LEADERHEAD: George Washington

KlarJanice · January 25, 2004, 11:25

On request, I've started working on a George Washington leaderhead. Thought I'd post a quick preview.

Smellincoffee, I hope you like it.

vmxa1 · January 25, 2004, 13:22

It is well done, but I am not sure about the facial expression on th efirst one. What is it meant to convey?

Azeem · January 25, 2004, 13:28

Very nice.

In a strange way, the face kind of reminds me of President Clinton.

Smellincoffee · January 25, 2004, 18:29

It looks similar to Firaxis' leaderheads.

What do the other eras look like?

Jaguar · January 26, 2004, 00:15

He looks really really good. I like Abe too, but he gets boring after a while.

KlarJanice · January 26, 2004, 03:22

vmxa1: It *should* look happy, but don't worry, it's just a preview. Haven't worked on it more than a couple of hours in total - planning to improve it!

Azeem: Clinton?

You really need to explain me why...

Smellincoffee: No other eras so far. But you'll see the pics posted as soon as I start working on them.

Brundlefly · January 26, 2004, 15:28

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Originally posted by vmxa1
It is well done, but I am not sure about the facial expression on th efirst one. What is it meant to convey?

constipation

KlarJanice · January 27, 2004, 03:20

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Originally posted by bfg9000

constipation

...oh my. You really don't like my work, do you?

A man without mercy, that's what you are!

Brundlefly · January 27, 2004, 10:33

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Originally posted by KlarJanice

...oh my. You really don't like my work, do you?

A man without mercy, that's what you are!

Actually, I think you've done a fine job with this artwork. i was just trying to be funny, that's all..

GhengisFarb™ · January 29, 2004, 10:08

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Originally posted by KlarJanice

...oh my. You really don't like my work, do you?

A man without mercy, that's what you are!

Nope the Firaxis ones go from ecstasy to constipation too.

It looks very good, are you going to have the head move also?

MartynC · January 30, 2004, 00:11

Why is it Ab Lincoln for the Americans & not George Washington? is he not the First President of The US?.

Smellincoffee · January 30, 2004, 03:00

Most people consider Honest Abe to be the "best" president the USA had due to his managment of the Civil War.

I, however, prefer Washington.

He didn't even have a country to hold together, yet he managed to do it.

KlarJanice · January 31, 2004, 07:26

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb

It looks very good, are you going to have the head move also?

Hmmm... reading this I have the feeling you might have gotten the (wrong) impression that I've been working with Poser... but... err... although I was able to get my hands on the program for Christmas, it looks like no matter what I do to edit them all the faces keep looking the same.

And I cannot find out how to edit clothing, and hairstyle, for example (any hint/suggestion welcome

)

So... I am just playing with Photoshop at the moment. I found the picture of a marble statue that looked appropriate, I colored it... and this is the result. :P
Guess it will take quite some time before I complete the leaderhead though...

GhengisFarb™ · February 1, 2004, 12:48

You did an excellent job of coloring it then. I had thought you were using another 3d program other than Poser though. The model looked a little more "solid" than most Poser model and I had kinda wondered if it was being done in Maya.

Brundlefly · February 2, 2004, 10:05

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Originally posted by Smellincoffee
Most people consider Honest Abe to be the "best" president the USA had due to his managment of the Civil War.

I, however, prefer Washington.

He didn't even have a country to hold together, yet he managed to do it.

The end of the Civil War was not truly the end of the animosity between North and South. There are many people who consider Ulysses Grant, the president immediately following Lincoln, as the greatest President ever. Grant presided over the Reconstruction at a time when the country could very easily lapsed back into Civil War.

GhengisFarb™ · February 9, 2004, 21:29

Your kidding right? US Grant is considered one of the worst Presidents in the history of the US. He is ALWAYS one of the three worst, usually THE worst.

Plotinus · February 10, 2004, 07:32

I'm reliably informed - by my friend from Texas - that the animosity between North and South remains alive to this day. I'm also informed that the South is due to rise again, although precise details of the timetable and indeed events are hard to come by. There's also something about the Texan empire being reborn from the ashes, but I'm not sure exactly what that's all about.

