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Old January 16, 2004, 13:26   #1
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It's not the winning that matters, it's the taking part that counts.
A popular motto at school sports days around the UK (although I suspect not the US) and possibly a reason why we never win anything.

Anyway, if this is valid for sports why not also for wars?
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Old January 16, 2004, 13:27   #2
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Old January 16, 2004, 13:38   #3
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Ok, I know what you are saying but it's kind of a reverse point.

Sport seems to me to basically be a way of replacing local tribal conflicts. In which case the point about the taking part being important is complete balls.
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Notice it is always the loser who says that
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Old January 16, 2004, 13:59   #7
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Re: It's not the winning that matters, it's the taking part that counts.
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Anyway, if this is valid for sports why not also for wars?
You lose a sprint, you don't get the medal/girl/ big leagues contract.

You lose a war your house gets burned, wife and daughters raped and their throats slit and you can't watch the game on TV for a while while they're rebuilding the national team and stadium.
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Well I imagine it is not unusual you hear the losing side of war say "yes we lost but we fighted (and will continue to fight)". You don't hear it often perhaps because you are on the side that have more money and better weapons?
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Well I imagine it is not unusual you hear the losing side of war say "yes we lost but we fighted (and will continue to fight)". You don't hear it often perhaps because you are on the side that have more money and better weapons?
Buncha whiney poor sports if you ask me. Shoulda been raised better by their parents.
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You forget that winning and lossing is not the whole of the game, it's just the result. Playing a sport is about teamwork as well. Yet, if all ya don't give a sheit than of course it all just becomes about winning and losing, and not caring.
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Because school sports are supposed to be about getting exercise and having fun.
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The South is still whining about that last war.
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The South is still whining about that last war.
Makes you question the parenting of those southerners, no?
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A popular motto at school sports days around the UK (although I suspect not the US)
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"It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game" is a prevelent saying here in the US. Many professional atheletes appear to have forgotten it, but I think I'm gonna blame the game there, not the playa.

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It's a very good moto.
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That's a good motto too.
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Someone's going to win. But the motto of participating versus winning like you're some kind of foam at the mouth rabbit whereas we usually talk about school kids is very good.
Play the game congratulate your opponent winner or loser, good game ethics.
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If nobody wins, how do I collect money from my bookie?
Its not if you win or lose but if you cover the spread.
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saying winning matters doesnt make you more tough rather a bit retarded
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the important is to start playing. then everything gets its course. much preferable that 8 hours in playstation
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winning does matter, that is the problem with the post-war society. We have all become so damn lefty liberal types that we can't offend someone a little bit. Glory to the winner, shame on the donkey. Runners up? There are no runners up, only loosers.
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and you make kids turn into pychotic asylum seekers dying on the steets. no thanks this model was good for nazi germany.

of coruse you'll want to win but start playing is the more important thing
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The South is still whining about that last war.
Now, now -- it's a well known fact that South may have lost the war, but they did not lose any battles -- God forbid.
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