Thread Tools
Old December 23, 2003, 16:45   #31
st_swithin
CTP1/2 GODDESS
 
Local Time: 15:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: 10069
Posts: 198
They should go open source. (Oh, never mind that it doesn't make sense!)
st_swithin is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 16:49   #32
General Ludd
NationStates
Emperor
 
General Ludd's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Minion of the Dominion
Posts: 4,607
Quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Downloading shows could be trying to go around cable and premium bills by DLing those shows.
And if cable didn't have so many commercials, they might actually have a valid point. As it is, though, cable is a much bigger theft then downloading a TV show will ever be.
__________________
Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

Do It Ourselves
General Ludd is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 16:52   #33
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
And if cable didn't have so many commercials, they might actually have a valid point. As it is, though, cable is a much bigger theft then downloading a TV show will ever be.
There is only one response to this:
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 16:54   #34
Arrian
PtWDG Gathering StormInterSite Democracy Game: Apolyton TeamApolyton UniversityC4DG Gathering StormPtWDG2 Cake or Death?
Deity
 
Arrian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Kneel before Grog!
Posts: 17,978
Hence his smilie at the end, I think. A non-essential service like cable TV simply cannot be theft.

-Arrian
__________________
grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.
Arrian is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 16:56   #35
General Ludd
NationStates
Emperor
 
General Ludd's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Minion of the Dominion
Posts: 4,607
Quote:
Originally posted by Arrian
Hence his smilie at the end, I think. A non-essential service like cable TV simply cannot be theft.

-Arrian
No, I mean it. It's theft. They're robbing the poor suckers who subscribe for that crap of their money, and giving them nothing but channels they don't want and hours and hours of ****ing commercials cloging up the few programs they do want.

There was a time when cable had no commercials, and that was their justification for charging money. What happened to that?
__________________
Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

Do It Ourselves
General Ludd is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 16:59   #36
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
They're robbing the poor suckers who subscribe for that crap of their money, and giving them nothing but channels they don't want and hours and hours of ****ing commercials cloging up the few programs they do want.
How can they be robbing people when they are willingly paying money for those channels?

Quote:
There was a time when cable had no commercials, and that was their justification for charging money. What happened to that?
TV costs more know. They also need to show commericals to pay for their shows... which are much better than broadcast and I'll happily pay for it.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:00   #37
Arrian
PtWDG Gathering StormInterSite Democracy Game: Apolyton TeamApolyton UniversityC4DG Gathering StormPtWDG2 Cake or Death?
Deity
 
Arrian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Kneel before Grog!
Posts: 17,978
Osweld, that's just nuts. You don't have to pay for cable if you don't want to. It's ENTIRELY YOUR CHOICE. As such, it cannot be theft.

-Arrian
__________________
grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.
Arrian is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:02   #38
Dis
ACDG3 SpartansC4DG Vox
Deity
 
Dis's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 17,354
I like all 3 stars. And I like commentary, but it really isn't why I would buy a DVD. In fact I have yet to buy a tv series DVD. I may buy family guy and Sopranos. And band of brothers maybe. I meant to tape Band of Brothers from HBO, but keep forgetting. And I want to tape them in order.

I heard on the Family Guy some controversial scenes were cut I saw this at a fan site. That was the best part of the show. All the Hitler scenes were fantastic. Hitler belongs in any comedy cartoon series.


Before I buy Seinfeld I have to be assured everything is there. There is one specific episode that was never shown on NBC again and I don't think was released in syndication. It was the episode in which they burned the puerto rican flag. NBC got many, many complaints about that episode. but it was a fairly funny episode. I'd like to see it again.
__________________
Focus, discipline
Barack Obama- the antichrist
Dis is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:03   #39
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
I heard on the Family Guy some controversial scenes were cut
Only one episode... which is now on the Vol 2 set, I think. It is still controversial, Dissident.

Quote:
There is one specific episode that was never shown on NBC again and I don't think was released in syndication. It was the episode in which they burned the puerto rican flag.
Actually, after a while, they did show it in syndication.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:04   #40
General Ludd
NationStates
Emperor
 
General Ludd's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Minion of the Dominion
Posts: 4,607
Quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

How can they be robbing people when they are willingly paying money for those channels?
Mere technicality.

