Janet Jackson's Superbowl

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by JohnT
Drudge report is down. MTV has taken picture 12 off their website.

What have I done to offend thee, my Lord?

We saved the pics to our harddrive last night.

Who wants copies?

[Pekka]

Nah yeah I understand the logic behind the nipple rule. I mean you have to set the limit somewhere. And I'm not sure if full frontal nudity like guys jumping into snow naked with their willies showing is a good idea for commercial in there. You know, it might be, but not anymore as the limit has been set. I'd change it so that nipples can be shown. The limit would go in showing pubig hair which wouldn't be allowed. You can show butt, boobies, but you can't show the downtown area, or the hair. I think that's a good rule. We're definitely not sexually liberated, but we have no problems with nudity.

Basically I see it as a problem. I mean, young folks they might get the idea that there's something wrong with the nudity and eventually in their bodies and that it's dirty. It's not dirty, it's natuarl. Some people don't want it on their TV, that's fine and reasonable. But nipples? Come on. That's were kids get milk to grow. Nipples are a good thing and so are boobs, and not just in sexual way. But I might agree and say that commercials with clear sexual tension should be placed later on the day and not 3PM between kids shows. Nudity could be allowed, if it's funny and works as a commercial... take it from there on.. every case individually.. nothing wrong with nipples though. And what's with it anyway, you can have piece of tape covering your nipple and then show the boobie. That's like the same thing, except that when it's kind of not allowed, it creates sexual tension and dirty feelings.. but it's just nipples.

Anyway, I for one did NOT miss Janet Jacksons boobs. I think there was a streaker as well.

[alva]

The limit would go in showing pubig hair which wouldn't be allowed.

So shaven parts would be allowed?

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by alva

Quote:

The limit would go in showing pubig hair which wouldn't be allowed.

So shaven parts would be allowed?

shaved ***** but not hairy asses? What a double standard. No way I'm shaving my ass just to be in some ad.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Everyone's upset about Janet's nipple, but who's complaining about the Bud ads that were scathingly anti-woman.

Yeah, that one with the ref's screaming wife was probably the most stupidly offensive with no possible redeeming value ads I've ever seen.

Nothing funny, nothing well done, just the screaming nag and the poor victim guy, get him a beer and shut up, *****.

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It's pretty obvious from the way the boob-armor piece came off that it was designed for that, but the reaction is pretty ridiculously overblown.

[Pekka]

alva, of course not Well if it's up to me sure, but you need to take it slowly step by step.

[Japher]

Naked Janet

Naked guy dancing around in the middle of the field just before the 2nd half

[Docfeelgood]

Holy ****, what a bunch of prudes. In europe, they show tits in commercials all the time. ( Not here, though. )

Don't be to harsh on em, its a hormon thing

[The Mad Monk]

Hormone or Mormon?

[-Jrabbit]

Hmm... Janet was not wearing a bra but her nipple was covered, and was quoted last week about how she had a "surprise" planned for her performance.

One of the most blatantly transparent (and tasteless) PR attempts at reviving a flagging music career in recent mammary...

Too bad I got disgusted with the choice of musical guests and missed that part...

[Gibsie]

Obviously, being British I didn't see it and wouldn't want to see it. The BBC decided that it would be a good move to show the movie "Black Sunday" (About terrorists trying to do their thing at the Super Bowl) at the exact same time as the Super Bowl though... good one!

[MrFun]

I can't be arsed to read all the previous posts -- but didn't the guy rip Janet's shirt off? If so, what was the guy thinking?

[DanS]

I think the content on many of the pre 10 pm shows has gotten out of hand. This Super Bowl is just the straw that broke the camel's back. Time for the FCC to restore a little bit of balance.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by MrFun
I can't be arsed to read all the previous posts -- but didn't the guy rip Janet's shirt off? If so, what was the guy thinking?

Read all the previous posts

[Imran Siddiqui]

Dissident, if it had only been one commercial which was about a making fun of a woman, that would have ben one thing. When you had several different ones in a row, it bespeaks a general attitude. On the other hand, Budweiser commercials general seem to hold their consumers in low regard.

You just have no sense of humor... especially when women laughed at that ad as well .

(btw, does this mean that the way men are treated on shows like 'Sex and the City' bespeaks a general anti-male sentiment?)

[Flubber]

On ther Janet Jacksom thing . . . I have mixed feelings

- ON one hand, Americans are so prudish compared to most countries-- it was a flash of a breast with a nipple covered . .. not a big deal-- heck when I was in Cuba there were topless women everywhere. It soon seems normal and natural.

-- ON THE OTHER HAND-- it was really a cheap stunt done for no other reason than to be a cheap stunt-- It counted on its shock value

[DanS]

The nipple wasn't covered. Get thee to Drudge for a close-up.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


Read all the previous posts

bah

[alva]

-- ON THE OTHER HAND-- it was really a cheap stunt done for no other reason than to be a cheap stunt-- It counted on its shock value

True, but it only has shock value in (puritan) U.S. or in some fundamentalistic islamic hell-hole...

[chequita guevara]

I'll bet the "malfuntion" was that both breasts didn't get uncovered.

