Western Hemisphere NES

[foolish_icarus]

Western Hemisphere NES

January 11, 2004 10:44 AM EST

A most peculiar thing happened. All the landmass of the Eastern Hemisphere has disappeared. Subsequent satellite footage analysis indicated no apparent cause, catastrophic or otherwise. Eurasia, Africa, Australia, and all their attendant islands simply all simultaneously disappeared. Hasty submarine examination shows only normal-looking subsea basins and ridges, with a few stray atolls the only apparent remnants of the once mighty continents. North and South America (and Antarctica) stand alone, surrounded by a vast and empty ocean.

In the ensuing disorganization most of the remaining countries have broken up. Now is your chance to turn your now feeble and shaky state into an unstoppable dominating war machine. Or sneaky, grasping, mercantilist powerhouse. Or idyllic and nurturing utopia. Or weak and desperate sycophantic tributary-state to one of the former. Whatever suits your fancy.

Despite unusual weather patterns in some areas, no major climactic changes have occurred as a result of the missing continents…so far . But in a world that has shown itself to be unhesitatingly inconsistent-more changes may come.

Start date in NES world will be June 2004, continuing at 6 months/day. Real start date will be January 11 or when there are at least 4 players, whichever comes first.

The plan is for this to be a low moderation, self updated NES. To avoid intervention, KEEP IT REALISTIC (or at least entertainingly unlikely).

Map will be posted when there is something to put on it. If anyone wants to volunteer to take care of the map, you are welcome to it.

Post a moderate claim for your initial territory, with similarly modest starting stats, in the format as follows:




Name…
Current territorial extent…
Army:
Navy:
Air Force:
Economy:
Discontent:
Population:
Infrastructure/Modernity:
Government/Society:


Using these charts…


Military levels :

None, Infinitesimal, Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Very Large, Huge, Enormous, Outrageous

Economy (Average commercial health) :

Primitive, Backwards, Poor, Struggling, Average, Good, Thriving, Exceptional, Glorious, Awe Inspiring

Discontent (Amount of unhappiness) :

Insignificant, Minor, Some, Significant, Worrisome, Open Revolt

Population (Base on actual current pop figures. As progression is 6 months/day, natural growth WILL BE SMALL)

Numbers for total pop., e.g. 10.5 million

Social Infrastructure/Education/Economic “foundation”-conglomerate (Basically how “modern” your nation is, socially progressive, opportunities and availability of goods and services for the common person) :

Percentage base, 1% (poor) through 100% (good).

Government/Society :

Blurb, e.g. “Absolute despotism enforced by a merciless secret police force. Despite this, the population is annoyingly upbeat and optimistic” etc.

[foolish_icarus]

I shall claim a nation:


Name: Cascade Republic
Current territorial extent: Oregon and Washington
Army: Tiny
Navy: Infinitesimal
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Minor
Population: 9.5 million
Social Infrastructure/Modernity: 65 %
Government/Society: Straightforward republic. No major policies as of yet, currently concerned with security and general well-being of population.

[Jonny]

I'll join, even though it looks like it may already be dead...

Name: Atlantic Empire
Current territorial extent: New Hampshire, Maine, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia
Army: Tiny
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Minor
Population: 4.2 million
Social Infrastructure/Modernity: 60%
Government/Society: Constitutional Monarchy, similar to that of the UK, but the King has slightly more power when it comes to the legislation of laws. The government's main concern as of now is protecting the people from outside threats and guarding the nation's coastline, as many of these people make their living from the sea.

