Dope: Should it be legalised. - Page 2

Sava · December 27, 2003, 02:14

cat fight...

MEOW!

Harry Tuttle · December 27, 2003, 02:15

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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
"Alcohol has its own culture"

Does it? I was under the impression that it was a world-wide thing. Irish and their Whiskey, Italians and French and their wines, Japanese with their saki, Americans with our piss.

College is one, small part of the entire alcohol-consuming society, of which you find after college. College is an abnormality, because in college its as if you're out of the control of police, parents, etc.

As far as validating a culture...sure, why not? So what if someone is of the opinion that pot elevates consciousness? Its an opinion, which even non-pot smokers can have.

Ok, I agree. I have no more arguments. If it were legalized though I would want some decent laws on its use. Such as smoking in designated areas such as what Amsterdam (?) has, smoking while driving, carcinogen levels in the pot sold (similar to what we have in cigs). Also, I think that pot does have a tar level close, if not more than tobacco. I agree with the "tar in the pipe" notion mentioned above.

Harry Tuttle · December 27, 2003, 02:17

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Originally posted by Oncle Boris

Sorry. I swear, when I started writing my post, I hadn't seen your other replies. Looks like I've been rude without reason.

Accept my apologies and know that I'll never flame you just because your are well... you.

And oh, feel free to end the discussion stopped by Ming with a PM. I may not have been a gentleman, but you must understand that your constant denial of what was an obvious police abuse just irated me.

EDIT: i love your new sig!

Apology accepted. Now pass the doobie.

The Emperor Fabulous · December 27, 2003, 02:19

Damn it...you're not supposed to agree with me. You're supposed to go off on some extreme troll/rant in which you proclaim marijuana to be the spawn of Satan, and I'm supposed to bring in arguments from obscure sources that are totally unrelated yet somehow prove a strange point, to which you're supposed to insult my penis size.

You're not very good at this game.

Kuciwalker · December 27, 2003, 02:20

no banana = no good poll

Harry Tuttle · December 27, 2003, 02:20

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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
Damn it...you're not supposed to agree with me. You're supposed to go off on some extreme troll/rant in which you proclaim marijuana to be the spawn of Satan, and I'm supposed to bring in arguments from obscure sources that are totally unrelated yet somehow prove a strange point, to which you're supposed to insult my penis size.

You're not very good at this game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mines bigger.

Sava · December 27, 2003, 02:21

you have an ant penis... happy now EmpFab?

The Emperor Fabulous · December 27, 2003, 02:24

My night is now complete

. Have a good night and enjoy the ranting.

P.S.: Ants can lift 50 times their weight. Ask a woman if she's not satisfied while held up in the air solely by my johnson.

Sava · December 27, 2003, 02:26

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P.S.: Ants can lift 50 times their weight. Ask a woman if she's not satisfied while held up in the air solely by my johnson.

because they are small...

because mass exponentially increases in proportion to volume, ants the size of humans would probably be crushed by their own body weight.

food for thought antpenisboy

mrmitchell · December 27, 2003, 02:27

I don't care about the health things. The government has NO right to tell me how I can and can't **** up my body.

Flip McWho · December 27, 2003, 02:32

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no banana = no good poll

Yeah sorry bout that. I did intend to include a banana option but I hit the bloody enter key again. For some reason I was thinking it was the tab key and automatically hit it.

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If it were legalized though I would want some decent laws on its use. Such as smoking in designated areas such as what Amsterdam (?) has, smoking while driving, carcinogen levels in the pot sold (similar to what we have in cigs). Also, I think that pot does have a tar level close, if not more than tobacco. I agree with the "tar in the pipe" notion mentioned above.

Yeah i agree with this whole thing. Well the whole thing about the laws concerned with it. I don't know anything about the tar level I'm just too lazy to delete that part of the quote

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Oh a link some of you might be interested in:
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/mjfaq1.htm

Flip McWho · December 27, 2003, 02:34

Also about what constitutes a pot smoker. Ummmm wouldn't know exactly. Somebody who smokes it on a regular base. Yeah I know, now define regular. Ummmm how bout somebody who has a joint a day kinda thing. Hmmmm maybe less than that. I don't know, anyone have any suggestions?

Harry Tuttle I also don't like the culture that goes with it. The hippy culture. But again, that doesn't necessarily mean that all pot smokers are hippies.

Harry Tuttle · December 27, 2003, 02:44

Thoughts on the website posted:

Amotivational Syndrome - Kids, don't do drugs. If pot is legalized make the smoking age 18 or above so that growth development isn't f'd up.

Harry Tuttle · December 27, 2003, 02:46

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Originally posted by Flip McWho
Also about what constitutes a pot smoker. Ummmm wouldn't know exactly. Somebody who smokes it on a regular base. Yeah I know, now define regular. Ummmm how bout somebody who has a joint a day kinda thing. Hmmmm maybe less than that. I don't know, anyone have any suggestions?

Harry Tuttle I also don't like the culture that goes with it. The hippy culture. But again, that doesn't necessarily mean that all pot smokers are hippies.

Duh to my last post. I would say a pot smoker is someone who does it at least once a week. A regular routine like that would constitute being a "smoker". Any less than that and your just someone who likes to experiment once and awhile.

Flip McWho · December 27, 2003, 02:52

Yeah I'd say the age would defintely be 18 at least. Could you imagine it, kids are able to smoke dope before they can touch alcohol or ciggerattes.

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I don't care about the health things. The government has NO right to tell me how I can and can't **** up my body.

Ummmmm the government does have a right if it's using my tax money to look after your sorry arse after your've gone and stuffed it up.

