1750 Starting

[Bearcat]

*patient tone* Yes Spartan but this is 1750. That is why the Dutch rebelled against the Spanish. The Spaniards were Catholic and the Dutch were Protestant. While the southern regions remained Catholic. *patient tone ends*

[hacksaw]

this is for Mao
Movements for the Armies of Prussia:

I Corps, led by Frederik the Great and 20,000 men-strong, marches against the Polish V corps from Kustrin Total forces attacking: 20,000. Tactic-Echelon

II Corps, led by Schwerin and 20,000 men strong, marches against Polish II corps in East Prussia accompanied by forces from West Prussia. Total Attacking force: 30,000. Tactic-Echelon

Forces in Saxony, now 40,000 men strong and led by Prince Henry with the combined forces with v. Zieten's forces marches against Leipzig accompanied by forces from Magdeburg. Total attacking force: 50,000. Tactic-Echelon

Forces in Magdeburg (IV Corps), 10,000 men strong, converge on Leipzig as well with Prince Henry's forces.

Forces in West Prussia, 10,000 men strong, converge against the Polish II corps in East Prussia to destroy it. They converge with the II corps.

Forces in Mecklenburg (V Corps), now 25,000 men strong, hold their ground.

Forces In Silesia (VIII Corps) hold their ground.
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[hacksaw]

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[hacksaw]

The Ottoman empire rejects your pleas for help Poles. Your time is over. You have agitated our friends the prussians and now you will suffer. In fact your messanger, the infidel, insulted the Sultan at a feast. He actually drank before the Sultan had raised his glass to toast. Along with this message is the mans head. His face has frozen in a look of terror. We advice you to study it well. For you soon shall have the same contience. The Ottoman empire declares war on Poland!

[Chris Szabla]

To Prussia: Armies can only move once a turn...there's been at least 3 moves for Prussia today...

[General_BT]

OOC: There has been no battle of Gothenburg, namely because the Swedish player hasn't sent in his tactic... if they don't by 12 noon tommorrow, I will pick a tactic for them...
General rule: If you do not decide on a tactic, I will decide one for you at by noon of the second day after the battle began...

You need troops on transports to invade an island.

JT3, you forgot to take into account the 20,000 troops in NE Hesse that have NOT crossed the Prussian border, and are a turns marching distance, in addition to the 10,000 new recruits Hesse receives...

next time, be patient!

Ok, I have lost track of who is attacking who... I'm posting what I can find... If I forgot you, harrass me on ICQ of via email
HESSE
10,000 regulars deployed in Duchies

SAXONY
20,000 regulars deployed in Leipzig

VENETIA:
10,000 regulars to Mantua
10,000 to Zara
TUSACANY
15,000 to Leghorn


SAXONY APPEALS TO FRANCE!
To our French friends, with whom we nobly fought in the recent war of Succession,

We are under attack by dastardly and devious powers! Your great rival, Rhine, and her minionous ally, Prussia, both menace our virgin lands! We impore you, France, defender of right, to come to our aid, and crush tehse armies of darkness!
Saxony Moves
20,000 troops deployed in Leipzig
73,000 in Allied combined army in Liepzig

Battle of NE Hesse!
Today the forces of Great Britain invaded Hesse from Hanover, intending to add to the kings personal territory.

Opposing them stood 30,000 troops from Hesse, 10,000 of them fresh regulars.

The battle began with the Rhineish commander deciding to outflank his oppoenents, counting on surprise to be the main factor.

His opposing commader chose to mass his reserves. The pinning force collided with the intial Hessian line, pushing it back for several hundred yards before it stiffened behind a line of artillery batteries.

As the Rhineish outflanking force arrived, they were suprised by the mass Hessian reserve, which launched an immediate assault upon teh flanking forces.

For the next two hours, the battle was a bloody slugging match. After several hours, the engagement finally ended at nightfall, with the Rhinish army withdrawing from the field overnight. Hesse, though, had paid dearly for her tactical victory. While 8,000 Rhineish littered the field, the boides of over 6,000 of Hesse's finest covered the ground with their blood.

END RESULT: Hessian Victory
Casualties:
Rhine: 8,000
Hesse: 6,000

Venice Attacks!
20,000 troops under the Mayor of Mantua have set about assaulting the Austrian forces appraoching the city. The Venetians plan to echelon their opponents...
10,000 Venetian troops at Zara are marching north to seize Karlstadt...


Battle Of Leipzig!
Prince Henry, noting he now had a powerful force of 50,000 men, pushed forward with his planned offensive in Saxony. Within a few days, his army took the field against the combined Saxon/Hessian force of 73,000 troops...

The Saxons had at their head Saschen Weissenfells, recently recovered from his illness in Liepzig. Noting that the large Prussian force before him was headed for his right flank, Weissenfells began removing troops from his left... and began carefully moving them around the Prussian right flank...