[Jack_www]

I will play. I will claim my lnand latter.
My conutry, I am planing on having California, Nevada, Organ, and Arizona

[Metaliturtle]

I'm down too

Name The People Overestimate Our Pickles (The POOP)
Current territorial extent: The states that touch the Mississippi
Army: Large
Navy: Huge
Air Force: Infintis... that one
Economy: Good
Discontent: Some
Population: To be determined
Infrastructure/Modernity: 75% except in Arkansas where it's 35%
Government/Society: The POOP is a Capitalistic Fundamentalism. It was founded when a woman in Milwaukee got on national news with a pickle that had predicted the loss of half the world... 2 days BEFORE it happened. This formed a weird religion centered around pickle worship that has spread like wildfire down the Mississippi River.
Currently the maker of the pickles, Ryan Naidl has stepped up as the leader of this nation, urging his citizens to arm and/or join the army so as to best serve the pickle. For those too young, old, or whatever who cannot be in the military, he has asked that they work as hard as they can to bring money to the economy. All this hard work has led to the discontent.

but I gotta get off the computer now... laters

[foolish_icarus]

well i'm looking for a map, no luck so far, if anyone knows of one you can post or send me the link.

Jack are you going to take Oregon?

[Odin]

The Republic of Huronia

Territory: Minnesota (IT'S MINE, META! my home will not be a slave to capitalism!) northern Wisconsin, Michigan, Ontario, North Dakota, South Dakota

Capital: Toronto

Army: Medium

Navy: Tiny

Air Force: Medium

Economy: Thriving

Discontent: Some (Pickle-haters in Minnesota and Wisconsin )

Population: 26,368,000

Social Infrastructure: 75%

Government: Parlimentary Democracy

[Nubclear]

NAME: Great New Republic (Commonly referred to as "The Republic" or "The New Republic", as its referred to on the flag)
TERRITORIAL EXTENT: Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jeresey, Delaware, Maryland, Ohio
TERRITORIAL CLAIMS: Ibid, Virginia, Michigan, Maine, New Hampshire,
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Medium

Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Some
Population: 71,163,489
Infrastructure/Modernity: 75%
---Education: 80% (Great education facilities, but even before they were underfunded)
---Social Infrastructure: 92% (HIGHLY developed cities, caring people)
---Economic Foundation: 59% (Shattered by economic collapses)
Government/Society:
---Freedoms
------Religion: All religions allowed, state officially secular.
------Speech: Free speech protected by constitutional law
------Press: Free press completly allowed
---Economy: Socialist Capitalism.
---Government Structure: President elected for indefinite term unless 2/3 of the ENTIRE governmental structure vote to oust.
---Society Values: Education, Equality

More information:
Dating System: Now uses a new type of dating system, the "New Era". 2004 is 0 (NE). Dates before 2004 are referred to as normal.
Weather Reports: All normal.
Previous historical records have been classified and immigration has been put to a halt while government rebuilds itself.

CURRENT HEAD OF STATE: Emergency President Tassadar

[Metaliturtle]

No way dude, I got it first, you can have minn but my homestate is mine!(WI)

[foolish_icarus]

okay go ahead and start.

I will post map when i find one.

Territory resolutions:

Odin gets Minnesota, Metaliturtle gets Wisconsin, Jonny gets Maine and New Hampshire

[Nubclear]

The New Republican News

Invitation to Join the Republic
Emergency President Tassadar, elected by a 90-10 vote, announced today that he would be inviting several former states and provinces including Quebec, Ontario, Maryland, Virginia, Michigan, Ohio, Maine, Utah, and Ohio.
"We would be greatly joyed if these former US States would accept this proposal to join with the Republic." Tassadar said.

Tassadar offers gift to God

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Tassadar asks for Defense, Trade Treaty with Atlantic Empire
"Our nations are nations very similar to each other. Both our economies have been shattered, and our defense forces have collapsed, not to mention that our peoples are culturally similar and have great respsect for each other. So why then should we look across the border fearing that an attack may happen at any moment?
I believe that we should not. To this end, I wish to propose a defense treaty with the Atlantic Empire. If we are attacked by any nation or any organized group of peoples, we shall both actively seek to neutralize the threat.
I also believe that both our economise could do very well. You desire Republican goods, we desire Atlantic goods....So why not trade? To this end, I am proposing a trade pact with the Atlantic Empire." Emergency President Tassadar said Monday in a video transmission to the Atlantic Empire.
The Republican Party of the New Republic has critisized this however:
"What? They have TROOPS in territories that WE CLAIM. The solution is NOT to give them more money but to declare war immediatetly and slaughter all their peoples." Republican Leader Gyorj Boosh said almost immediately after the speech.
However President Tassadar was quick to fire back:
"Well, no offense to my friends in the Republican party, however Gyorj Boosh is a crazy. Not only are we not in any position to be starting wars, the Atlantic Empire and its people are our friends. Why would we ever EVER declare war on them?"