Quote:
TV costs more know. They also need to show commericals to pay for their shows... which are much better than broadcast and I'll happily pay for it.
If it costs more, it's only because they've made it cost more. They can pay for their shows with the subsriber fees. Maybe it'll mean a few less moronic sit-coms and specialty channels, but that'd be an improvement if you ask me.

By the way, virtually everything on cable outside of the more obscure speciality channels and pay-per-view gets broadcast eventually.
__________________
Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

Do It Ourselves
General Ludd is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:08   #41
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
Mere technicality.


Quote:
If it costs more, it's only because they've made it cost more. They can pay for their shows with the subsriber fees. Maybe it'll mean a few less moronic sit-coms and specialty channels, but that'd be an improvement if you ask me.
Subscriber fees?! So the cable bill jumps to $5/channel?!! The reason cable is relatively cheap per channel compared to subscriber fee channels is because they are packaged together as a set (so you are pay $1 or less for every channel you get on cable).

And it costs more because cable TV these days have much better shows with higher production values. Just look at 'Monk' and 'The Dead Zone' on USA. Look at 'Nip/Tuck' on FX, etc.

Quote:
By the way, virtually everything on cable outside of the more obscure speciality channels and pay-per-view gets broadcast eventually.
That is such BS. Do you even watch cable? Not a single episode of South Park was 'broadcast', and that's on a major Comedy Central. MXC has never been 'broadcast'. The Daily Show has never been 'broadcast'. All are on cable and will stay there.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:08   #42
Arrian
PtWDG Gathering StormInterSite Democracy Game: Apolyton TeamApolyton UniversityC4DG Gathering StormPtWDG2 Cake or Death?
Deity
 
Arrian's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Kneel before Grog!
Posts: 17,978
Quote:
Mere technicality.
__________________
grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.
Arrian is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:12   #43
General Ludd
NationStates
Emperor
 
General Ludd's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Minion of the Dominion
Posts: 4,607
Quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
So the cable bill jumps to $5/channel?!!
That would make it cheaper for me. (If I stilll subscribed to cable)




Quote:
That is such BS. Do you even watch cable? Not a single episode of South Park was 'broadcast', and that's on a major Comedy Central. MXC has never been 'broadcast'. The Daily Show has never been 'broadcast'. All are on cable and will stay there.
Every episode of Southpark has been broadcast in Canada. Possibly the Daily Show, aswell - they pick up alot of shows like that, anyways. I don't know what MXC is.
__________________
Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

Do It Ourselves
General Ludd is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:13   #44
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
Every episode of Southpark has been broadcast in Canada. Possibly the Daily Show, aswell - they pick up alot of shows like that, anyways.
That's because your national channels buy American cable network shows... like the BBC does.

American networks don't buy cable channel shows. Why would cable networks sell it to them? They are competing against the networks!
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:22   #45
Az
Emperor
 
Local Time: 18:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: A pub.
Posts: 3,161
Holy ****ing ****! Your cables have commercials?!

thank you, government regulation.
__________________
urgh.NSFW
Az is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:23   #46
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
Holy ****ing ****! Your cables have commercials?!
Yes.

The only channels without commericals are premium channels. I'm willing to have commericals to be able to watch quality programming on cable.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:28   #47
GhengisFarb™
lifer
Civilization III Democracy GamePtWDG Glory of WarCivilization II Democracy GameCivilization III PBEMC3C IDG: Apolyton TeamCiv4 SP Democracy Game
Deity
 
GhengisFarb™'s Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 11,289
Quote:
Originally posted by The Mad Monk


You're paying by viewing commercials.
So if I get up during the commercials to make a sandwich I am stealing from them?

Crud, I can hear the tv police squad division of the Mattress Tag Police coming to get me..................
GhengisFarb™ is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:29   #48
General Ludd
NationStates
Emperor
 
General Ludd's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Minion of the Dominion
Posts: 4,607
Quote:
Originally posted by Azazel
Holy ****ing ****! Your cables have commercials?!

thank you, government regulation.
First that bit about ATMs not charging extra money, and now this.

How could anyone possibly call jews greedy?
__________________
Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

Do It Ourselves
General Ludd is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:32   #49
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
How could anyone possibly call jews greedy?
Because they won't share that with anyone else .

