Help with XP

Ming · January 3, 2004, 14:54

I just got a new computer with Windows XP running on it. I'm on a cable modem. I can't host games. I can join other people's games, but I can't host. This wasn't a problem before I got the new machine.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

rah · January 3, 2004, 17:14

The standard Dr. Spike response to this question.

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Originally posted by DrSpike
Eyes: You need to open and redirect packets arriving on port 4993 to your machine. Otherwise when you host the client will return data, it will get to the router, and it will be blocked, and not know where to go anyway.

You will need to know what IP the router has assigned your machine on the LAN, and the external IP of the router (this is probably static, but might change from time to time depending on your ISP). Then you need to go into the router configuration utility (probably browser based) and look for things like port redirection, or network address and port translation, anything that sounds like that. Then tell the router to forward all packets arriving externally on port 4993 to whatever the internal IP of your machine is.

In the meantime you can of course play games (when you are the client the connection is made outbound and the firewall will not block the packets, and will know exactly where to send them), you just cannot host.

rah · January 3, 2004, 17:15

Show that to Benji when he comes over the next time.

Ming · January 3, 2004, 18:18

Since I have no clue what he is talking about, I will indeed show to my wife and Alexia... I might have more questions... or I should say, they may have some more questions

rah · January 3, 2004, 18:47

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Originally posted by Ming
I will indeed show to my wife and Alexia...

Hmmmmmmmm.

HawkHunter · January 3, 2004, 19:01

And you call yourself the Chief Minion of (the Grand Lord and True Emperor of Apolyton)

...... i just fixed mine by that

Rasputin · January 3, 2004, 19:35

wow, explains why i couldnt host a game too...

just doenst make any sense to me in how to fix the damn thing..

if anyone has a laymans terms explanation i would be greatful

deity · January 3, 2004, 23:23

This is what I did ages ago:

* Go to Network Connections in Control Panel
* Right click on your Internet Connection and select Properties
* Click the Advanced tab
* Down the bottom click Settings
* In the Services tab click Add and create the Civ2MP setting with 4993 etc

I think that's all but I might have forgotten something.

Ming · January 4, 2004, 01:07

Quote:

Originally posted by rah

Hmmmmmmmm.

I meant my wife and Benji

DrSpike · January 9, 2004, 13:36

The guide above was to help Eyes, who had a dsl modem/router with a hardware firewall. It will help anyone else with that setup.

However some people here with problems may have a software firewall and a USB modem. XP has an inbuilt software firewall IIRC. In this case you just need to tell your software firewall not to block data arriving on port 4993. It looks like that was Deity's solution.

rah · January 9, 2004, 14:48

About time you showed up.

Ming · January 10, 2004, 14:48

Thanks for all the help. Our network guy was over last night and fixed all the problems. I know have connections for up to five machines in my basement to make those Apolyton/Civ meetings even more fun in the future. There will be no need for having to borrow my kids machines and stringing 50 foot cables to the switch.

DrSpike · January 10, 2004, 15:05

Any time.

To be honest I doubt your network guy needed any instructions, excepting the port used. Curiously I have never seen it documented anywhere official. Of course in 1998 broadband and modem/routers with firewalls were uncommon, so I don't suppose they thought it necessary to mention it.

rah · January 10, 2004, 16:06

We fiddled around a touch before we got it.
He wouldn't listen to me.

Ming · January 11, 2004, 12:35

Yeah... but it works now, and that's all that matters.
The next time we have a Apolyton meet at my house, people should bring their laptops

-Jrabbit · January 12, 2004, 10:00

Hey Ming, does this mean we can now jack in your iBook and do 3 from your basement?

rah · January 12, 2004, 11:29

That should be the case now. I think up to 5.

Ming · January 13, 2004, 11:53

Yes... as long as you have the game loaded on your machine, you can just plug into my switch and be assigned an IP. Up to 5 IP addresses are available in the basement now.

rah · January 13, 2004, 14:49

Hmm, maybe time to get an ethernet card for my laptop and test it.

Ming · January 13, 2004, 16:06

Yeah... it should work as long as you have loaded civ on it.

I am looking forward to the next Apolyton meet at my place.

-Jrabbit · January 13, 2004, 16:44

Ming -- As you know, my laptop is a non-Civ Zone. that's why I would need to use the ibook. (I know the game is loaded and that you prefer to use your "real" machine).

so one of these nights when "other games" mode is not happening...

rah · January 13, 2004, 19:17

I had civ loaded on mine, but I'd have to verify patches and such. Who knows, on a quiet night maybe all three of us could play.

Maybe I'll bring it Friday and we can check it out. Do you have an extra cable? I don't since we've never hooked it up.

Ming · January 13, 2004, 21:38

I have extra cables... no problem

And JR... we will miss you this week

Rasbelin · January 14, 2004, 09:36

Thanks! Yet another grain of Civ II information learned.

The port number might become useful know-how in the future. Will store it in the notepad. So far I haven't needed anything, as I have static public IP addresses (that's why creating DLs isn't really a good idea, because Ming would easily bust me

) and no NAT gimmicks.

Ming · January 14, 2004, 13:38

My network guy was thrilled to hear that the actual port number was identified... he said it saved him a lot of work knowing what it was. A real keeper!

DrSpike · January 14, 2004, 13:48

I can testify it was a pain. Port scanners are better these days though.

Ljube · January 17, 2004, 21:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Ming
Yes... as long as you have the game loaded on your machine, you can just plug into my switch and be assigned an IP. Up to 5 IP addresses are available in the basement now.

Network civ is the best

War4ever · February 9, 2004, 02:17

finally someone else with computer problems.... you must have inherited mine, b/c i am trouble free, aside from the fact i have no time to play anymore

OzzyKP · February 15, 2004, 21:40

I can't host either. Also on XP. When I look up my IP, it says 192.168.0.6, but that doesn't appear to be right. I don't have the benefit of network guys to help me out.