TurnChat 14 or 2004 - #2

[Paddy]

Ok, I feel the imprint of Toga's Steel Cap boot...

Is anybody interested in a Turnchat ???

I am available from tonight at the following times:
Sunday 25 Jan 11pm - 10am Australian Eastern Standard Time.
or Noon - 11pm Greenwich Mean Time

Monday 26 Jan 11pm - 10am Australian Eastern Standard Time.
or Noon - 11pm Greenwich Mean Time

edit: that is a few hours during these times...

[theViking]

Monday 26 Jan 11pm - 10am Australian Eastern Standard Time.
or Noon - 11pm Greenwich Mean Time

??
11pm - 10 am ??

[Paddy]

Originally posted by theViking
Monday 26 Jan 11pm - 10am Australian Eastern Standard Time.
or Noon - 11pm Greenwich Mean Time

??
11pm - 10 am ??

Hi there,

hahahaha and your in Melbourne, that is great.

I was offering to be available for a few hours from 11pm tonight to 10am the next morning...

what times suit you for TurnChats



Edit: I am mainly in Sydney, thus my times

[Jonny]

I'm afraid I can't be there for any of those times...

[GodKing]

ewwwww. Guess I better become prez or something and get some decent times. If I were you, I would consider doing turn-threads instead of chats. In game 1, durring the third or fourth terms (I forget) when I was the equivlent of Domestic Minister, MWIA and Unortho were prez and vp, and there were no chats. You had to have your ministries orders up by every wednesday (noonish) and friday (evening) in a thread that they created. They played on wed night and sat morning, and posted results shortly thereafter. If the ministry didn't have their orders in on time, they played as THEY saw fit (happened once IIRC, to the war ministry or whatever it was called). And once, when Togas as FAM had orders that were accidently changed (ok, ok, not exactly what happened, but not to re-open old wounds either) all hell was loosed. There is nothign to say that you cannot have a chat going along with this either. Just do the orders, report in the chat room, and ask for opinions WHEN YOU WANT THEM.

[BigFree]

Let's try for a turn chat about 2 hours after the SuperBowl. Any takers?

[Paddy]

excellent....

um when is Superbowl...?

[Jonny]

It's Sunday at 6 p.m. ET (2300 GMT). And it will probably last around 3 to 3 and a half hours, so we're looking at a turn chat around 0400 GMT Monday.

[Paddy]

0400 GMT... sounds good to me

[ormuzd]

impossible for me but my brother maybe could join

[BigFree]

Originally posted by ormuzd
impossible for me but my brother maybe could join

Who's your bother?

/me thinks this sounds akin to asking "Who's your daddy?"

[ormuzd]

very fummy, really
He will not join (and maybe better )

[Togas]

Please please please just hold a turnchat so those of us who are watching have something new to watch

--Togas

[BigFree]

The turn will go on even if I just play it myself.

[Paddy]

So is about 0400 GMT a good estimation of when the Big Game finishes + 2hours...?

[Paddy]

ok, so has the footy finished yet?

[BigFree]

The turn chat is on.

[BigFurryMonster]

Tell us how it is progressing!

[Paddy]

ah ha, yes the turn is finished.

Big Free will be posting a report tomorrow.

[Togas]

um .... results???

--Togas

[theViking]

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot
ah ha, yes the turn is finished.

Big Free will be posting a report tomorrow.

And tomorrow is not today...

[Paddy]

TurnChat 14 Part I – As recorded by the Minister of the Interior.

