VBulletin Version 3?

Imran Siddiqui · January 25, 2004, 04:10

A couple of other forums I frequent have updated their vBulletin boards to version 3, and I must say I like the change. Is there any hope that in the future Poly will be going that route?

Nubclear · January 25, 2004, 04:33

No.

Urban Ranger · January 25, 2004, 04:49

Imran,

Which aspect(s) do you like?

alva · January 25, 2004, 04:59

To put it differently, what is new?

IIRC Markos said he would make the change once it had proven itself. (This was some time ago though)

Gramphos · January 25, 2004, 05:15

As far as I know markos sees no need to update, and also all the forum hacks in place makes it very hard to perform an upgrade to VB3. Eventually it will come, but probably not as long as markos isn't very active.

Skanky Burns · January 25, 2004, 08:35

The forum hacks are what are keeping us from upgrading.
It will be a difficult task getting all the hacks installed in the new version of VB3, if only because there are so many of them.

Zopperoni · January 25, 2004, 09:15

Some hacks wouldn't be compatible with this new version either.
As long security isn't compromised, there's no need to upgrade.

Skanky Burns · January 25, 2004, 09:32

Although new features need to be weighed against features lost.

Nikolai · January 25, 2004, 09:38

Is there any list available to compare from?

Skanky Burns · January 25, 2004, 10:15

http://www.vbulletin.com/features/index.html has a list of features available in VB3. Obviously, there is no list as such for Apolyton's hacks.

Gramphos · January 25, 2004, 11:16

Your list only includes majur VB features, all already in VB2

Skanky Burns · January 25, 2004, 11:24

Twas the only list I could find. Feel free to search for a more indepth one.

PLATO · January 25, 2004, 11:43

Personally, I don't see a problem with the way things work now. Upgrading for just upgradings sake doesn't necessarily make sense. The old adage of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" would seem to apply.

Gramphos · January 25, 2004, 12:31

I don't have time looking for feature lists. However, I did some remembering, trying to figure out what hacks are installed on Poly

Attachments as files
Avatars as files
civgroups (the icon and forum permission part + memberlist action groupmembers)
Country flags
Directory User integration
Dr Spike competion #1
my threads
archive in of database tables
date/time format user option
forum cache
quick reply
quick PM reply
downlaod PMs
Who am I a buddy of
/me vBcode
my notepad
adjusted forum pages based on server load (avatars on/off and similar)
multiple chooise polls
IRC chat integration
Today's Registrations: (I think)
other internal code changes related to ads (go.php)
some features of which I may not speak

Some of these things are featured in VB 3, but might need conversions from the current system to work correctly.

Conclustion: We will not see VB3 here until Markos has more time.

Gramphos · January 25, 2004, 12:36

forgot the upload feature

vmxa1 · January 25, 2004, 13:05

That is a lot of great features.

PLATO · January 25, 2004, 13:47

What "extras" could an upgrade bring that would risk losing (even temporarily) the list Gramphos just posted?

Agathon · January 25, 2004, 16:06

Some different colour schemes would be good. I hate all the ones on here.

Skanky Burns · January 25, 2004, 19:35

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Originally posted by Gramphos
forgot the upload feature

You can't really count that one though.
Considering it doesn't work.

Gramphos · January 25, 2004, 19:40

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Originally posted by Skanky Burns

You can't really count that one though.
Considering it doesn't work.

Well, it isn't mush of a forum hack either. just the username part, and I think tha (if it had worked now) it still would work with VB3

Imran Siddiqui · January 25, 2004, 20:35

Quote:

Which aspect(s) do you like?

It's faster for one (on the forums I've used it on). Has a very nice great look. Much easier Search function (a pop down box instead of a new page if you want). They have searches in specific threads (for the monster 400 post threads). And a lot of stuff has been combined or made into pop down bars for easy access. And my favorite: Active Viewers of THREADS.

Quote:

What "extras" could an upgrade bring that would risk losing (even temporarily) the list Gramphos just posted?

Most of those are included, such as Quick Reply, mult choice polls, and attachments (IIRC).

Jaguar · January 25, 2004, 23:57

I

quick reply.

Imran Siddiqui · January 26, 2004, 00:25

Me too

.

And I

your avatar.

FrustratedPoet · January 26, 2004, 01:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Gramphos [*]Dr Spike competion #1

This is a forum hack? What did I miss?

Urban Ranger · January 26, 2004, 01:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Quote:

Which aspect(s) do you like?

It's faster for one (on the forums I've used it on).

This other one I frequent has constant database troubles

Imran Siddiqui · January 26, 2004, 02:56

And it just is cooler looking.. damn it

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Gramphos · January 26, 2004, 03:14

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And it just is cooler looking.. damn it

.

It's a styles question, and all the old styles would have to beturned into VB3 format with an upgrade. (That's an enourmous ammount of work)

Gramphos · January 26, 2004, 03:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Quote:

What "extras" could an upgrade bring that would risk losing (even temporarily) the list Gramphos just posted?

Most of those are included, such as Quick Reply, mult choice polls, and attachments (IIRC).

Well, I would guess that the mult choice polls and attachment (as files???) are incompatible withe the current hacks, since both of them have involved changes in the database structure. So even if VB3 has similar stuff it isn't sure that it will work the same in the backend. And what I think of VB3 is that it still uses the old attachments backedn sytem, but allows multiple attachments in the same post (IIRC) (But I've not seen a feature list since some time during VB3 alpha phase)

Skanky Burns · January 26, 2004, 03:43

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Originally posted by FrustratedPoet

This is a forum hack? What did I miss?

Well spotted!
I missed that one.

Urban Ranger · January 26, 2004, 04:09

Quote:

Originally posted by Gramphos
It's a styles question, and all the old styles would have to beturned into VB3 format with an upgrade. (That's an enourmous ammount of work)

I think you can do it with CSS.