December 15, 2003, 23:59
|
#1
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Directly from the FART international airport
Posts: 3,045
|
Country with best cinematography?
Without getting too patriotic, and by avoiding at all costs judging nationalities from their cultural production, I would like to know which country you believe has produced the most interesting cinematography throughout history.
My poll only includes countries with an important cinematographic tradition, but feel free to choose a smaller nation and explain why.
EDIT:
Ok forgot to include a poll. Here are some suggestions:
USA
Mexico
France
Germany
Italy
Poland
Russia/USSR
Yugoslavia
Iran
India
Japan
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 00:00
|
#2
|
|
Prince
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 403
|
Germany, I love their films...
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 00:04
|
#3
|
|
King
Local Time: 07:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seattle Washington
Posts: 2,954
|
their poop porn thorn?
__________________
"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 00:07
|
#4
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 21,822
|
Mexico?
__________________
[Obama] is either a troll or has no ****ing clue how government works - GePap
Later amendments to the Constitution don't supersede earlier amendments - GePap
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 00:11
|
#5
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Directly from the FART international airport
Posts: 3,045
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally posted by skywalker
Mexico?
|
What's wrong? they have a decent filmmaking history. Besides, I felt like it was unfair not to include any South American country (though I left Africa).
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 00:55
|
#6
|
|
Prince
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 403
|
|
Quote:
|
|
their poop porn thorn?
|
No you've been watching too much SouthPark. Films like Run Lola Run! Cinematic Genius!
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 00:58
|
#7
|
|
King
Local Time: 07:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 1,413
|
It all depends on the movie. Amelie had great cinematography, while Brotherhood of the Wolf did not.
Skywalker: Awesome avatar
__________________
"I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
"I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 01:04
|
#8
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 21,822
|
That has to be the fourth or fifth time I've heard that 
__________________
[Obama] is either a troll or has no ****ing clue how government works - GePap
Later amendments to the Constitution don't supersede earlier amendments - GePap
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 01:21
|
#9
|
|
ACS Staff Member
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Rockville, MD
Posts: 10,595
|
btw, great avatar. 
__________________
I was thinking to use a male-male jack and record it. - Albert Speer
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 01:24
|
#10
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
|
Where the hell is New Zealand?
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 01:49
|
#11
|
|
King
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Kabul, baby!
Posts: 2,876
|
Japan. The Japanese traditions in visual arts have been carried over into their films to a greater extent than in other countries, and the result is a filmmaking tradition that emphasizes teh breathtaking individual shot. Ozu and Kurosawa, while very different from each other, are both good examples of filmmakers who made such films, but the best example is probably Mizoguchi; his Ugetsu Monogatari may be the most beautifully shot film I've ever seen.
__________________
"If crime fighters fight crime, and firefighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight?"— George Carlin
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 01:53
|
#12
|
|
King
Local Time: 17:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: the contradiction is filled with holes...
Posts: 1,398
|
The list (at least a part of it):
France
Usa
Great Britain
Australia
New Zealand
Germany
Russia
Finland
__________________
I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 02:00
|
#13
|
|
King
Local Time: 09:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 2,207
|
France has managed to put out a few really notable films over the years such as:
Jean de Florette/Manon of the Spring (1986)
Wasabi (2002) - a new one, but it's up there.
...and don't forget some of the good French films out of the late fifties, early sixties. The French were always good at the suspenseful safe-cracker movies, or detective noir.
Of the foreign films I've seen I've always noticed the great cinematography in French films. None have really matched the high-quality films that Hollywood has put out over the years, but then again Hollywood is one of those money meccas that can afford cinematography every once and awhile.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 02:09
|
#14
|
|
Warlord
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: I eat my own poop
Posts: 216
|
France.
A history of bold, independent films transcending the usual Hollywood fluff.
Also, strong nods to Japan for its animation, very one of a kind.
__________________
"Dave, if medicine tasted good, I'd be pouring cough syrup on my pancakes." -Jimmy James, Newsradio
"Your plans to find love, fortune, and happiness utterly ignore the Second Law Of Thermodynamics."-Horiscope from The Onion
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 03:00
|
#15
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 09:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Illinois
Posts: 8,595
|
I've never seen any foreign films -- unless one or two films I have seen were originally produced in Texas.