Big Free enters the Senate floor


The gathering is called from the floor of the senate
The turn chat for the SPDG is starting in 5 minutes. Come check it out. /join #Civ3Dem

Togas enters the Senate
Paddy enters the Senate
Kloreep enters the Senate

Kloreep: Where are we in our wars, anyway? My attention to the SPDG went downhill after my VP term ended

The minutes presented of the last meeting of the senate

Discussion rises on the issue of the resource of Iron near the city of ‘Ring of Vikings’
BigFree: So, who wants to disconnect our Iron and build warriors for upgrades and go kick some ass prtior to us getting to beserkers?
Kloreep: Berserkers are gonna cost to upgrade
BigFree: yep
Paddy: the rewards are worth it if we suceed

Then war with Persia was brought forth
BigFree: but, do we use the cash we have no to wage war, then use that leverage to get techs
BigFree: *now
Kloreep: Ack, Persia has iron connected now
Kloreep: They were doing such a good job of ignoring it
BigFree: we should have a mission to land on it
Kloreep: Hmm... I say attack Persia
BigFree: Right
Kloreep: Best land around
BigFree: starting at their Iron location

[Paddy]

TurnChat 14 Part II – As recorded by the Minister of the Interior.

Then the debate went back to RoV.
Togas: to discon iron you'd have to cut both roads into "Ring of Vikings" giving it no luxes
Kloreep: Once we get their island, we can go after Egypt
BigFree: Ring of vikings needs to be brought down in size
Kloreep: It'll be painful, but we do need to spend our gold somehow
BigFree: it finishes a settler this turn
Kloreep: And considering how expensive galleys are, we can use breaks on shield expenses where we can get them, like swords

Conmcb25 enters the Senate

BigFree: ok, lets end turn now, then make plans to disconnect the Iron

Then the President gave forth the command
BigFree: End Turn

Luckily there is always someone watching the vaults
Togas: you guys do have a ton of cash

Then the decisions were made / discussed / argued on where to move units
BigFree: Move Big Mouth John out of RoV with keyboard #3 and then pillage road
Kloreep: What does SAG build?
BigFree: lets cut roads first, then determine builds
Togas: damn, by doing that you kill road and irrigation!
BigFree: what else can we do?
Togas: build swords
Togas: archers
Togas: spears
BigFree: we have al that gold
Kloreep: SAG won't even be able to keep at pop 3 once the lux are cut
BigFree: we put one as a specialist
Kloreep: We could save the gold
Kloreep: Wait for Berserks, or tech
Togas: you'll need gold to buy techs
Kloreep: Build swords the hard way (gulp)
BigFree: That what I was going to do, usae the leverage of war to sue for techs
BigFree: You take a few cities and they cough up techs pretty easily
BigFree: plus you have an army afterwards
Kloreep: SAG runs into unhappiness this turn

Octavian_X enters the Senate

BigFree: SAG either builds a worker or a settler
BigFree: Who's the MoI anywyas?
Kloreep: Specialist would be best, we need a scientist
Kloreep: Do we have a MoI?
Paddy: yes, well I am MoI
* Octavian_X wouldn't know...
Kloreep: Ah, good
Kloreep: Who's our MoW?
BigFree: nobody
BigFree: nobody ran for it

Still the debate for ‘Ring of Vikings’ Continues
BigFree: I have not cut road to RoV yet...are there any objections? Should we poll it?
BigFree: anyone?
Kloreep: I'm okay with it. RoV should be manageable with enough workers built
Paddy: looks good
Octavian_X: That should work.
BigFree: ok
BigFree: Move Big Mouth John out of RoV with keyboard #3 and then pillage road

Dissension from the floor
Togas: I'm against, but I'm not really official Just sort of an observer.

BigFree: :P

Aand more unit orders are made / discussed / argued about
Kloreep: Err... might have been good to move the settler first
Kloreep: Oh well

