Kerry Took Cash From Chinese Military Intelligence

[boann]

Monday, Feb. 2, 2004 12:02 p.m. EST

Democrats are counting on Sen. John Kerry's military credentials to convince voters that he can be trusted with America's national security.

But documents that surfaced over the weekend raise serious questions about whether Kerry was duped in the 1990s into helping the Chinese military perfect its ability to strike the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

In 1996 Kerry met with Liu Chaoying, the daughter of a powerful Chinese military official who also doubled as vice president of a subsidiary of the state-owned China Aerospace Corp.

Before the meeting, held in Kerry's Senate office, Liu's sponsor, Johnny Chung, made clear she was interested in getting her company listed on the U.S. Stock Exchange.

The Democratic presidential front-runner was only too happy to oblige and ordered his aides to contact the Securities and Exchange Commission.

"The next day," reports Newsweek, "Liu and Chung were ushered into a private briefing with a senior SEC official."

Within weeks, Chung returned the favor, staging a Kerry fund raiser at a Beverly Hills hotel that raked in $10,000 for the senator's re-election campaign.

Bank records would later show that Kerry's Chinese campaign cash came from $300,000 in overseas wire transfers sent to Chung on orders from the chief of Chinese military intelligence, Newsweek reports.

The money was routed through a Hong Kong bank account controlled by Liu, whose company later benefited from waivers granted by the Clinton administration to the U.S. aerospace giant Loral Corp.

As Liu and Chung were lining the pockets of the Democratic Party's political elite, Loral handed over top-secret missile guidance technology to Liu's firm.

Liu's China Aerospace used the information to perfect Beijing's fleet of intercontinental ballistic missiles, which before the 1990s could not strike the U.S.

By the end of the decade, however, China's ICBMs could reach the entire continental United States with pinpoint accuracy, thanks in part to the senator who says now he can be trusted with America's national security.

Chung later testified that before Liu wired him the cash to contribute to prominent Democrats, the chief of Chinese intelligence personally told him: "We like your president. We want to see him re-elected."

Apparently, Beijing felt the same way about Sen. John Kerry.

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/2/2/124555.shtml

[MrFun]

And I'm sure Republicans have never done any such questionable actions either, right??

[duke o' york]

Good!

The less money that the Chinese intelligence services have, then the less they have to spend on finding targets for these missiles they are supposed to have developed. Well done to Kerry for doing his patriotic duty!

[Jon Miller]

This was a problem I had with the Clinton Administration

JOn Miller

[GePap]

This again? This lead nowhere back in 1996-when all the conservatives went all huffy about it, called Clinton a traitor and so forth.
But I guess if they are going back to relive the 1988 election as it is, they might as well reach back to thier big-bag-o-smears from '96.

[MrFun]

Show me a perfect politician who is not corrupt one bit, and I will vote for him over any corrupt politician.

[yaroslav]

I seriously doubt what it worse: the blood-thirsty Chinese govt or the blood-thirsty Enrond & Halliburton

BTW, is Newsmax a trustable site?

[ixnay]

Ah, Newsmax.

The only news site that can make Fox News look like a left-wing circlejerk.

[yaroslav]

so, it isn't trustable

[MrFun]

**** it -- whenever we point out something that Bush may be guilty of, conservatives question our sources as if the sources are completely loony.

And another ****ing point -- there is no such thing as an uncorrupt politician -- I'm not voting for Kerry because I think he's an angel.

[Brundlefly]

Yeah, that's going to be difficult for him to face down, unfotunately.

[duke o' york]

Hiding the wings is the most difficult part of it.

[GePap]

Originally posted by MrFun
Show me a perfect politician who is not corrupt one bit, and I will vote for him over any corrupt politician.

Damn it man-stop feeidng the troll!

The republicans made all these accusations back in 1996-where did they lead? Nowhere. if there was meat to them, then we would have know rather well back in 96, yet for all the "Clinto is a traitor" bullcrap the republicans trolled out back then, this died, and it died becuase there was nothing to it.

Now they are trying to resurrect this in time for Kerry..of course, they are also ressurecting the Dukakis campaign.

I wonder if they will bring back the claims of Who lost China to the Reds?

[MrFun]

I felt like venting -- now I'm done.

[Capt Dizle]

Well, not to quibble but the Democratic party did traffic with Stalin and allow Mao to come to power in China, a mess the Republican party is still dealing with.

[GePap]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Well, not to quibble but the Democratic party did traffic with Stalin and allow Mao to come to power in China, a mess the Republican party is still dealing with.

[MrFun]

And I'm sure Republicans can be tied with support for anti-communist dictoatorships during the Cold War that have committed horrendous crimes against humanity.

[Berzerker]

OUCH!!! And I just posted a positive thread about Kerry... There's no point in trying to extol the virtues of any of these people, it'll just come back to bite you on the a$$.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by MrFun
And I'm sure Republicans have never done any such questionable actions either, right??

That's one hell of an excuse.


But mommy, everyone does it

[MrFun]

Sprayber -- show me a politician that is not corrupt.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by MrFun
Sprayber -- show me a politician that is not corrupt.

With that attitude, it's no wonder our country is going to hell

[MrFun]

It's not an attitude -- it's reality.

There are no Democrats today, nor Republicans today, that are not corrupt in one way or another -- from something minor, to something significant.

[GePap]

Can anyone here state why this whole deal just died back in "96 if there was anything significant to it? I mean, good ol Starr was out there trolling- I am sure if there was somehting to it, he could have always picked up on it..

This ended up just like "filegate", whitewater, "travelgate" and the endless other "gates" that went nowhere backn in the 90's.

[GePap]

Hmm, my post seems to have failed to register..

Lets see if this does the job.

[Winston]

This just in:

Presidential hopeful John Kerry denies allegations in Chinese campaign funds scandal. Says Kerry: "I don't even know what a Chinese is, I've never heard of them before."

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
This ended up just like "filegate", whitewater, "travelgate" and the endless other "gates" that went nowhere backn in the 90's.

With people going to jail?

[GePap]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
With people going to jail?

Haha, no

But lets follow up on your point- for some of these , people did go to jail fines were issued- and inetrestingly enough, John kerry was not one of those people, nor do I even remember his name ever coming up back then connected to this.

So the republicans are trying to beat a dead dog- of course, as I said, they are also attacking Kerry for having been part of the Dukakis admin. ni Mass. ,, so I guess we can say that fishing season has begun.

[Drogue]

Actually, I'm not sure of the issue here. It seems there's three:

1) China Aerospace's officials held a fundraiser for Kerry, netting $10,000, as thanks for him helping them list on the US Stock Exchange (I presume they mean NYSE).

2) The Chinese Government sends $300,000 to the Democratcs for reasons of "We like your president. We want to see him re-elected".

3) Clinton grants Loral, a US aerospace company, a waiver, that happens to help China Aerospace indirectly as their trading partners.

Even if

As Liu and Chung were lining the pockets of the Democratic Party's political elite, Loral handed over top-secret missile guidance technology to Liu's firm.

were true, I don't see what China Aerospace supporting Dems over Repugs has to do with an independant US firm's dealings with a Chinese firm.

A US company Kerry has nothing to do with, collaborated and traded with a foreign company. I don't see what that part has to do with Kerry. The waiver to Loral, which happened to benefit their trading partners, was Clinton's too. Now the first one, yes he did help them get listed, and yes they held a fundraiser for him in gratitude. I don't see that as a problem. It's good for the US for large companies to be listed on it's markets, isn't it?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

As long as dead horse beating is in play, why not discuss Bush's military service ad-nauseum?

[rah]

Once the nominating conventions are over, I'm sure that will start again.