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Old January 8, 2004, 05:35   #301
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There were iirc norwegian rescue teams ready to go in immediately, but nooo, Norway is NATO, nyet nyet nyet.
Oi da ladno, kogo by oni tam spasli. Nu nemogli nikakie NATO'vzi tam nikogo spasti, prosto potomu, chto oni by nikogda vnutr' ne popali. Chtoby popast' nado bylo sostykovat'sya so shluzom hvostovogo oseka, a diametr etoi durki u nashih lodok i u nato'vskih lodok raznui. Edinogo mirovogo standarta v etom plane eshe ne sushestvuyet, poetomu ot inostrannyh spasateley- tolku nikakogo.
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Well, with that same ABM treaty the ABM ring around Moscow and the radar array in Siberia were thought to be technical violations back in the 80's.
It wasn't a violation. It was part of the treaty- we have anti-ballistic defense around Moscow, you keep your hardware in Alaska.

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I suppose little was made of it because all of it had a less chance of working than anything we could come up with.

It protects Moscow from simulatious strike of ten ICBMs. I doubt you have something so workable.
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Only in Russia.
No, in any country (including USA) a person who betrayed this country by sharing secret information with another country, considering as traitor and criminal.

You never knew this?
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It protects Moscow from simulatious strike of ten ICBMs. I doubt you have something so workable.
Shall we put that to the test?
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No, in any country (including USA) a person who betrayed this country by sharing secret information with another country, considering as traitor and criminal.

You never knew this?
Well yes. What I meant was that it isn't a crime to betray Russia anywhere but Russia.
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Oi da ladno, kogo by oni tam spasli. Nu nemogli nikakie NATO'vzi tam nikogo spasti, prosto potomu, chto oni by nikogda vnutr' ne popali. Chtoby popast' nado bylo sostykovat'sya so shluzom hvostovogo oseka, a diametr etoi durki u nashih lodok i u nato'vskih lodok raznui. Edinogo mirovogo standarta v etom plane eshe ne sushestvuyet, poetomu ot inostrannyh spasateley- tolku nikakogo.
You never know until you try. you can make some "pribumbas" out of rubber in order to fit in no time. It just breaks my heart remembering all these wives and mothers and children weeping their eyes out. There's something special about grieving Russian women.
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Shall we put that to the test?
You never had balls for that. What makes you think you have them now?
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You never had balls for that. What makes you think you have them now?
I have the balls. I'd be surprised if your missles could still get off the ground.
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You never know until you try. you can make some "pribumbas" out of rubber in order to fit in no time. It just breaks my heart remembering all these wives and mothers and children weeping their eyes out. There's something special about grieving Russian women.
As for "pribumbases", you know, rubber it's not a proper material. Kursk laid below 100+ meters of water. The pressure would simply destroy it, esp. consider the temperature of water. To bring NATO's life saving equipment and Russian life saving equipment to the same standard requires a lot of time. It can't be done within few days. The operation was extremly dangerous even with sandartized euipment (when both enterance to resque chamber of Kursk and enterance to resque bridge (damn, I don't know English word for this thing) of resque sub have the same diameter). Even if NATO's resque equipment was somehow adopted for Russian standard, I highly doubt any NATO's sailor would risk his neck and enter this untested, just modified equipment.
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I have the balls. I'd be surprised if your missles could still get off the ground.
Then come and get us. I'm sure you will be surprised.
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Well yes. What I meant was that it isn't a crime to betray Russia anywhere but Russia.
But you can't betray Russia if you're not Russian.
As well as I can't betray USA, because I'm not American.
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Even if NATO's resque equipment was somehow adopted for Russian standard, I highly doubt any NATO's sailor would risk his neck and enter this untested, just modified equipment.
Obviously you were never in the Navy. A sailor will risk himself for another sailor (even a Russian) in an emergency such as this. For us this transcends political concerns.
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Then come and get us. I'm sure you will be surprised.
I like it better when they try to fight back.
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But you can't betray Russia if you're not Russian.
As well as I can't betray USA, because I'm not American.
I still have to salute the courage of the Russians who stand up for what is right despite their country's beliefs.
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After all this talk about your superior equipment tell me how that west german guy was able to land at the red square despite your 'we take over the world with these'-air defences
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Obviously you were never in the Navy. A sailor will risk himself for another sailor (even a Russian) in an emergency such as this. For us this transcends political concerns.
You're right I never was in the Navy, but one thing is to risk your life for someone and another thing is to commit suicide for someone.
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I like it better when they try to fight back.
Try it, we will fight back...even more...actually, we will bury you.

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Nah Rooskies have good air defense.. it's a fact. That's about only thing I'm willing to admit. Good air defense and good fighters, though I say the pilots are not the best because of the lack of flying hours. Good planes, good air defense. But that takes you somewhere already.
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After all this talk about your superior equipment tell me how that west german guy was able to land at the red square despite your 'we take over the world with these'-air defences
It's a long story. He was tracked, but wasn't shot down. If we would shot him down what you'll be saying now? that evil Russkies killed another innocent soul?
Anyhow our air defence was greatly improved because of this case. Thanks to this fellow... ... don't remember his name.
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You're right I never was in the Navy, but one thing is to risk your life for someone and another thing is to commit suicide for someone.
The concept of honor appears to be lacking in Russia.
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