 16:54

I never heard of corn that caused men to be sterile. link?

mrmitchell · December 14, 2003, 16:57

Well, this was the closest thing I could come up with.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gmdebate/S...549002,00.html

Dis · December 14, 2003, 17:05

uggh, scary article. As if they have the right to stop people from overpopulating. Which is not happening to any great extent anyways. In fact, some population are in danger of underpopulation.

Timexwatch · December 14, 2003, 17:10

It's the damn flu, you sissies. I'm finally shaking it off after a week. Yeah, it sucks, but it's not the end of the world.

Dis · December 14, 2003, 17:21

unless you are a child

KrazyHorse · December 14, 2003, 18:58

Who cares?

****ing pansies with their ****ing flu shots.

KrazyHorse · December 14, 2003, 18:59

Only old people got flu shots in Canada. It seems like everybody here gets one.