February 4, 2004, 21:47
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Russia plans nuclear wargame
Next week, Russia will conduct a simulated nuclear attack on the US as part of a large scale wargame.
I thought the Cold War was over?
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MOSCOW (AP) -- Russia's nuclear forces reportedly are preparing their largest maneuvers in two decades, an exercise involving the test-firing of missiles and flights by dozens of bombers in a massive simulation of an all-out nuclear war.
President Vladimir Putin is expected to personally oversee the maneuvers, which are apparently aimed at demonstrating the revival of the nation's military might and come ahead of Russian elections in March.
The business newspaper Kommersant said the exercise was set for mid-February and would closely resemble a 1982 Soviet exercise dubbed the "seven-hour nuclear war" that put the West on edge.
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http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/sto...S&SECTION=HOME
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February 4, 2004, 21:55
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Maybe Putin has a premptive doctrine of his own.
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February 4, 2004, 21:57
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Oh goody, I can still pretend that one day I can wear that leather jacket with no sleeves and have a dog named "dogmeat" at my side. 
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February 4, 2004, 22:00
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Sounds like Putin's pulling a "Let's go to Mars!" on the Russian people 
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February 4, 2004, 22:09
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Bread for the circus.
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February 4, 2004, 22:36
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Putin is a madman.
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February 4, 2004, 22:37
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Originally posted by mrmitchell
Putin is a madman.
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Indeed, but hardly because of this.
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February 4, 2004, 22:40
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Funny that you never hear about U.S. wargames. Oh, right, that's because we do it for real.
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February 4, 2004, 22:44
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 Smiley: Last year we had one for faking intelligence, misleading the nation, and invading a random foreign hellhole with lots of oil...oh...wait...
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February 4, 2004, 22:47
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Originally posted by mrmitchell
Smiley: Last year we had one for faking intelligence, misleading the nation, and invading a random foreign hellhole with lots of oil...oh...wait...
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Aaaaaaaa. I think I remember a thread about it.
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February 4, 2004, 22:50
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How are these essays simulating a "nuclear war with the US"? Are unarmed missiles supposed to land on American territory? Is the US quoted as a "simulated" target at all?
I'm against these essays, especially in an electoral context  It just means Russians have been brainwashed to love seeing they can spill foreigner's blood
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February 4, 2004, 22:56
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Actually, it's probalby more to pander to the hardliners who want to see the Soviet Union reconstituted and the military built up again.
Usually at the expense of the people
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February 4, 2004, 23:22
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And who else in the world would the Russian Strategic Forces go 'all out' against?
God save us, and let Him ensure that those antique systems are working properly. We really don't need any 'oops, there it goes.'
I'm not even a theist, really, but I'll take whatever assurances I can get against a revival of nuclear insanity.
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February 4, 2004, 23:27
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February 4, 2004, 23:29
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Originally posted by notyoueither
And who else in the world would the Russian Strategic Forces go 'all out' against?
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China. Don't forget they were the most bitter enemies for decades, even more bitter than between US and USSR.
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February 4, 2004, 23:31
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
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I liked that movie.
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February 4, 2004, 23:31
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China would not really be all-out, would they?
Yes, they have strategic weapons, however they do not have the quantity and or quality to warrant 'all out' by Russian or American standards.
'All out' means one thing and one thing only for the US and Russia. Each other.
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February 5, 2004, 00:05
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Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
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How about a nice game of chess?
No, I want to play Global Thermonuclear War.
(I paraphrased the second line)
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February 5, 2004, 00:22
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China. Don't forget they were the most bitter enemies for decades, even more bitter than between US and USSR.
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That has changed.
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February 5, 2004, 00:51
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We should play our preemtive strike game.
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February 5, 2004, 01:11
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I hope their is a nuclear war tomorrow
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February 5, 2004, 01:13
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Nuc war tomorrow? Well, I guess I'd better get some sleep.
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February 5, 2004, 01:19
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Re: Russia plans nuclear wargame
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Is that why they are throwing money into that bottomless hole called NMD?
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February 5, 2004, 01:21
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Re: Re: Russia plans nuclear wargame
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Is that why they are throwing money into that bottomless hole called NMD?
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I bet this is Russia's response to Bush's budget...
"we need missile defense because of terror!"
"we need an advanced stealth fighter because of terror!"
9-11 has been used to justify EVERYTHING... it sickens me. I hope Washington gets nuked... all of Congress dies and every cabinet member. **** em...
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February 5, 2004, 01:23
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I can still pretend that one day I can wear that leather jacket with no sleeves and have a dog named "dogmeat" at my side.
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February 5, 2004, 02:25
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Re: Re: Re: Russia plans nuclear wargame
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I bet this is Russia's response to Bush's budget...
"we need missile defense because of terror!"
"we need an advanced stealth fighter because of terror!"
9-11 has been used to justify EVERYTHING... it sickens me. I hope Washington gets nuked... all of Congress dies and every cabinet member. **** em...
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Did anyone ever tell you that you make Newsmaxians look like calm and rational people?
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February 5, 2004, 04:09
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Good news 
You people are such hypocrites, it's amazing. But I won't lower myself to your level and claim that this is against the rogue states or so.
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February 5, 2004, 04:16
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any one else open up this thread hoping some russian computer game company was designing a cool new computer game where you can wipe out civilization in a very graphic way?
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February 5, 2004, 04:17
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Putin is bringing back the empire. There is little doubt about it, as far as I see it. The real question is: will it benefit the russian people
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February 5, 2004, 04:20
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Re: Re: Re: Russia plans nuclear wargame
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Originally posted by Sava
I bet this is Russia's response to Bush's budget...
"we need missile defense because of terror!"
"we need an advanced stealth fighter because of terror!"
9-11 has been used to justify EVERYTHING... it sickens me. I hope Washington gets nuked... all of Congress dies and every cabinet member. **** em...
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hmm,
you ever think that Bush is paying Putin money to put this show of force on to garner more support for his crappy missile defense system?
how's that for a conspiracy theory?
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