And doesn't Canada have free ATMs? I mean they aren't that common in US, but they exist.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:38   #50
GhengisFarb™
lifer
Civilization III Democracy GamePtWDG Glory of WarCivilization II Democracy GameCivilization III PBEMC3C IDG: Apolyton TeamCiv4 SP Democracy Game
Deity
 
GhengisFarb™'s Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 11,289
Quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I mean they aren't that common in US, but they exist.
Really? I see ATMs everywhere. Heck, looking out my window I see 9, no 12, no make that 16 of the little rascals............
GhengisFarb™ is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:39   #51
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
I see ATMs everywhere.
FREE ATMs... free is the operative word. The ones that don't charge you anything for taking money out.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:42   #52
General Ludd
NationStates
Emperor
 
General Ludd's Avatar
 
Local Time: 15:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Minion of the Dominion
Posts: 4,607
Quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

And doesn't Canada have free ATMs? I mean they aren't that common in US, but they exist.
Actually, What Azazel mentioned was that they don't charge extra money for using an ATM from another bank.
__________________
Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

Do It Ourselves
General Ludd is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:43   #53
Dis
ACDG3 SpartansC4DG Vox
Deity
 
Dis's Avatar
 
Local Time: 08:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 17,354
I use the ATM at my own bank.

It's not a good idea to use ATM's everywhere. Organized crime is now buying ATM's and collecting account number and pin numbers of thousands of people who use them. Then over a 24 hour period they withdraw millions of dollars.

ATM's can be bougth by anyone. I could buy an ATM and hook it up. And then steal people's account numbers and PIN numbers.
__________________
Focus, discipline
Barack Obama- the antichrist
Dis is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:45   #54
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
What Azazel mentioned was that they don't charge extra money for using an ATM from another bank.
Ah, some banks/credit unions do that. You just have to find the right one.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:46   #55
GhengisFarb™
lifer
Civilization III Democracy GamePtWDG Glory of WarCivilization II Democracy GameCivilization III PBEMC3C IDG: Apolyton TeamCiv4 SP Democracy Game
Deity
 
GhengisFarb™'s Avatar
 
Local Time: 09:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 11,289
Quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
The ones that don't charge you anything for taking money out.
Canada must rock! If I can go to a Canadian ATM, withdraw $60 from my checking account and not have the ATM take the $60 out of my account.........

No wonder all the Liberals are heading north, it the land of free for all welfare!
GhengisFarb™ is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:49   #56
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698


Charging you for taking money out and taking the money out are two different things entirely.
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:49   #57
Az
Emperor
 
Local Time: 18:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: A pub.
Posts: 3,161
Quote:
-How could anyone possibly call jews greedy?

-Because they won't share that with anyone else.

Best laugh I had all day.

Seriously: the cable companies are screwing you over, people. It's time to fix the wrongs in your telecoms: I heard you pay for incoming calls as well.
__________________
urgh.NSFW
Az is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:52   #58
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
the cable companies are screwing you over, people.
How are they screwing me over. My cable bill is lower because there are commericals. My bill is already expensive enough... I don't need it to cost more .

Quote:
It's time to fix the wrongs in your telecoms: I heard you pay for incoming calls as well
In what country? I get all my local calls for free and don't pay for incoming calls. Or do you mean cell phone users get charged minutes for incoming calls?
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:54   #59
Az
Emperor
 
Local Time: 18:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: A pub.
Posts: 3,161
Quote:
In what country? I get all my local calls for free and don't pay for incoming calls. Or do you mean cell phone users get charged minutes for incoming calls?
Cellphones, of course. wait, is there any other kind?
__________________
urgh.NSFW
Az is offline  
Old December 23, 2003, 17:55   #60
Imran Siddiqui
staff
Apolytoners Hall of FameAge of Nations TeamPolyCast Team
 
Imran Siddiqui's Avatar
 
Local Time: 11:03
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: on the corner of Peachtree and Peachtree
Posts: 30,698
Quote:
Cellphones, of course. wait, is there any other kind?
Yeah, those that don't have those annoying hand-held noise makers .

Land lines are the way to go. If I ain't in, then I don't need to talk to you that bad .
__________________
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Imran Siddiqui is offline  
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:03.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Apolyton Civilization Site | Copyright © The Apolyton Team