January 24, 2004, 13:01
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waiting for responce
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January 24, 2004, 13:24
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Chieftain
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Originally posted by binTravkin
As for probes & BELIEVERS (as themonger wrote) I believe it is easier to sneak a probe past border patrols, sensors&scouts in PBEM game, cause U can try diferent paths,but it is NOT so easy to steal when playin in huge map - ur borders rarely are close to enemies & if does there is much sensors and at least some fast units in border cities to quickly show up & rain some bullets on ur probes & they dont need much to die..
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I'll give yah that, I was in the mindset of a medium sized map, thus tech stag and spoils of war were very scarry combined force when I have to start right next to *insert warmongering faction here*
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January 25, 2004, 05:34
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Multiple loads result in the next player being notified. If you do it often enough, everyone will know.
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And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.
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January 25, 2004, 09:43
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King
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Shawn informed me you're looking for a CMN, i've never tried it before but i know pretty much all the basics from creating scenarios for SP games if you want me to give it a go ?
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January 25, 2004, 15:53
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King
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it's ok for me 
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January 25, 2004, 16:05
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King
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Email me your preferred passwords then xxkris_no1@hotmail.com just gotta sort out why one or two factions aint getting the whole tech selection and its done.
Also Themonger what do you want as your free starting tech ?
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January 25, 2004, 21:40
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Emperor
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Lazerus, thank you for being the moderator! I tried to send you an email from my hotmail account but it did not go through. I left you a pm here on this forum, where you can see the info you need.
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January 26, 2004, 05:01
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King
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same here
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January 26, 2004, 06:08
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Emperor
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Sent my password to Lazerus from snapster@inbox.lv hope u get it
Some r sayin that reloadin is bad..
4 how much bad it is considered amongst u?
I mean may I reload and if yes, how many times?
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January 26, 2004, 06:11
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Oh,never mind!
It seems Lazerus has given us a "not very accesible @ address"
Ill send it through pm
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January 26, 2004, 07:29
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I am not sure, but that might be kinda safety trick to put two "x" letters in front of the email address, but anyway i have already sent a pm...
BinTravkin, if we commit to no-reloding, we do not reload. Period. There is no other way to have good and quality game. As i wrote some posts earlier, i could have some unit of strength 10 or even, let us say, 50 and other player trying reloding for example 500 times could kill it easily with a scout with strength 1. It has no sense playing such game, thus rules state - every player loads once, then ends turn generating file for next player. This game is not chess game, where there is nothing more but players decisions and no chance. This game bases on chance rolls, which could be unfortunately easily cheated. Reloding to achieve desired battle outcome is good for single player games, coz computers do not mind that, but when playing with people they do mind. I do and i think others too  We stick to the rules
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January 26, 2004, 08:30
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Just a note, i wrote that we could play version 4.0, but i'm using a machine with winXP, so i believe it would be better to have the version 5.0, as they call it the compatibility patch for win2000/XP.
What operating systems do you use?
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January 26, 2004, 09:25
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Emperor
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Im on XP too
Theres a thing about reloadin - if i download file to folder called "downloads" & then copy it to folder "..\SMAC\Saves\PBEM\" play my turn, dont like the outcome & delete the file then copy it from download folder again, is there any chance that "terran.exe" will recognize that Im cheating even if i change the filename?
Does SMAC has any security against this kind of cheating?
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January 26, 2004, 09:29
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Of course I wont cheat but someone else can if this worx!
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January 26, 2004, 10:11
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King
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1) SMAC WILL recognize it.
2) reloading is not allowd - PLEASE READ PBEM RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3) I use XP with 4.0 fine.
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January 26, 2004, 10:46
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Emperor
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Ok ok I just wanted to know!
Rules r rules -
there is no rule made by humans
which is never broken by humans
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January 26, 2004, 11:07
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King
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no problem 
just wanted you to read the rules cause there are many other rules i dont remember on the spot right naw, i'm just used to plaing like that.
it is good cause poeple you play with will surely quote them in games you play.
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January 26, 2004, 11:51
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Prince
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SMAC keeps track if you've played that file, and it does it independent of the save folder, and the file of the game being played. Thus the next player will know if the game was reloaded. It is considered good form post why on the turn tracking thread.
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The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.
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January 26, 2004, 13:42
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King
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Yeah the xx's were for the safety thing people keep mentioning about scary bots getting your emails from forums and then spamming you to buy their viagra and mortgages  sorry didnt mention that.
I'm still lacking password and tech choice from Themonger. got it
Also ran into a little problem creating the scenario in that there are 2-3 factions at the start do not have all the technological choices available to them, for most it is a simple matter os things like applied physics so you won't really mind but for the Hive they're missing cent ecology and this is why it may take a day or two more as i'm messaging other more experienced CMN's to try come up with the reason since i've checked and double checked (and then had it confirmed) that everything is as it should be yet it still isn't appearing  so apologies about that
anyways we may have to work out a compromise to this, if after the one suggestion i've got, and about to try, doesn't work.
ps, reloads are only allowed on rare occasions such as power faults shutting your computer down, windows being windows and crashing etc too many are viewed as suspicious.
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January 26, 2004, 14:21
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King
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we'll wait for you
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January 26, 2004, 16:01
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King
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Hmm didnt work, i've been told that this is a one of those little annoying bugs in good old SMAC.
Will continue to try find a way around it when i get some more advice or if that doesn't work i've got a few ideas for giving bonuses as a counter balance for this effect.
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Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.
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January 26, 2004, 16:04
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King
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just find a solution...dont know about the others, but ill anjoy any balanced one.
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January 26, 2004, 16:10
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Lazerus, whatever you decide it is ok with me. Do not spend too much time on that.
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January 26, 2004, 16:19
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King
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The idea i've come up with is to simply tweak the Hives starting position just slightly and to give him a goodie bag basically. The scenario will start 2moro night at the latest.
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January 26, 2004, 16:52
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King
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sound ok with me (i'm the hive )
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January 26, 2004, 20:41
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King
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http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=107312
No goodie bag for you im afraid, I sorted out your problem though got it just as i was going out hence the small delay starting , have you all posted your emails in here or am i blind at this time of night ? nvm got em all
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January 26, 2004, 20:44
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King
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well i guess i deal with it 
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January 26, 2004, 21:06
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maybe i'll post the email here too:
xxmarcin777@hotmail.com
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