President Tassadar Recognizes States, Territorial Claims
Emergency President Tassadar today recognized several states as being self-governing and also recognized other states territoral claims on the New Empire.
"The Republic is willing to recognize the existence of the Republic of Huronia, the state of People Overestimate our Pickles, the Atlantic Empire, the Cascade Republic, and is willing to recognize that the citizens of New Hampshire are a part of the Atlantic Empire."

President Tassadar proposes Trade admist critisicm from Republicans
"We would like to trade with your nation, the Republic of Huronia, so that both our nations may prosper." Tassadar told the Huronian president Wednesday.
"What the HELL is he doing? Huronia also has troops in one of OUR territories. That, quite frankly, is a declaration of war against the Republic and we should be gearing up for a full invasion." Said Gyorj Boosh. The Presidents office only had this to say: "He can go fick himself for all I care."

[Tassadar500]

NAME: Greater Quebec
TERRITORIAL EXTENT: Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba
TERRITORIAL CLAIMS: Louisiana
Army: Small
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Small
Economy: Backwards
Discontent: Minor
Population: 20,887,002
Infrastructure/Modernity: 90%
---Education: 85%
---Social Infrastructure: 95%
---Economic Foundation: 74%
Government/Society:
---Freedoms
------Religion: All religions allowed, state officially catholic.
------Speech: Free speech protected by constitutional law
------Press: Free press completly allowed
---Economy: A king with an elected court.
---Society Values: Education, Religion

More information:
Dating System: Now uses a new type of dating system, the "New Era". 2004 is 0 (NE). Dates before 2004 are referred to as normal.
CURRENT HEAD OF STATE: King Nuclear

[foolish_icarus]

Nuclear Master, Ontario has been claimed

Ohio and Maryland have agreed to join the New Republic.

(Credit to the New Republic for their cartographic skills )

This is how things currently stand, pending adjustment (plus south america but nothing has happened there yet) :
(EDIT--the new map...or not. eh, will be fixed later)

[Nubclear]

The New Republican News

Population Increases as Maryland, Ohio join New Republic in year 0
"I can confirm that our former population estimate of 54,217,137 is now outdated. The Republic is pleased to announce that the total population is now 71,161,844. As well as this, we can also confirm that the flag will be changed to reflect the two new states." Census Minister Rassadar told reporters Monday.

Russian Airliner carrying 102 Passengers lands in New York!!
The citizens of New York City were surprised today when an Aeroloft airplane was discovered in the New York City Republican Airport Thursday.
"It was a shock, but a good one! I mean, these people are natives to their nations which have disappeared...Its great to know that they can have a home here in the New Republic." Said Mary Brinswick.
Our sources can confirm that the airliner was en route to Madrid after having been refueled in Frankfurt.
"This is a great oppritunity not only to help preseve the outside cultures but to also learn what exactly happend on that fateful day, and hopefully there will be more airplanes making it over to land." Said President Tassadar. However, the passangers had much more to say:
"It is quite simple, but I know you Americans are not intelligent so I will attempt to make it clearer. We fly from Moscow (the capital of Russia, my country. It is at least ten times bigger than America.) and we go to Frankfurt (in a nation called Germany. It's in Europe) for some Seleen Dyyon concert. Well, we refuel, and take off again to go to some economic summit in Madrid (the capital of Spain. Eh...Spain is like Mexico.). Well we take off, and just minutes later we hear a huge splash below us! I mean really big...Eh...(what can these Americans relate to?) it was as big as the big apple! There! So we look out the window, and the land! It is gone! Where has it gone? Nobody knows. So we just kept flying until we saw land...We landed in your (pathetic) airport." Said Boris Putin as he was coming out of the New York airport.
The passangers are now being interviewed by government officials, and data from the aircraft is being looked at.