Sava · December 27, 2003, 02:53

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Ummmmm the government does have a right if it's using my tax money to look after your sorry arse after your've gone and stuffed it up.

sorry safety nazi... it doesn't

btw how many people a year die of marijuana? they don't even have statistics for that! AND THEY AHVE STATISTICS FOR EVERYYYYYTHIGN!

TWINKIES KILL MORE PEOPLE A YEAR THAN POT! SHOULD WE BAN THOASE!?

Harry Tuttle · December 27, 2003, 02:56

Gary Oldman, now I am scared....

Flip McWho · December 27, 2003, 02:56

What does the government use to pay for health services?

If your talking about private health care in which u pay then you can stuff yourself up as much as you wish.

Yeah apparently it's next to impossible to OD on dope.

Sava · December 27, 2003, 02:57

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Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
Gary Oldman, now I am scared....

you better be, he's ****ing bad ass

Kuciwalker · December 27, 2003, 02:58

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Originally posted by mrmitchell
I don't care about the health things. The government has NO right to tell me how I can and can't **** up my body.

How about this then - pot et al are legal, but anyone who uses them forgoes all right to medicare?

Sava · December 27, 2003, 02:58

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Originally posted by Flip McWho
What does the government use to pay for health services?

If your talking about private health care in which u pay then you can stuff yourself up as much as you wish.

Yeah apparently it's next to impossible to OD on dope.

plus, more of your tax dollars are going to corporate profits (a useless and inefficient expense) than to expenses incurred because of marijuana

Sava · December 27, 2003, 03:00

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Originally posted by skywalker

How about this then - pot et al are legal, but anyone who uses them forgoes all right to medicare?

or better yet... PAYS EXPENSE FROM MARIJUANA USAGE

there's no reasons someone shouldn't be covered under a national health care plan for other things just because they smoke pot... what are there going to be exemptions for people who are fat as all ****ing hell? the cheeseburger and fries exemption? what about the jack daniels exemption? or the BACON AND TEN POUNDS OF EGGS AND BUTTER BECAUSE YOU EAT TOO ****IGN MUCH EXPENSE?

Kuciwalker · December 27, 2003, 03:02

Why should the government have to determine what is from marijuana usage and what isn't? If you want to fvck up your body, don't expect ANY sympathy from me.

Sava · December 27, 2003, 03:03

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Originally posted by skywalker
Why should the government have to determine what is from marijuana usage and what isn't? If you want to fvck up your body, don't expect ANY sympathy from me.

DUH!

if you are saying people should no be covered by a national health plan because their detrimental behavior is costing YOU money... don't you think you should SHOW THAT IT IS COSTING YOU MONEY?!

what about people who get hurt skateboarding or playing sports? that is an activity where injuries cost more money than marijuana usage?

your argument makes no sense young padawan

Kuciwalker · December 27, 2003, 03:06

Marijuana (except for an EXTREMELY LIMITED medical application) can basically do nothing but f*** up your body. You want to do it, fine with me. Someone who plays sports can expect to get a physical benefit from it. If someone smokes all their life and gets lung cancer, hey, it's THEIR FAULT. If you drink yourself to death, it's YOUR FAULT. Don't make ME pay.

Sava · December 27, 2003, 03:09

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Marijuana (except for an EXTREMELY LIMITED medical application) can basically do nothing but f*** up your body.

yeah... so if it is costing you money... PROVE FOR IT

and what does it matter if playing sports gets a benefit from it?

that still doesn't address the issue of eating too much salt, eating too much Burger King and Taco Bell, drinking too much caffeine, X-treme sports,

what? should laziness make people ineligible for a national health care plan? inactivity and lack of exercise is perhaps the greatest health risk to America!!!!!

your **** doesn't fly skywalker... not even if you put wings on it, strap it to a rocket, or throw it in the air... it just hits you in the face

Sava · December 27, 2003, 03:12

and BTW, why should someone not be cared for if they get a broken leg or something just because they smoke pot? I'm just curious... I mean, the broken leg has nothing to do with smoking pot (unless their dopey high asses fall down some ****ing stairs... but assuming that isn't the case)

and home accidents are a big cost to health care... should clumsy people not be covered as well?

that's the whole point of health care and a society with a social conscience... THE STRONG/RICH/ABLE BODIED care for the weak/less fortunate/sick... even if they are selfish ****s and don't want to.

Flip McWho · December 27, 2003, 03:12

Besides if your playing sport and you get one of those sore knees (sport injury) that stick around for ever then you didn't get a benefit from it did you.

Kuciwalker · December 27, 2003, 03:13

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Originally posted by Sava
yeah... so if it is costing you money... PROVE FOR IT

and what does it matter if playing sports gets a benefit from it?

that still doesn't address the issue of eating too much salt, eating too much Burger King and Taco Bell, drinking too much caffeine, X-treme sports,

what? should laziness make people ineligible for a national health care plan? inactivity and lack of exercise is perhaps the greatest health risk to America!!!!!

your **** doesn't fly skywalker... not even if you put wings on it, strap it to a rocket, or throw it in the air... it just hits you in the face

You are just asking for the freedom to do it without any real worry for the consequences. No. It's your choice, yes, but you can't expect others to bear the burden of it.

Flip McWho · December 27, 2003, 03:14

ha speaking of falling.

I once got high and we were up this kinda hill thingy. Well I happened to take the quick way down once I got half way down again. Hurt like a ***** I tell you. I landed on my feet after falling about 3 metres, maybe a bit less. Didn't go to a doctor though.