Conmcb25 departs the Senate

Togas: where is that settler going?
BigFree: That settler is going to New Asgard
BigFree: to join the galley that is being built there
Togas: cool
Paddy: good value
Togas: There's another settler 9 of Valhalla ... where's he going?
BigFree: that settler will make a city 8-8-9 or 8-8-9-9
Togas: who's city got whacked up there?
BigFree: The one new Val will go to our southern island
Kloreep: We're dangerously close to our unit limit
BigFree: We have a settler in "Spanish are Greedy" that is bording the Galley "Madrid Express" on the next turn. He will be going to settle 1-2-2 from "Raiding Base" on the Southern Island. We have a second settler that is almost completed out of "Ring of Vikings" that will be bording a new Gallye being currently built in "New Asgard." That settler will head for the tile 8-8-9-9 of "New Asgard." That city location is close to the Capitol and
BigFree: Move settler from RoV towards New Asgard (6-6-%}
BigFree: *8
Paddy: ok
BigFree: Move settler from near Val to SAG (2-2-2)
BigFree: Move NM the Warrior to 6 of RoV (will pillage road next turn)

And then we came to the mighty galley ‘Thors Sickle’
BigFree: Move Thor's Sickle (Galley) 7-4-4
BigFree: I see no reason to ulnoad the galley
Paddy: are we leaving the Ormzud Warrior fortified on the mountain?
Kloreep: Why not unload the galley?
Kloreep: It gives us more sight this turn and Makahlua can just return the next turn
Kloreep: It keeps us from unloading her next turn, but otherwise...
BigFree: right
Paddy: ok
BigFree: but we will see that other tile no matter what next turn
Kloreep: True
Kloreep: It would give us more sight into the ocean there
Kloreep: See if there's any coastal paths around
Kloreep: Though there probably aren't
BigFree: ok, lets unload then
BigFree: onto the jungle or the grasslnad?
Paddy: jungle
Kloreep: Jungle
BigFree: ok
Kloreep: More sight into the ocean
BigFree: Move Makahlua to jungle tile from Galley
Paddy: is that the tailings of Iron just north of Makahlua?
Kloreep: It's something
Kloreep: But that looks like a forest
BigFree: It looks like forrest to me
BigFree: but there's somehting else too
Kloreep: I think it's a lux
Kloreep: Silks
BigFree: hmm
BigFree: nice
Paddy: ok
Kloreep: Nice if we can get to them
Kloreep: We might want to consider sending the galley back for a settler
BigFree: a city with a harbor
BigFree: most definatley
A collective sign went up throughout the Senate

And more unit orders are made / discussed / argued about
Kloreep: BBJ S?
Kloreep: 2?
BigFree: yes
BigFree: Move BBJ 2
BigFree: Rainbow Roads
BigFree:
BigFree: Makahlua
BigFree: oops
Togas: next I have sneaky pete
BigFree: Move Sneaky Pete to RAG
Kloreep: RAG?
BigFree: he goes with settler to islnad
Kloreep: SAG?
BigFree: SAG
Kloreep: Ah, my sons
Togas: sons of kloreep? (nice name)
Kloreep: I think that unit was named on the turn my warrior was killed
Octavian_X: heh
Paddy: ahh let the name life on, good to see
BigFree: Sons of kloreep 1-1 then fortify
Togas: they stop after moving 1
BigFree: Sons of kloreep 1-1 then fortify
Kloreep: River got in the way
Togas: crossed river
Paddy: only went 1 with me too
BigFree: ok, 2-4 then
Togas: probably should move 2 4
BigFree: :P