The Republic announces new "Cultural Preservation Program", to be based in Boston
"The cultures around the world are rich and diverse, however now that the new era has begun, they are no more. So I announce today that a cultural preservation center will be established in Boston. We shall construct a large, architectually diverse building to house legends, lore, food...The cultures of the civilizations. In addition to this we will also have live plays, and fully staffed "Culture rooms" for each culture that we encounter and gather data on. The starting cultures will be: French, German, Russian, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Middle Eastern, African, and Egyptian.
The computer that will house these cultures will be a top of the line supercomputer with many terabytes worth of space. It is estimated that this will cost around one billion dollars, and we would appreciate any international aid that could be given. In the meantime, funding will be withheld for the Reagan national monuments scattered around here. Sorry." Announced Yosef Shalen, spokseperson for the Tassadar administration.

[Jonny]

The Atlantic News Journal
The Official Paper of the Atlantic Empire Since Forever

Emperor Jonny Welcomes Peace with The Republic
In a videobrodcast transmission late Monday night, the Atlantic Emperor announced that he was "more than willing" to sign a defensive pact with the Atlantics' friends in the Republic, effective immediately. "A guarantee of peace now," the emperor said, "will hopefully lead to greater cooperation between our very similar cultures later on in the future." The Emperor was also quite enthusiastic about the signing of a trade agreement between the two nations: "Economic cooperation with The Republic will lead to financial windfalls for both nations."


Emperor Announces Greater Army Investments
Emperor Jonny's Military Secretary has announced that the Atlantic Empire will increase funding to its army. "The formation of Greater Quebec," he explained, "which has a larger army than ours, has forced us to enlargen our army in order to ensure the defense and protection of our people and to ensure regional stability." (OOC: begin increasing army size to small)

[foolish_icarus]

The Cascade Republic greets all existing nations and would like to open up permanent emabssies and diplomatic channels.


To New Republic:

We have some individuals who wish to contribute some small sums of money to your "Cultural Preservation Program".


To that one country to the south of us, POOP, Republic of Huronia :

We seek food shipments--will you take cash?


To all countries:

A number of issues present themselves. Firstly, we recommend we all use american dollars as a common currency (Other currencies may be exchanged at present values until integration is complete). Secondly, our airport and roads system should be maintained, with passage granted to travellors and cargo shippers. Perhaps a maximum tarriff of, say, 5 %? Our shared infrastructure and utilities, such as power lines and generation and water rights need to be allocated and regulated. Will you all agree to attend a conference to determine the best way to reimplement these crucial devices?



The Cascade Republic has cemented its new legal code, and is currently working on implementing administrative policies and boosting production and employment.

Orders have been placed to refit old vehicles and airplanes and build a few new ones to get paramilitary readiness up by augmenting transport, reconassaince and survey, and search and rescue. "Unemployed" former national soldiers have been offered citizenship and a chance to serve in Cascade's police and/or armed forces.

Discontent has increased to Some due to continued lack of availability of normal services and goods.
Air force will increase to tiny within two years.

[Nubclear]

The New Republican News

Orders from Tassadar, New Policies Announced
We here at the New Republican News have obtained the following classified document:

BY ORDER OF PRESIDENT TASSADAR THE FIRST, ON WHATEVER TODAYS DATE IS IN THE YEAR ZERO NEW ERA.

First off, the borders are to now be reopened so that peoples may flow in. Also, those presently inside the Republic will be given citizenship if they come to their local immigration offices. They must come within 4 weeks. I realize the potential for abuse, but this is a new era and we must rethink our paradigms of decision making. And Gyorj, if you keep giving me hell about this I will remove you. Is that understood?
Second, those who are in the Atlantic Empire, if they can prove they are indeed citizens of the Atlantic Empire, may come inside the Republic for 120 days. After which they may show their proof again for another 30 days, and after that they will require a visa. Tell the officers to treat them with utmost respect, which should be main policy but for some reason they seem to think that due to the current crisis they can take their anger outon everyone else.
We'll announce these policies in two weeks, so that we have time to impliment them.

