C3C PBEM Tournament - Page 14

Beta · January 17, 2004, 20:39

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Originally posted by E_T
I see that I need to point out a few things

First off, It's been a very rough last few months for me. ....

E_T - all the best, buddy. Take care.

(*Beta sees E_T's impressive contribution to the ISDG ina whole new light.)

And let's get the game going.

btw - is game 5 coming soon?

Harovan · January 17, 2004, 20:48

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Originally posted by Beta

I was sure E_T would at least talk with his favorite replacement, before he boots me. This way his attack doesn't make the least sense. Since OPD doesn't want to replace me, E_T should look for another player and ask him first before he launches the next wave.

E_T · January 17, 2004, 22:36

I had put OPD in to the slot, because he had posted that he would replace any players that had left. It was after that I had seen that he was placed in the rotation of another game

So, Sir Ralph, are you going to play or what? If so, you have the save and lets get cooking.

E_T

predesad · January 17, 2004, 22:48

One more time i woud like to ask Sir Ralph & E_T to put aside their differences, make peace and play the game. The tourney is bigger than you 2 players, however any further bickering could make it grievous for all of us. I am not a quitter by no means, I hate when someone quits, but i have honestly thought about getting someone to replace me because of not only this little spat, but also some other whining that has gone on. Please, dont take that comment as my saying i want to quit, what i am saying is all the whining, all the complaining, all the crying is making this tourney not fun for the peace loving religious farmers known as the Celts, we have yet to build a city and currently our thoughts have been on sailing away from this world to avoid it all, and we would do it if the world wasn't flat and we weren't afraid of falling off.

Harovan · January 17, 2004, 22:58

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Originally posted by E_T
I had put OPD in to the slot, because he had posted that he would replace any players that had left. It was after that I had seen that he was placed in the rotation of another game

So, Sir Ralph, are you going to play or what? If so, you have the save and lets get cooking.

E_T

I already sent it to Paddy a few hours ago. I wonder if you want to boot me again tomorrow.

Was quite an unfriendly surprise this morning.

BigFree · January 17, 2004, 23:11

I'm with predesad..Let's put it behind us and move onwards.

Wittlich · January 17, 2004, 23:20

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Originally posted by BigFree
I'm with predesad..Let's put it behind us and move onwards.

Here Here!

E_T · January 18, 2004, 00:35

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Originally posted by Sir Ralph

I already sent it to Paddy a few hours ago. I wonder if you want to boot me again tomorrow.

Was quite an unfriendly surprise this morning.

Good to hear, Sir Ralph. Let's play some civ!!!

E_T

Octavian X · January 18, 2004, 01:29

I'm glad this is being resolved.

Game 1 will likely be restarted with a new map only because of Rommel2D's mishap.
I can do nothing about seafaring civs being far from water. All the starts had to be preset to ensure that my slight editing was preserved. This would prevent the game itself from putting searfaring civs on the coast. Since we chose to pick civs randomly, my hands are tied.
Just find the ocean and build a city fast.

A new map will be made for Game 1 tomorrow.

Game 5 is still being delayed. Unless I'm much mistaken, I only have passwords from MasterZen, SAMUEL2904, and Beta. I'm still waiting, Arnelos.

predesad · January 18, 2004, 01:55

octavian, not 2 add 2 ur workload, but would it not b possible since u play / skip our first turns when u put in the passwords 2 check who is seafaring, and then if they are seafaring go back into the map, and edit it further to have their start coastal, would seem only fair since the game itself would have placed them there. after doing this, you could then choose our civs instead of going random again based upon what civs we were given initially? i think this is the only fair way to handle seafaring civs, especially since one of the advantages of beinf seafaring is a coastal start.

Rommel2D · January 18, 2004, 02:59

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Originally posted by Octavian X
I can do nothing about seafaring civs being far from water. All the starts had to be preset to ensure that my slight editing was preserved. This would prevent the game itself from putting searfaring civs on the coast. Since we chose to pick civs randomly, my hands are tied.

Having to locate the ocean before building your first city can be a pretty significant disadvantage. Isn't avoiding situations like this the only reason to have the first turn previewed at all? If there's no way for you to get seafaring civs on the coast, we actually have a better chance of a fair start without any moderation.

notyoueither · January 18, 2004, 04:13

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Originally posted by predesad
octavian, not 2 add 2 ur workload, but would it not b possible since u play / skip our first turns when u put in the passwords 2 check who is seafaring, and then if they are seafaring go back into the map, and edit it further to have their start coastal, would seem only fair since the game itself would have placed them there. after doing this, you could then choose our civs instead of going random again based upon what civs we were given initially? i think this is the only fair way to handle seafaring civs, especially since one of the advantages of beinf seafaring is a coastal start.