[Jon Miller]

that is what I thought too

the close up is off drudge

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by alva

Quote:

-- ON THE OTHER HAND-- it was really a cheap stunt done for no other reason than to be a cheap stunt-- It counted on its shock value

True, but it only has shock value in (puritan) U.S. or in some fundamentalistic islamic hell-hole...

we are deffinitely not puritan

we just like our sex dirty and our women half naked

Jon Miller

[Dis]

am I the only one concerned about this. The FCC has been upping punishments on profanity. With this Bush religious goverment in place today, I'm worried they may do something drastic.

Like not show the superbowl live and delay it by 10 seconds or so. What do you think?

[The Mad Monk]

...and the FCC stands up:

FCC launches investigation into halftime show

By Jonathan D. Salant
The Associated Press

The chief federal regulator of broadcasting said Monday he was "outraged" by the Super Bowl halftime show in which Justin Timberlake tore off part of Janet Jackson's costume, exposing her breast, and said he was ordering an immediate investigation.

Timberlake blamed a "wardrobe malfunction," but Federal Communications Commission chief Michael Powell called it "a classless, crass and deplorable stunt."

MTV, which produced the show, and CBS, which broadcast it, both said they had no idea that their halftime show Sunday night would include such a display.

"CBS deeply regrets the incident," spokeswoman LeslieAnne Wade said.

The two singers were performing a flirtatious duet to end the halftime show, with Timberlake singing, Rock Your Body, and the lines he sang at the moment of truth were: "I'm gonna have you naked by the end of this song."

With that, Timberlake reached across Jackson's leather gladiator outfit and pulled off the covering to her right breast, which was partially obscured by a sun-shaped, metal nipple decoration.

The network quickly cut away from the shot, and did not mention the exposure on the air.

In a statement, Powell said, "I am outraged at what I saw during the halftime show of the Super Bowl. Like millions of Americans, my family and I gathered around the television for a celebration. Instead, that celebration was tainted by a classless, crass and deplorable stunt. Our nation's children, parents and citizens deserve better."

He told the commission to open an investigation, promising it would be "thorough and swift." Such an investigation could result in a fine of up to $27,500 or -- if the FCC applied the sanction to each CBS station -- in the millions.

Messages left with Jackson's record company and her personal publicist were not returned Monday morning.

The FCC has come under fire from lawmakers and outside groups who say the agency hasn't done enough to shield the public from indecent programming on radio and TV.

Legislation has been introduced in Congress to increase by 10-fold the $27,500 maximum fine that the FCC can levy for indecency. The Bush administration has endorsed the bill raising the fine to $275,000. The agency itself has said it may start issuing the fine per incident rather than per program, and is talking about revoking licenses.

Last month, the FCC proposed a $755,000 fine against Clear Channel Communications for the "Bubba the Love Sponge" program that aired multiple times on four of its Florida radio stations. The fine was a record for a single complaint. The largest cumulative fine for indecency was $1.7 million paid by Infinity Broadcasting in 1995 for various violations by Howard Stern.

MTV, CBS' corporate cousin in Viacom, issued an apology, saying the incident was "unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional and was inconsistent with assurances we had about the content of the performance."

Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson's breast.

"I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl," Timberlake said in a statement. "It was not intentional and is regrettable."

Wade said CBS officials attended rehearsals of the show all week, "and there was no indication any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS' broadcast standards, and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended."

The show also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock.

NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue called the conduct "offensive, embarrassing to us and our fans, and inappropriate."

"We will change our policies, our people and our processes before the next Super Bowl to ensure that this entertainment is far more effectively dealt with," he said.

Joe Browne, NFL executive vice president, said earlier that it was "unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."

Over-the-air television channels cannot air "obscene" material at any time and cannot air "indecent" material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. The FCC defines obscene material as describing sexual conduct "in a patently offensive way" and lacking "serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value." Indecent material is not as offensive but still contains references to sex or excretions.

In an interview posted on MTV.com in the days before the show, Jackson's choreographer, Gil Duldulao, talked about the show, saying: "She's more stylized, she's more feminine, she's more a woman as she dances this time around. There are some shocking moments in there too."

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/entertain...printstory.jsp

[Dis]

am I the only one concerned about this. The FCC has been upping punishments on profanity. With this Bush religious goverment in place today, I'm worried they may do something drastic.

Like not show the superbowl live and delay it by 10 seconds or so. What do you think?

[Az]

launching investigation...

We had hardcore porn during the news.

[Gibsie]

They're actually showing the event on daytime news over here... and from how they're showing it, it doesn't look any worse than what you see worn at a typical Hollywood premiere.

[Guynemer]

Agreed.

I don't see how this is any worse than what starlets wear to award shows; no mistaking a nipple on many of those sheer dresses.


I'd like to amend that, actually. Not "I don't see how this is any worse." But, I don't see how this is bad at all. It's only a nipple. Can we get over that, people? We have nipples. Women have developed breasts in addition to nipples. Their primary purpose is the nourishment of young humans, NOT sex.

As a culture, we really need to grow the **** up.

[Thorn]

I was listening to NPR, President Bush will address the nation at 9pm tonight to declare all women's breasts unamerican.

[chequita guevara]

Bush says he slept through the half time show.