President Tassadar replies to Icarus, Proposes Union Treaty
The President today gave a message of mixed reviews to Icarus, President of the Cascade Republic.
"First off, I would like to say that the common currency idea is a fine idea and we would gladly reinstate the dollar. Though we did come up for some interesting designs for our new currencies.
I however disagree with my friend when it comes to the maintaining of airports. Perhaps the larger airports should be maintained, however the smaller ones I am going to shut down in my nation for the time being in order to save money. The new era has brung much economic devestation to the Republic as we were dependant on foreign nations for our economy and though we are getting back off the ground, this is simply a measure put in place to assist.
Roads, of course, will be maintained.
The maximum tarriff is also acceptable.
We would also agree to the conference, though we think it should be taken one step further. Much of North America is integrated with each other, and the Republic thinks that it would be wise to establish a union similar to the one in Europe where we may make laws but still retain national sovergnty." ---President Tassadar, Speech

Funding for Education Raised causes Tuitions to Lower
Francisco Hernandez and his family now make an income of roughly $24,000 a year and have only $3,000 in their college savings fund for their two children, ages 6 and 8. Before the new era Francisco and his wife Mary were concerned about how they would put their children through college, however due to new initiatives passed by President Tassadar are now easing their worries.
Recently the government has increased spending to education by 60% (20% of that, however, going to the Cultural Preservation project) and has resulted in lower tuitions. The cost now to get into an average college for a 4 year term? Less than $11,000.
"We are overjoyed. If this continues, we will soon be able to send our beautiful children to get an education that we never even got the chance to get under the Bush administration. It is...magnifico!" say the overjoyed parents.
"I am deeply commited to education and will not make the mistakes of the previous leaders. If our society is to continue to persue its free, democratic traditions then our peoples must be smart enough to recognize what is best for the nation." Tassadar said.
(Education to 78%, economic structure to 51 in the short term)

[Metaliturtle]

Ryan Naidl is in agreement over the maintenance of roads.
The military is being maintained at the moment.
((OOC: can someone hook us up with a site to get the populations of states?))
Naidl continues to try to improve arkansas, with only moderate success.

[Nubclear]

http://eire.census.gov/popest/data/s...EST2003-01.php

[Tassadar500]

Greater Quebec News

The Greater Quebec leader King Nuclear has stated in the latest press conference that whoever joins the army will recieve high rewards.
"I encourage everyone to join the army. You will get awards beyond your dreams. So help me G-d." King Nuclear has also decided to spend most of his excess wealth to improve the economy. King Nuclear has sent a message out to all French and Catholics. "Greater Quebec is the home for ALL Catholics and Frenchman. We are the new France of old. Any Provinces or States who want to join us will be rewarded. So help me G-d."


Greater Quebec Foriegn Affairs
The New Republic
We are interested in signing an alliance with you. Greater Quebec wishes to be great friends with the Republic.

Atlantic Empire
We wish you no harm. We would like to sign a defensive pact with you. This is only if you will help us invade the Huriona Republic. All I want is Ontario and Northern Winsconsin. You can take the rest.

[Metaliturtle]

People Overestimate Our Pickles

To Icarus: We have more than enough food, we are willing to trade for a Mutual Protection Peace treaty and open trading between our two nations tariff free. We also will agree with shared money, however we demand that inspection forces withh all nations participating be represented to prevent overprinting and inflation.

To the New Republic and all former US nations:
We request an alliance and propose a larger scale alliance between all of the former United States in order to:
1. promote faster modernization.
2. have a more opened trade with each nation, (lowered tariffs)
3. help protect each other from threats unknown
4. Open universities to students across the country, helping to diversify education and thus create more rational societies.
5. Provide a forum for international laws to be made and enforced from.
6. We are open to addendums or modification suggestions form other nations.