* BigFree makes a note to get engineering soon

Paddy: ummm, so is the unit in Bifrost or did you move it 2 4
BigFree: I moved it 2-4
Togas: I'll need to dl the save next turn
BigFree: no biggy, just mov him ther next turn
BigFree: it wont affect the game
BigFree: there s no war now
BigFree: I need builds
BigFree: Paddy?
Paddy: cheers, good point
BigFree: And WF assignments
BigFree: I say settler in RoV
BigFree: and a worker in SAG
Paddy: that sounds good, what about the mood in SAG
Paddy: should one of the citz become an entertainer
Kloreep: SAG is fine this turn, isn't it?
Togas: have one be a sci
Paddy: we are not studing anything
Togas: you guys need at least 1 sci
Kloreep: Whoops, SAG, not RoV
Paddy: sag will roit next turn?
Kloreep: Wait, SAG is okay this turn
Kloreep: Because of the unit we moved in to it
Paddy: ok
Togas: looks like it's ok right now
Kloreep: Maybe use Build More Boats for the scientist this turn?
BigFree: sounds good
Kloreep: Also, a SAG plains citizen can shift to the floodplain without shield loss
BigFree: lets put the WF on the FP
BigFree:
Kloreep: ?
BigFree: also change WF in Thors Hammer for 33 to 1
BigFree: *from 3-3
Kloreep: Why?
Togas: ??
Togas: the jungle?
Kloreep: That just takes food away
BigFree: no, the coast
BigFree: doh
Kloreep: You mean to 9?
BigFree: I was using the tile numbering systme
Kloreep: Ah
Kloreep: 3-3 to 9 in directional turns
BigFree: same food and commerce
BigFree: I know
Kloreep: *terms
BigFree: I interchanged them
Kloreep: k, looks good
BigFree: I want New AsgARD TO CHANGE FORM 7 TO 7-4
Kloreep: Though why was that grass not mined?
BigFree: iT WILL BE
BigFree: oops
Togas: extra trade
BigFree: right
Octavian_X: Well, this was fun.
Kloreep: Looks good
BigFree: HAHA
Octavian_X: I'm off to sleep.
BigFree: later Oct
Kloreep: Night
Togas: night
Octavian_X: g'night folks, and have fun.
BigFree: Paddy< you cool?

Octavian_X departs the Senate

Paddy: yes, in deed
BigFree: ok
BigFree: anything else?
Kloreep: Valhalla is overproducing
Kloreep: But there's no way to get more commerce
BigFree: without losing food, yes. oh well
Kloreep: SAG WF:
Kloreep: 7-7 to 7-4
Kloreep: More growth
Paddy: ok
BigFree: right, already did that I thought
Paddy: does not hurt production
Kloreep: whoops, k
Kloreep: I know I had mentioned it but didn't think it chonged
Kloreep: Nothing else I can see
BigFree: ok

Then the President gave forth the command
BigFree: END TURN
Togas:

Here as you will see from picture 3, the Persians land on the island to our west.
This causes a rumble of dissatisfaction across the senate floor
Togas: my god, the AI loves that southern island
Togas: and the Persians are going to settler West of Jaen
BigFree: damn those persians

* Kloreep shakes his fist at the Persian settler

[Paddy]

TurnChat 14 Part III – As recorded by the Minister of the Interior.

The President calls a time frame for this current session
BigFree: I only want to play this one more turn
Paddy: got a good snap shot of them landing
BigFree: two is enough
Togas: aww
BigFree: we'll shoot for two turns a week
Togas: keep going!
BigFree: I mean this turn
BigFree: we can play it
BigFree: but not hit end turn
Paddy: you the Prez
Togas: you oughta do 3 turns one night, 2 turns 4 days later
BigFree: I have to wake up in 6 hours
Togas: then alternate
BigFree: I will try Togas
Togas:
BigFree: Writing up the rport takes some time as well
BigFree:

And then back to the business at hand
BigFree: Makahlua
BigFree: damn!
BigFree: Move settler into New Asgard
Paddy: ok
BigFree: Pillage road with NM the Warrior
BigFree: Move BMJ into RoV
BigFree: Set Val to build Warrior
BigFree: Sentry Son's of Klorrep
Paddy: got them onto the mountain this time

The Madrid Express
BigFree: Load Sneaky Pete and Settler onto Madrid Express
BigFree: Move Madrid Express inot Raiding Base
Paddy: is BBJ on an exploration trip to the bottom of the southern island

Ormuzd enters the Senate

ormuzd: hi
BigFree: yes

And more unit orders are made / discussed / argued about
Togas: probably want to move new archer from valhalla into SAG
Togas: for happiness purposes, etc
BigFree: Move Sneaky pete and settler 2
Kloreep: The americans must have a lot of REXing room... Washington is small
Togas: wow, tenochtitlan is at 10!
Kloreep: Must have a lot of luxes
Togas: BFM will be curious to hear that.
Kloreep: Togas: Could be they've built temple, col, market, etc.