By noon, battle was heavily joined, as the disciplined Prussian columns pushed the Hessian right back further and further. Weissenfells himself was forced to ride amdist his troops, urging them to stay on the field.

About2 PM, the sounds of heavy musketry confirmed that his 23,000 flanking troops had hit th Prussian left hard. Weissenfells was greeted with a relaxation of pressure on his right within a half an hour of the loud musketry.

Calling for the "brave of Saxony" to advance behind him, Weissenfells in person led a a cavalry charge into the teeth of the Prussian army. To his suprise and dismay, the Prussian columns calmy formed sqaured, and the cream of Saxony's cavalry vanished amidst smoke and musketry.

As nigthfall approached around 8 PM, Wiessenfells eased on his attack, as it was apparent the Prussians weren't moving. During the night, the Prussian army withdrew back to Wittemberg.

RESULT:SAXON TACTICAL VICTORY
LOSSES:
Prussia: 20,000 troops
Saxony: 21,000 troops

[Midshipman]

To His Royal Majesty in France:
At this time, we are not willing to enter into an alliance with you. However, a trade agreement and a non-agression pact are agreeable with us, perhaps with talks continuing in the future.


Foreign and Defense Minister Samuel Cox


His Royal Highness King Goerge II
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Umm... BT- Did you see my orders of moving into those two territories? I placed down the tactics- head on attack for Peshawar and outflank for the other...

[JT3]

OOC: I won't be online for a day or two, it seems my line has been cut......

Anyway, I agree to the alliance. Also, my first attack(no stry, dont have time):

30,000 troops attack Duchies(territory of Hesse). Tactic: Outflank

15000 pin
15000 flank

Shouldn't be much of a battle, virtually the entire Hessian army is attacking Prussia.
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[Bearcat]

One question? How did Venice suddenly get 30,000 soldiers. I'm assuming they're regulars. The last I knew I had destroyed the only Veneitian Corps marked in your Theater of War map and sent them running with their tails between their legs. And they had lost 10,000 soldiers knocking them down to 10,000 soldiers. Now how did they suddenly get 30,000?

To France - We await your reply as fellow Catholics.

[PolarisGL]

An alliance with the Netherlands has been signed.

It is unfortunate, but I am glad you accept our pact and trade treaty.

Perhaps your mind will change, and perhaps Denmark and Britain will allow France to make the triple alliance a quad alliance.

[General_BT]

Prussia and the allies agree to peace!
In a deal reached just recently, the Allies of Hesse and Saxony have secured peace from Prussia!

IN return for the return of the territory of Wittemberg, Saxony shall pay Prussia $20 out of her budget (which has not yet been allocated for funds).

Prussian withdrawls will commence immediately as soon as Saxon payment is recieved.

Uhh.. BT did you see my question?

[General_BT]

They got the 20,000 troops they ordered the first day as regulars... you have all the regulars you ordered the first day are in service. Regulars enter service after two turns.

Actually, there were significant protestant groups in the Southern Netherlands as well at the time. IRL, most of them fled to the north later on, but I believe that a good amount of people from the Southern Netherlands are still protestant. And they are mainly catholic because of years of Spanish/Austrian occupation, unlike the north which had been liberated. And my reasons are not entirely religious at all.

Anyway, the Dutch fleet will be sent southwards to blockade the ports in the Austrian Netherlands, so that any attempt at moving in troops from Austria by sea will be sent to the bottom of the sea. This includes four heavy warships, five light warships and two privateers.

[Spartan187]

BT-PLEASE RESPOND TO MY INVASION OF ANCONA AND MALTA AND MY QUESTION OF DO WE HAVE TO POST BUDGET EVERY DAY
(Not really mad, just hoping that posting in caps will make BT read this post since he already missed 2 )

[Midshipman]

Sorry I missed my last budget. I got confused about game time. I have 100,000 regulars that just came into service (ordered on Monday, 2 days later) This will be the 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, and 14th Corps.
The 10th Will be in London, and will join the 1st Corps in the Kings Own Army, which will be under the command of George II.
Amherst will transfer to Hannover and take command of the 9th Corps. The 11th through 14th Corps will be formed into the First British Expeditionary Army under the command of Clive. Movement will be posted later today. I will wait for BT to tell me when my ships will be finished, before I add those to my force strength.