Stuff we're doing:
Pickle Missionaries are coming to Indiana and Texas to spread the word. The people in these former states are very accepting of this, having nothing but anarchal rule for quite some time now.

It is estimated that the people of Indiana will be at a majority support in 3 months, but best estimates of Texas are closer to a year considering the higher population spread.

Our missionaries have also made it into Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska, but are struggling to convert people who worship some guy called The Wizard of Oz, the only clue gathered about his whereabouts is that he's "somewhere over the rainbow" The POOP suspects some type of communist mind control device planted in the North Pole, since that's the only logical place that could be over the rainbow.

[foolish_icarus]

Cascade Republic to POOP

Agreed.


OOC: I’m going away till Monday, until then Jonny is in charge of my nation and he can do whatever he wants with it. Tassadar will mediate any disputes.

[mrmitchell]

Uh, hopefully I'm not too late?...

the Redneck South
Territorial Extent: Alabama, Georgia, Texas
Claims: Arkansas, Mississippi
Army: Medium (all those hicks with shotguns)
Navy: Infinitesimal (a few fishin' boats)
Airforce: Non existant
Economy: Poor (Backwards, except for Texas)
Discontent: Insignificant
Population: 35.3 million
Infrastructure/Modernity: Basically backwards. Metropolitan areas are still fairly wealthy after the national collapse, but resources are harder to get to.
Guv'ment/Society:
-Currently, a despot that allows many freedoms--most importantly the right to bear arms, then right to religion, a
-Society is fundamentalist Christian that is outraged by the pickle-worship.

[mrmitchell]

Damn, I really didn't mean to kill the thread, I'm sorry

[Nubclear]

[mrmitchell]

Uh, hopefully I'm doing it right.

To POOP
We demand that you give us the state that was before the Collapse known as Arkansas. We also desire Mississippi, but its worth to humanity other than a way to get from Texas/Arkansas to Alabama/Georgia has been identified as "nil", so if we could just have right of passage through it...

EDIT; If we are given Arkansas and Mississippi (at least passage through the latter), we will agree to all your proposals in your last communication to all nations.

[foolish_icarus]

You are doing it right mrmitchell, but unfortunately this NES was already dead before you joined. Hopefully sometime there will be a new one for you to participate in

[mrmitchell]

Warning: If no other nation makes any further actions in 24 hours, the Redneck South will declare the entire Western Hemisphere as its territory.

[Space05us]

New Alaskan Dictatorship (NAD)
all of Alaska
Army: small
Navy: tiny
Air Force: none
Economy: struggling
Discontent: Insignificant (not enough timt to complain when you're trying to find food)
Population: 626,932
Infrastructure/Modernity: 20%
Government/Society: Despotism

[Space05us]

Due to supression of public access news sources by Emporer Nanook-Man the following news trickles through the territory of Alaska and down to the other Empires and Republics by word-of-mouth.

INVASION!
The mighty warriors of the New Alaskan Dictatorship invade what was once the Yukon Territory of the now gone Canada. Very little resistance is put up as the people of the Yukon welcome the N.A.D. as a means by which to obtain protection and much needed food.

FESTIVAL!
Deeply saddended by the lack of bloodshed during this conflict Emporer Nanook-Man orders a great festival to be held in Anchorage, where Polar Bears, Brown Bears, Black Bears, Grizzly Bears, and many other carnivorous animals will be put to the test against helpless slaves in fights to the death!

Messege runners from the Emporer are sent out to all other major empires and republics carrying the following messege.

Dear Other Leader Guy/Gal:
I have recently come to power in Alaska and have found my empire to be very rich in natural resources, if you wish to open up trade realtions between our two great empires just send a messege back with the runner. Or if not you may do as you please with the runners, they're really fast, really, try siccing your dogs on them its a good laugh!

Signed, Emporer Nanook-Man