Space Empires

Space05us · December 24, 2003, 01:08

fun game (super old though) its too bad they still want $25 to register it, did any of you guys ever bother to register?

Is Masters of Orion anything like it?

quantum_mechani · December 24, 2003, 01:37

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Originally posted by Space05us

fun game (super old though)

Actually, I don't think the most recent version (Space Empires IV Gold) is any older than Civ III.

Space05us · December 24, 2003, 01:38

didnt realise there was a IV, Ive been playing III all day.

Sarxis · December 24, 2003, 01:57

IV is great. There's also a Play-by-web online site that helps regulate email games through the net.

Some really good mods for it are available too.

vmxa1 · December 24, 2003, 03:16

I have a registered version of III and I have the Gold version of IV. Aaron is working on V now.

It is some what similar to Moo. It is a 4x tbs space game, but SE has a lot more tech and weapons. There are mods for Se as well.

Space05us · December 24, 2003, 04:10

whats 4x?

Spaced Cowboy · December 24, 2003, 10:39

explore, expand, exploit, exterminate.

child of Thor · December 24, 2003, 11:47

Its been in the back of my mind for a while now to get this game, but now with GalCiv out i'm not sure i would want both........which one would people recomend?

Space05us · December 24, 2003, 12:43

ehehe, space answered my question, thats cool.

vmxa1 · December 24, 2003, 13:44

child of Thor that is hard to say. both games are well done and maintained. I liked both, but was not in love with Galciv.

SE4 has a hands on tactical combat system. It also offers a combat tester. This is where you can design a ship and pit it against any design you know about to see how it would fare.
I used that in my first game to see what I need to stop losing battles.

You can sometimes find Galciv in stores at a discount and in the resale pile. SE is not in retail stores and I have never seen it for resale. This means it is hard to get it cheap.

Sarxis · December 24, 2003, 17:11

SEV, is it a new 4x, or is it that 'Imperium Galactica I' type game? You know, where we are a space captain or some dumb thing. >:|

vmxa1 · December 24, 2003, 18:14

I don't know at this time. I saw an interview on one of the game sites, but Aaron has not posted anything yet.

I hope it is a new 4X TBS, I think he mentioned using some 3D graphics. but I may be confused.

quantum_mechani · December 24, 2003, 22:49

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Originally posted by Anun Ik Oba
SEV, is it a new 4x, or is it that 'Imperium Galactica I' type game? You know, where we are a space captain or some dumb thing. >:|

You're likely confusing it with Space Empires: Starfury which is a RPG. I'm almost certain SE V is 4X.

vmxa1 · December 25, 2003, 03:15

Starfury is our and is an RPG in space. SEV is not out and is only annouced by Shrapnel Games. It is same as all SE game, with some form of 3D. I found a blurp with Google.

Space05us · December 26, 2003, 19:08

so would you guys say that if I enjoy SEIII, SEIV is worth buying?

Sarxis · December 26, 2003, 21:17

Thanx for clarifying that.

I never played SEIII, so I don't know how the two compare. I can't imagine SEIV not living up to it.

Space05us · December 27, 2003, 02:21

I just want to know if its worth paying for the "extra" features if there even are any, I wouldn't want to spend $20 on better graphics (that would be such a horrible waste)

vmxa1 · December 27, 2003, 04:07

I am not sure, since in some respecs it is very much like SEIII, with better graphics. One thing I actually asked Aaron for was the ability to turn off spying and he put it in. I must have sent him a ton of emails about the log going to the top after you goto to any other screen and he finally fixed that it. This helps a lot with long logs. Many techs can be turned off. I think they have a demo, so give that a try.

Sarxis · December 27, 2003, 04:52

Plus like I said, there's an active PBEM community for IV. That alone might be worth the extra money spent, if you like multiplaying.

VetLegion · December 28, 2003, 21:06

Would any of you take a look at my sig and perhaps take time to compose the table data for SE IV? I had the game but I haven't had the time to play it, so I know virtually nothing about it.

vmxa1 · December 28, 2003, 23:46

Not sure what you are looking for but here is the web site for it and many fan/review links are there.

http://www.malfador.com/se4.html

Lemmy · December 29, 2003, 06:20

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Originally posted by VetLegion
Would any of you take a look at my sig and perhaps take time to compose the table data for SE IV? I had the game but I haven't had the time to play it, so I know virtually nothing about it.

Here ya go..

Design own units/ships: Yes
Penalty when switching production: Yes, you lose ALL production spent on the previous project
Settler / Colonist unit cost: Depends on the design
Complex or simplistic combat model: Complex
Stacked combat: Yes
Special unit for terrain improvement: There aren't exactly terrain improvements, but you can build a unit that can construct things on the map, like space stations

Types of diplomatic deals available
(Tribute, Peace, Trade Items, Declare war on X, Movement rights..):
Different kind of treaties (Non-agression to Alliance)
Can trade techs, units, planets, resources
Can demand war declarations or request Empire A to make peace with Empire B (IIRC)
Multilateral diplomacy (UN, Planetary Council, etc... exists?): No
Government types: No
Internal politics (Parties, senate, social engineering): None except planet happiness
Unhapiness managment: Increase Planet Conditions

Grid type: Square
ICS (Infinite city spread) solutions: Limited places to colonize depending on your home planets atmosphere and colonization tech
City/Base Radius (Is it constant or expands, how many tiles does it include, or is it non existand - Point based, like with planets): Point based, planets
Can build bases on (Land, Water, Space, Underground): Space Stations can be built in any sector

Type of tech research: There is a tech tree, up to 12 hand-picked items can be researched at a time. Tech rate can be set as a game setting at the start.
Number of techs that can be researched : A lot

Replay available when game ends?: Don't know
Animated units: Yes

City/Base Governors: Yes
Do different Leader AI personalities exist?: Yes

What kinds of victory are possible?(Diplomatic, Conquest, Technology, Build project): Don't remember exactly...conquest and diplomatic at least.

Scripting, custom units, graphics, custom AI behaviour...: Game data is in normal txt-files, can easily be edited. AI behaviour can also be modified in txt-files, custom units and graphics are possible.
Scenarios and mods in existance: Many

Game length in turns on standars settings: Dunno
Multiplayer options (PBEM, Hotseat, one-on-one. How many max players?): PBEM, Hotseat (and i think also LAN), up to 20 players IIRC.
Difficulty levels: AI bonus and AI difficulty can be set to 3 different levels, so 9 in total
Maximum number of civilizations in any game session (pick from how many?): 20
Unique Civ abilites: Yes, can be customized greatly
Unique Civ units: Indirectly, yes. Empire can pick 1 out of 5 racial traits, which gives them access to unique Racial Techs which can be used to build unique racial units

VetLegion · December 29, 2003, 11:19

Thanks Lemmy

Spaced Cowboy · December 29, 2003, 11:55

You should also visit the shrapnelgames web site. They have an extensive forum for this game, SEIV.

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