The new archer gets his title
BigFree: we need name for new archer?
Kloreep: Yep
BigFree: How about "Tommy Gun the Archer"
BigFree: in honor of Togas
Kloreep: Sure
Paddy: ok
BigFree: New archer in Val named "Tommy Gun the Archer"
BigFree: Tommy Gun moved into SAG

And then the unit orders for Big Bad John were made / discussed / argued about
BigFree: what to do with BBJ?
BigFree: 2 or 4?
Paddy: 4, closer mystery
BigFree: Move BBJ 4
Kloreep: Goody hut!
BigFree: hmm
BigFree: possibly anotyher island
BigFree: it may be connected though

[Paddy]

TurnChat 14 Part IV – As recorded by the Minister of the Interior.

And more on the mighty galley ‘Thors Sickle’
BigFree: Lets move Thors Sickle 8-4 then decide what to do from there
BigFree: we cant go south, we're blocked in
Kloreep: Or we could make Makahlua next
Kloreep: *move
BigFree: then she cant load if we need
Kloreep: See if the island ends with the silks
Kloreep: True
BigFree: let move the galley first
Kloreep: Okay, galley first
BigFree: Move Thor's Sickle 8-4
BigFree: small island
Kloreep: You were right, we need to load this turn-
BigFree: lets load mak
BigFree: Load Mak then move Thors Sickle 7
Kloreep: 8?
Kloreep: Right, 7

And more unit orders are made / discussed / argued about
BigFree: I think we should make plans to get the Persian Hatred Committee worker to our island down south
BigFree: we send Madrid express to pick him up next turn
Paddy: ok
BigFree: Move said worker to Filed sof Gold then fort
BigFree: or not since he crosses river
BigFree: :P

The President calls for any other business
BigFree: anything else?
BigFree: WF?
Paddy: looking
BigFree: RoV WF from 6 to 3-3
Paddy: RoV, WF that was on tile NM warrior pillaged
Paddy: yeah that one
BigFree: cool
BigFree: I dont see anyting else
BigFree: That only took a little over an hour for two turns
Paddy: nothing else

The President calls for end of session
BigFree: ok, save it


BigFree: thanks for coming

Ormuzd debates the Senate
Kloreep debates the Senate
BigFree debates the Senate
Paddy debates the Senate

Togas last seen relaxing in the Senate stalls looking over a scroll or two

[Togas]

MUCH THANKS to Paddy for that fun and very entertaining retelling of the chat!

--Togas

[Paddy]

Cheers Togas.

Thanks to all for their patience in waiting for these reports to get posted. They needed to be checked over by the President prior to release. And my plantation is on the other side of our Country from the Presidents cattle property, well these things can take some time to coordinate.

For those that could not make it, feel free to leave any feedback that you feel could assist in the next session of the Senate.

As I am learning, it is easy to be a part of the Senate. You just need to show up, load the Sacred Save and enter your thoughts.

As members of the Demogame Civ Group, all are welcome on the Senate floor. So maybe it is time to get out of the Pub for a hour or two; leave those maids for some deserved rest; let your managers look after your wood shops; gather your Axe and Shield and come along and be apart of the Senate Session.

Now, standby for news on Turn Chat / Senate Session Number 15!

[ormuzd]

Just one question - where is the official save?

[Paddy]

Originally posted by ormuzd
Just one question - where is the official save?

Locked in the Presidents safe.

We are awaiting his return.

[BigFree]

Here's the "Official" save. You know the rules. No playing ahead, no yada yada yada....

Paddy wrote up the turn report much better than I could have done. Thanks again Paddy.