Budget:
120 Terrain Squares * 10 = $1200
55 Cities * 10 = $550
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Total Money = $1750

Military Budget:
1750 * 30% = $525
Upkeep Budget:

200,000 regulars = $200
10 Heavy = $50
15 Light = $37.5
5 Privateers = $25
5 Transports = $5
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Total Upkeep = $317.5

Surplus = $207.5
Treasury = $47.5

Total Extra = $255


England is calling up 60,000 more regulars
and 60,000 militia
Construction Budget:
60,000 Regulars = $120
60,000 Militia = $60

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Total Construction = $180
Surplus = $75

The surplus is to be stored in the Royal Treasuy for emergency uses in the future

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India:


Budget:
31 From Territory = $310
13 From Cities = $130
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Total = $440

Military = $132
Upkeep = $46.5
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Surplus = $85.5
Treasury = $35.5

Total = $121


Military Budget:
100,000 Militia = $100
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Total = $100
Surplus = $21


Deployments:
Calcutta - 4th Indian Corps - 20,000 Milita
Madras - 5th Indian Corps - 20,000 Militia
Bombay - 6th Indian Corps - 20,000 Militia

And In America

151 From Territories = $1510
31 From Cities = $310
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Total = $1820

Military = $546
Upkeep = $91.5
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Surplus = $454.5
Treasury = $254.5

Total = $609


Military Budget:
2 Light In New York = $20
2 Light In Boston = $20
2 Light In St. Johns = $20
2 Light in Philadelphia = $20
2 Light in Norfolk = $20
2 Light in Savannah = $20
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Total = $120

Surplus = $489

Deployments:
New York - 8th American Corps - 20,000
St. Johns - 9th American Corps - 20,000
Richmond - 10th American Corps - 20,000
Savannah - 11th American Corps - 20,000
Charleston - 12th American Coprs - 20,000
Boston - 13th American Corps - 20,000
Philadelphia - 14th American Corps - 20,000
Raleigh - 15th American Corps - 20,000
Baltimore - 16th American Corps - 20,000
Trenton - 17th American Corps - 20,000

I'll post my moves later today. And, if I can find out about my fleet from BT, I'll post that, too.



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[Bearcat]

OOC - Yes bur IRL over 75% of the Belgian population is Catholic. And that my firend is why the Dutch never kept Belgium in their nation. Because the Belgians did not want a Protestant monarch.

IC
The II, IX, and XII are moving out of Trieste toward an unknown location. Meanwhile Kaiser Francis has declared war on the Kingdom of Poland in accordance to our alliance with Prussia. The XVI Corps is moving to meet the Polish IV Corps in Galicia.

The Belgian militias in the Austrian Netherlands are digging in to fortify themselves. Their morale has been renewed knowing that they are fighting for a Catholic and not a Protestant nation. Priests are making tours of the trenches in attempts to keep spirits up until help arrives.

Meanwhile in Venice the 19,000 Austrian troops have stopped. The reason is exaggerated Venetian numbrrs which has made some of our soldiers nervous. However Field Marhsal Browne is assuring everyone that teheir is nothing to fear.

[PolarisGL]

SURPRISE ATTACK ON AUSTRIAN FORCES

Corps XXXVI-XXXVIII & Corps XIV, under command of Maurice of Savoy have attacked Namur.

The 40,000 troops surprised the 1,000 militia.
Probing the outlying city is occuring, and the forces will envelop the city with XXXVIII and XIV on the flank.

In the mean time, French corps at the southeast border prepare for defense of a possible Austrian attack.

Our southern fleet has reached the bay between Italy and Greece and our blockade has been established on the Austrians.

If the battle between our 40,000 regulars and their 1,000 militia is successful, Belgium will be property of Franco-Dutch powers.

France will keep hold of Liege permanently now, as discussed with the Netherlands for aiding them in their conquest.

Our remaining Corps in Belgium have fortified themselves in Liege and the surrounding forests. Any attack on Liege by the Austrians would be useless and futile.

[Bearcat]

A letter to the French and Dutch forces

To the honored rulers of France and Holland,

Greetings from his Imperial Austrian Majesty Kaiser Francis I. Seeings as you are both very stubborn in pressing this attack we have a solution. The Dutch are a Protestant people and the Belgians are a Catholic one. As we Austrians are also Catholic we think it would be much better for us to continue ruling them. However seeings that the Dutch seem hellbent on controlling them for whatever reason we must propose a joint control of the Austrian Netherlands. We are willing to fill in the exact specifications later. What say you?

Scripted by the Imperial Secretary of His Majesty,
Kaiser Francis I

[Scott F]

Mao sends:
Budget for Prussia:

Terrain=52=$520
Smokestacks=33=$330
Money from Saxony=$20
Money from Rhineland=$32

Total: $902
Military War Budget: $451

Maintain 137,000 troops: $137
Maintain one (1) Light Squadron: $2.50
Raising: 75,000 troops

Surplus: $161.50
Total Savings: $164.50

OOC: I'm assuming Hodad doesn't have West East Prussia as I have met him in
battle there but he hasn't posted his tactic.