Brundlefly · February 10, 2004, 11:56

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Your kidding right? US Grant is considered one of the worst Presidents in the history of the US. He is ALWAYS one of the three worst, usually THE worst.

Give me some reference material to back that up.

Are you talking about popular opinion or scholarly opinion? Here's a recent popular opinion poll by ABC News.

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Who's the greatest president?

This year Last year
Lincoln 20% 14% (third)
Kennedy 14 16 (second)
G. W. Bush 13 0
Clinton 8 9 (fourth)
Reagan 8 18 (first)
FDR 8 6 (fifth)

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ahem. nuff said.

Um, I cant find anything to back up what I said either.

But I did see a PBS show on Grant where they said the same thing I'm trying to say. And I found this info on a website that has done some research trying to determine greatest president and ranked Grant 5th:

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What Washington, Eisenhower and Grant have in common.

Does this list make sense? Is Grant really one of our greatest Presidents, when his administration was ridden with scandal?

Yes. Washington, Eisenhower and Grant all have three things in common. They were the commanding Generals in the three indisputably "good" wars the United States ever fought: the War for Independence, the Civil War, and World War II.

Then, they presided over two peacetime economic boom terms.

Also, according to Geoffrey Perret's biography of Ulysses S. Grant, Grant virtually invented the modern army organization.

asleepathewheel · February 10, 2004, 13:04

wow, those look really really good

GhengisFarb™ · February 10, 2004, 13:23

Quotes (mostly from stuff on the internet though, I just searched for "President Grant worst" and took some excerpts

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Although often ranked as one of the worst presidents, some important steps were taken during his presidency. The 14th and 15th Amendment was ratified. The Justice Department wa created. Grant took efforts to continue protecting black rights, including the use of Federal troops. He promoted an important Civil Rights Act. It was only after his Administration that the newly won civil rights of Blacks were esentially lost. Some modern historians bnow suggest that Grant championed priciples that we now see as self evident at a time that they were under threat.

-Some website with US Grant biography.

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Grant is normally viewed as one of the two or three worst Presidents...

- quote from President Clinton

Note that the custodians of his own tomb, the people responsible for keeping it up and running and telling people of his life list this in their official pamplet:

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Out of 41 Presidents, historians ranked Grant 33rd, included in this catagory were Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, and James Garfield whose presidency only lasted 6 months, most of which time he spent attempting to recover from an assassin's bullet.

I'm not trying to make fun of you, its just that whole Grant as a great President hit me from left field.

The funny thing was the more I looked at the info from the Grant's Tomb people, its just all stuff trying to defend the fact that "he isn't the worst President there ever was." It was actually kinda funny.

If I was to choose "great" or even "popular" Presidents and I wanted to find some one with some historical "umph" I would go with Theodore Roosevelt, he really was a great President and BOTH parties believe that. He is also the President that gave the US its vision and set it on its rendevous with destiny so to speak.

AroSch · February 10, 2004, 14:59

Looks good.

Are you planning to make some more leaderheads the same way? For example Washington's opponent Georg III.?

Mobilize · February 16, 2004, 22:28

Greatest President: Thomas Jefferson
Worst President: George W. Bush

Those are in my opinion..

Theodore Roosevelt, F. D. Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy, and (can't think of his first name at the moment) Jackson leaderheads are needed.

MartynC · February 17, 2004, 16:39

Worst Equal: George W Bush & Hillary Clinton
Best Equal: George Washington & John Adams

Agathon · February 17, 2004, 19:52

Looks good to me.

How about Thatcher? That would be a challenge.

PresidentMarcos · February 19, 2004, 21:19

I'd like to see an FDR leaderhead.

Ouro_827 · February 19, 2004, 21:27

Personally, I like Grant.... As for leaderheads, FDR, Truman, and Wilson would be the most interesting...

Hagbart · February 21, 2004, 12:36

Wow excellent! Already looks very good. Which programme do you use to create these?

KlarJanice · April 13, 2004, 04:52

After a long period of absence (I moved and had no Internet connection for quite a while) I seem to be finally back. Let's see if I can manage to complete this project...

Noffius · July 24, 2004, 13:49

Please finish this one. Its quite good!