December 20, 2003, 00:46
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What about people who reduce all arguments down to blatant strawmen?
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What you think to be blatant strawmen may be not so blatant after all.
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December 20, 2003, 00:47
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Perhaps you could write your PhD thesis for Philosophy on that.
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December 20, 2003, 00:49
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You've got more of a mathematical background than philosophers, I'd think. Haven't you taken quite a few econ courses?
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Well, at least philosophers tend to be familiar with the axiomatic foundations of mathematics.
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December 20, 2003, 00:50
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Not as well as they should, evidently.
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December 20, 2003, 00:56
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Perhaps you could write your PhD thesis for Philosophy on that.
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That's a good idea. If Agathon agrees to be my supervisor. 
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December 20, 2003, 01:26
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Quoting is overrated, so it's too bad Agathon has has you on ignore, so he'll never read it.
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December 20, 2003, 01:29
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December 20, 2003, 01:38
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December 20, 2003, 02:17
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Yeah, but I didn't need the upper level math (by upper level I mean Pre-Calculus and then Calculus)  . Not really anyway.
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If you didn't need calculus then you didn't take physics.
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December 20, 2003, 02:20
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Well, at least philosophers tend to be familiar with the axiomatic foundations of mathematics.
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I'm a physicist/mathematician, and I'm very well acquainted with the axiomatic foundations of every branch of mathematics commonly used by any people other than mathematicians.
Would you like me to list the peano axioms? How about the set-theoretic axioms? Perhaps you'd like to go over the concept of a limit, or a metric space, or a topology, or a group....
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December 20, 2003, 02:58
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I'm a physicist/mathematician, and I'm very well acquainted with the axiomatic foundations of every branch of mathematics commonly used by any people other than mathematicians.
Would you like me to list the peano axioms? How about the set-theoretic axioms? Perhaps you'd like to go over the concept of a limit, or a metric space, or a topology, or a group....
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I have no doubt that you can list them all. But so what? It would be stupid to claim that philosophers know them better than you or physicists/mathematicians in general. What I meant to say is that the axiomatic approach is a subject of study within the framework of philosophy too. In fact, there are certain subtle points that are best discussed precisely within this framework. That's why philosophers tend to be rather clued on this matter.
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December 20, 2003, 03:08
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So bravo for Philosophers knowing a subset of what physicists know?
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December 20, 2003, 03:11
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Philosophers know it from a different angle.
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December 20, 2003, 03:13
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Which angle is that?
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December 20, 2003, 03:14
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In other words an angle where they don't actually understand from?
I don't get it.
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December 20, 2003, 03:14
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And you are asking this just after getting an A? 
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December 20, 2003, 03:15
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And you are asking this just after getting an A?
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It was an A-, I lost marks in my final essay for taking making light of drunk, unemployed people running over newborns. He doesn't understand my humour. 
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December 20, 2003, 03:18
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Scientists do things, and philosophers talk about what they've done. Sweet.
In my business what we call professors who do that is "retired" or "useless"...
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It was an A-, I lost marks in my final essay for taking making light of drunk, unemployed people running over newborns. He doesn't understand my humour.
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You're an odd guy, Dave.
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December 20, 2003, 03:24
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It was an A-, I lost marks in my final essay for taking making light of drunk, unemployed people running over newborns. He doesn't understand my humour.
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Perhaps you presented this from the wrong angle...
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Scientists do things, and philosophers talk about what they've done. Sweet.
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Hell, but they talk about it from a different angle!
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December 20, 2003, 10:42
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It makes him more marketable even though he could care less about philosophy and it is something he will never need or put on his CV
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I suspect most people do look at transcripts?
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