He has a point. The map is saved as a scenario, right?

Just restart if a Seafaring civ starts in the middle of Asia.

conmcb25 · January 18, 2004, 08:08

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Originally posted by Octavian X
Game 5 is still being delayed. Unless I'm much mistaken, I only have passwords from MasterZen, SAMUEL2904, and Beta. I'm still waiting, Arnelos.

Arny is gone until sometime monday or tuesday.

Iron Jackson · January 18, 2004, 08:56

@ E_T:

Impressive story. I´ve heard in the past weeks from some people who have been laid off / out of work and not all of them had such a positive attitude to do something to get a new job as you had. Respect. I wish you luck that you really can keep the job you´re now in although it´s quite uncomfortable to work at night.

Conqueror · January 18, 2004, 09:54

/edit: removed obsolete information

E_T · January 18, 2004, 10:48

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Originally posted by Iron Jackson
@ E_T:

Impressive story. I´ve heard in the past weeks from some people who have been laid off / out of work and not all of them had such a positive attitude to do something to get a new job as you had. Respect. I wish you luck that you really can keep the job you´re now in although it´s quite uncomfortable to work at night.

It's not nice out there right now. A lot of people have given up looking for a while, which would make the unemployment rate higher if they are.

I just heard about a groserystore chain that's shutting down and putting 3000 people (IIRC) out of work.

I'm very thankful to have what I can.

E_T

Rommel2D · January 18, 2004, 15:27

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Originally posted by Conqueror
I dont think anyone at game 1 objects this ?

That's fine by me.

predesad · January 18, 2004, 17:56

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I dont think anyone at game 1 objects this ?

no objections here.

Octavian X · January 18, 2004, 23:46

Game 1 people: Sorry, but I don't feel comfortable re-assigning the old civs. New map, new civs. I don't think it's fair to other tournament players, who all had their civs picked at random. They didn't get any special treatment when it came to the placement of their civs, seafaring or not.

Like I said, the only reason this game is being restarted at all is because Rommel2D accidentially saw what he wasn't supposed to see.

Luck of the draw, my friends.

I'm going to create your new map, but I won't send it off for 24 hours or so, just in case someone comes up with really good reason for me not to take the course of action I've already outlined.

predesad · January 18, 2004, 23:59

well, i disagree, but i defer 2 ur judgement even if i think it makes the game unfair

Soltz · January 18, 2004, 23:59

Hard life being a referee.

E_T · January 19, 2004, 00:10

That's why he gets payed the big donuts, to make the hard decisions....

/me gives OctX a baker's Dozen of Donuts

E_T

Rommel2D · January 19, 2004, 00:19

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Originally posted by Octavian X
I don't think it's fair to other tournament players, who all had their civs picked at random. They didn't get any special treatment when it came to the placement of their civs, seafaring or not.

No, it isn't fair that some players were given civs with a trait made weak to start with due to map settings, then additionally stripped of one it's benefits. I guess the important thing is that the games are started...

Adagio · January 19, 2004, 06:21

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Originally posted by Octavian X
Game 1 people: Sorry, but I don't feel comfortable re-assigning the old civs. New map, new civs. I don't think it's fair to other tournament players, who all had their civs picked at random. They didn't get any special treatment when it came to the placement of their civs, seafaring or not.

I don't object... as I mentioned in the other thread: I wouldn't mind getting some really crappy civ, as long it's not the you-know-what-civ

Arnelos · January 20, 2004, 00:32

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Originally posted by Octavian X
Game 5 is still being delayed. Unless I'm much mistaken, I only have passwords from MasterZen, SAMUEL2904, and Beta. I'm still waiting, Arnelos.

Sorry, didn't realize that I needed to get this to you. Sending now.

EDIT: sent

Octavian X · January 20, 2004, 01:56

OK, Games 1 and 5 have been sent. good luck, and have fun!

BTW - Anyone think we should try to advertise our little tournament? Fill out a few more games?

Paddy · January 20, 2004, 02:17

um, hi there,

how many games would you like to have here?

Adagio · January 20, 2004, 07:05

I don't think we should do some more advertising, otherwise the final game would be a battle of 8 players...

Maybe we could start a second tournament for those who didn't make it to Tournament one, but I don't think we should start that one before this tournament has been started....

Adagio · January 20, 2004, 09:09

And Game 1 has been restarted:

ADG: Arabia
Conqueror: Egypts
Rommel2D: Spanish
Predesad: Portuguese

Arnelos · January 20, 2004, 17:36

Game #5 now has its own thread.