Brunswick, v. Zieten, and Prince Henry have all retreated from Saxony.
Brunswick (10,000 men) has retreated to Magdeburg. v. Zieten (10,000) has
retreated to Glogau. Prince Henry (10,000) has retreated to Glogau as well
under the command of v. Zieten.

OOC: Spartan, I don't think you can invade just with a fleet, you need to have transports and troops in those transports for an invasion.

[PolarisGL]

TO THE SENSABLE LEADER OF AUSTRIA:

Hello. I see you are tired of this as well. France will hold control of Liege as their part. Liege, both the city and territory it is in, are mostly catholic people. The Netherlands and I have talked things over. The Netherlands will hold the cities/provinces of Brussels and Antwerp. You will hold the city and province of Namur. One condition is this: you must never have any force in Namur. If a regular is spoted in the territory, you will be looked down upon and this will happen again. Same goes for any type of military soldier, militia, etc.

The Netherlands confirm this agreement, and the declaration of war on Austria has been retracted. The regulars being called up, known as the IV Corps, will return home to their wives and children. Flanders is being welcomed into the Netherlands, and the provinces of Brabant, Vlaanderen and Limburg will have the same rights as the northern provinces. A new budget and further plans will be presented in the near future.

[Coug]

Finalised Budget:
Old Territories: £510

And assuming I win the battle in Gothenburg, which I think I will, income from:

New Territories: 11 points & 7 city points = £180

Total: £690
Military: £345

Upkeep:

115.000 troops: £115
6 heavy warships: £30
10 light warships: £25
2 transports: £2
Total: £173
The Privateer is decommisioned

To spare:
£345 - £173 = £172

Builds:
72.000 troops to be stationed in Copenhagen, Hamburg and Christiania - £72
10 light warship - £50
5 heavy warship - £50
Totals - £172

Thank you

[PolarisGL]

See below.
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[PolarisGL]

THE BEGLIUM COMPRIMISE



Note: Any troops seen on the map may not be where they are now. The troops in Belgium are not on this map.

[JT3]

BT: The battle you posted shouldn't have happened, if Hesse gets new troops then I would too. Therefore, since you would have posted they were in Duchies and now evenly number me, I would have obviously added more troops to my assault. So repost the battle with the new numbers in this post.

IC:

NEW RHINISH MILITARY BUDGET

Total Spending Amount Available: 255$

ARMY I
10,000 Regulars
Attacking Duchies

ARMY II
10,000 Regulars
Attacking Duchies

ARMY III
10,000 Regulars
Attacking Duchies

ARMY IV
10,000 Regulars
Attacking Duchies

ARMY V
10,000 Regulars
Attacking Duchies

ARMY VI
10,000 Regulars
Attacking Duchies

ARMY VII
10,000 Regulars
Stationed in Ulm

ARMY VIII
10,000 Regulars
Stationed in Ulm

ARMY IX
10,000 Militia
Attacking Duchies

ARMY X
10,000 Militia
Stationed in Ulm

ARMY XI
10,000 Militia
Stationed in Mainz

New Regulars to complete training in 1 turn.

Total Spent: 105$

Recruiting:
20,000 Regulars
20,000 Militia

Total Spent: 60$

Overall: 165$
Saved: 90$
Total Amount in Military Treasury: 193$

New Budget for Poland
Total: $1380
Military (50%): $690
Support 85,000 Regs: $85
Raising 300,000 Regs: $600 (Ready on Sunday)
Superavit: $5 + $1 last turn= $6

Moves:
V Corps Arrive in West Prussia.
Total 10,000 Regulars commanded by LaSault.
Tactic- Massed Reserve
Pinning: 2500
Reserve: 7500
I leave this corp in God's hands.
In case of a defeat, the remnants retreat into Thorn where they will be reinforced to reach 30,000 on Friday.

II Corps in battle commanded by Pilsudski.
Total: 25,000 Regs
Infantry: 17,500
Cavalry: 7,500
Tactic- Outflank
Pinning: 10,000 Regs
Outflanking: 7,500 Regs, 7,500 Cavalry or else 15,000
If defeated they retreat to forest in Masovia where they will be reinforced on Friday to reach 40,000 troops.

On friday I reinforce the IV Corps adding 5,000 troops.

OOC: BT, Watch Poland this weekend. If the worst comes to the worst you have my permission to deploy 100,000 troops next Sunday. As from tomorrow and till Monday I have Easter Holiday, thus I won't come on-line.
I'll post Sunday's budget on Monday and if you could please do my budget on Friday I will be most welcome. Please don't allocate more than 60% to war and concentrate on Regulars.
Thank you.

[Spartan187]

Okay, now what about my invasion of Ancona and question of whether you have to post a budget every day?

[Chris Szabla]

Spartan: Romagna is open land...they have no army. Feel free to march in and take Ancona.

As for budgets, I'm doing one every 2 days.