February 9, 2004, 15:59
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Goverment Organization
Theirs been a bit of debate latly about the creation of new goverment positions. We have more people and more responsibilites as of latly and I think new positions would be very helpfull.
First off the Department of Inteligence would be a fine addition to our faction. This department would be tasked with analizing past saves to determine the actions of factions we are Pacted with. Along with creating Maps and predictiong enemy tec advances uing the Minute Mirrage Mod3 Tec sheet. This Department would put out report when ever it wishes rather then once a turn.
Second, spliting the External Affairs department into a Militayr and Diplomatic Core is an obvious move. We can expect to we in and out of war for most of the rest of the game so this will greatly reduce the burden on the External Affairs function.
The Editor and Chief of the Digital Data Download is another new postion which seems to be under the defacto control of Obstructor. I suspect no one realy has a propblem with making this a perminent position as I highly doubt anyone would run against or defeat Obstructor in an election for this position.
Conserning Univerity and its affairs, should all the Internal affairs of Uni fall under the single Cycon IAF and its externals falling under the likwise Cycon EAF?
Also can we have the duties of the Second fucntion clarified?
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February 9, 2004, 16:17
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for Intelligence Department.
for Military Department.
We should ask Uni members about their opinion too.
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February 9, 2004, 16:23
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Originally posted by obstructor
for Intelligence Department.
for Military Department.
We should ask Uni members about their opinion too.
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We do . They can read this anytime.
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February 9, 2004, 17:02
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What if they do not read it
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February 9, 2004, 17:54
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Originally posted by obstructor
What if they do not read it
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Well, we're all CPU members, so it doensn't really matter. Anyone can make proposals or objections anytime, hey, one might promote himself of the IAF post of the PUT.
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February 10, 2004, 08:27
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Minute Mirrage Mod3 Tec sheet.
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Where is this, exactly?
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February 10, 2004, 09:10
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A formula that tells you what choices you can research next. It works on a Modulo3 basis, and was created by Minute Mirage.
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February 10, 2004, 09:48
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Ok, to put thing in proper order on screen:
How do people feel over this organogram:
Prime Function: plays PUT and CC turn, and is our enlightned leader.
Second Function: as readed in the 'constitution' early in the game, fills in when one of the other function's can't perform.
Internal Affairs Function (CC): proposes the IAF orders for CC
Internal Affairs Function (PUT): proposes the IAF orders for PUT (perhaps should be renamed a bit, since most, if not all PUT members aren't 'functions' yet
External Affairs Function: takes care of the diplomaty for CPU (CC and PUT)
Military Affairs Function: proposes the MAF orders for CPU (CC and PUT) --> btw, for those understanding dutch, I do not think it's a function, far from that.
3D Editor Function (3DEF): Function in charge of 3D, bringing out the magazine in the main forum in a presentable form.
Gathering Intelligence Function (GIF): in charge of analyzing the other factions intentions, map making and research prediction, perhaps as well making proposals for external probe actions.
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February 10, 2004, 10:03
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I'd go for all of those with the exception of the Gathering Intelligence Function. The analysis of other factions intentions is done by the EAF and the whole faction, map making and prediction can be done by anyone, and proposals for probe actions are best done by MAF and EAF, or by consensus, IMHO.
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February 10, 2004, 10:10
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Yes, the last one is fairly intrusive on some of the other Functions, But it needed to be proposed there since Mart and Impaler were in favour of it.
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February 10, 2004, 14:20
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Well I certainly didn`t expect to be part of the government.
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February 10, 2004, 15:03
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Originally posted by obstructor
Well I certainly didn`t expect to be part of the government.
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Well, we do need someone to polish and publish our decisions. The least we can do is call it a goverment post.
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February 10, 2004, 15:09
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Originally posted by GeoModder
Well, we do need someone to polish and publish our decisions. The least we can do is call it a goverment post.
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We decided to nuke Hive to hell.
We decided to build some pools on Hive teritory.
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February 11, 2004, 00:51
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Originally posted by Drogue
A formula that tells you what choices you can research next. It works on a Modulo3 basis, and was created by Minute Mirage.
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Where can I get this, I mean.
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February 11, 2004, 01:20
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Also, you must create a position
God
Egotistical bastard who keeps destroying our bases! He's more of a threat than any of the other factions are! Our lovely Lord-in-Savior whom we worshpi everyday at our local temple
Reserved for me. Express reverence by kissing at my feet NOW!
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February 11, 2004, 01:31
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If the ID (Intelligence Department) comes to existence, i apply for the function of an analyst there
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February 11, 2004, 07:48
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Also, you must create a position
God
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No. And for a very practical reason: God does not interfere with the petty quarrels of mere low-life humans (full or cyborg). God is be above, below and beside that. Therefore no position for it is needed.
Do I feel the thread of above me now?
/me kisses Our Lord-in-Saviour's Feet.
Feeling a little afterwards by the godly odour.
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Originally posted by mart7x5
If the ID (Intelligence Department) comes to existence, i apply for the function of an analyst there
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Any info you can gather, make or find out is usefull. Even if there doesn't come a specific department for it. You can always post it in the appropriate thread
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February 13, 2004, 13:39
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External Affairs Function: takes care of the diplomaty for CPU (CC and PUT)
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If External Affairs will be splitted into diplomacy and military, IMO the above position should be renamed to Foreign Affairs.
Btw, who will fill these positions?
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February 13, 2004, 14:59
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Originally posted by Maniac
If External Affairs will be splitted into diplomacy and military, IMO the above position should be renamed to Foreign Affairs.
Btw, who will fill these positions?
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Foreign Affairs Function? FAF
I propose by the next 'elections' to let ppl put their names. For now it might be a bit difficult since Impaler (a continuous presence in the top Functions) is not capable of participating much. Only 2 or 3 turns to go for this legislature. Should be doable. Further more for the next 2-3 turns the production of PUT is fairly obvious, not much to discuss about that I think.
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February 13, 2004, 15:23
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Let hold the poll now with all positions.
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February 13, 2004, 15:25
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For the internal affairs I propose the name CIA (Conscieusness Internal Affairs) and PUB (Planetary University Bureau)
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