__________________
STFU and then GTFO!
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 05:33
|
#16
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
|
Seriously, the U.S. has no competition when it comes to movie making.
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 05:37
|
#17
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 07:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 17,354
|
the U.S. and
no one else.
maybe Italy just for the spagetti westerns 
__________________
Focus, discipline
Barack Obama- the antichrist
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:24
|
#18
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Directly from the FART international airport
Posts: 3,045
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Seriously, the U.S. has no competition when it comes to movie making.
|
I don't wound to sound anti-American here... but America is probably one of the suckiest country when it comes to movies.
Sure, there was Welles, Kubrick, van Sant, David Lynch. There is the Sundance festival, but...
how much Hollywoodian movies, how much Academy Awards, stupid star system.
Try the following exercise: analyse the story of a movie. If it's Hollywoodian, there is a 95% chance than it will have two parts: a love story + a suspense (whatever it may be). Each story will have starting point in the first 15 minutes and a resolution point int he last 15. Characters are clearly separated between good and evil so as not to confuse the viewer. They have no psychology, and each major character is defined in the first few minutes by obvious dialogue lines. There is no such thing as nuance or paradox.
The technique is absolutely invisible. The goal here is that the viewer forgets he is seeing a movie, so that he feels the emotion without having to think about what he is seeing, even less criticizing the obvious propaganda.
Think a second about Saving Private Ryan: did you notice that you never see a close up on the face of a German soldier (except for a single one); and that they are always filmed in a dark and shady way? Ask yourself why.
Do this, and, believe me, you won't be seeing an Hollywoodian movie for the rest of your life.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:37
|
#19
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 09:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
|
Iran?
Hell, you'd love far West Texas.
What about New Zealand?
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:41
|
#20
|
|
OTF Moderator
Local Time: 15:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Ming on rakastajani
Posts: 7,511
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Where the hell is New Zealand?
|
The South Pacific.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:42
|
#21
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 16:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 8,491
|
France, then Germany... the US make many popular movies, but they're not too high in quality
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:45
|
#22
|
|
OTF Moderator
Local Time: 15:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Ming on rakastajani
Posts: 7,511
|
No mention of the UK? Interesting. We've (historically) had a great film making tradition. Not so much now though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:46
|
#23
|
|
King
Local Time: 14:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 2,247
|
|
Quote:
|
|
Besides, I felt like it was unfair not to include any South American country (though I left Africa).
|
Uhh, Mexico isn't located in South America.
|
Quote:
|
|
the US make many popular movies, but they're not too high in quality
|
I disagree, most of the popular movies which are made in US may be not too high in quality, yes, but the popular movies are not the only ones made in there.
DEDIT: Spelklkink.
Last edited by VJ; December 16, 2003 at 10:52.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:47
|
#24
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 16:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 8,491
|
Well I know no old movies from ze UK. But then isn't A Clockwork Orange an English movie?
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:47
|
#25
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 09:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
|
I thought you meant the scenery.
Can I change my vote, to NOT Iowa, in either case?
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:47
|
#26
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 16:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 8,491
|
ah, Trainspotting...
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:49
|
#27
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 10:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the closet...
Posts: 10,604
|
|
Quote:
|
|
The South Pacific.
|
I'm surprised it took so long for that "joke" to appear...
__________________
KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:52
|
#28
|
|
Prince
Local Time: 16:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Brussels
Posts: 854
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I don't wound to sound anti-American here... but America is probably one of the suckiest country when it comes to movies.
[...]
If it's Hollywoodian,
[...]
|
So, better say:
Hollywood is probably one of the suckiest place when it comes to movies...
Don't mix up Hollywood and USA.
__________________
The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:54
|
#29
|
|
Emperor
Local Time: 09:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: The cities of Orly and Nowai
Posts: 4,228
|
what about about schmidt? that's not something that starts and ends in the first and final 15.
__________________
B♭3
|
|
|
|
|
|
December 16, 2003, 10:55
|
#30
|
|
Deity
Local Time: 09:40
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 27,637
|
DRY! A man of reasoning ability. Welcome!
__________________
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:40.
|
|
