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Today, Sen. Kerry appeals to veterans in his quest for the White House. He invokes his Vietnam service at every turn. But an honest, enterprising reporter should ask Sen. Kerry this: Were you lying in 1971 or are you lying now? We do know that his speech was not the spontaneous, emotional, from-the-heart offering that he suggested it was. Burkett and Whitley report that instead, "it had been carefully crafted by a speech writer for Robert Kennedy named Adam Walinsky, who also tutored him on how to present it."
(jt-Now do you believe the botox rumors?)
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February 13, 2004, 02:33
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Originally posted by MrFun
I find it difficult to swallow the possibility that veterans would turn so viciously against other veterans.
Even veterans who disagree with a war that other soldiers are involved in, would not stoop down to espousing hatred for their comrades in arms.
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Read the report of Jimmytrick.
Kerry is worse than despicable. Perhaps he can get elected in the Peoples Democratic Republic of the Kennedy's. But not in the rest of America.
Talk about politicians inspiring hate!
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February 13, 2004, 02:36
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According to the MSNBC website, Kerry will be on Imus beginning at 8:29 Eastern.
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February 13, 2004, 03:01
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Ned and JT crack me up. This is why American politics is such a great spectator sport.
Kerry fights for his country, gets award medals for valour and the Republicans call him a traitor.
Only in America.
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February 13, 2004, 03:49
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I don't understand what the big deal is.
There was a time when leaders were expected to have mistresses.
Back in the day a certain Mongol leader fathered thousands of children from thousands of different women.
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February 13, 2004, 09:49
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Originally posted by Lancer
"Let's all continue to pretend:
that something which has gone on for millenia; which is currently practicsed by millions and millions of American men and women of varying race, religion and social station; which is a natural genetic instinct and does no harm if kept discrete;
is somehow a mortal character flaw."
I DARE you to show this post to your wife. 
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Guess what Lancer?
Half the married people engaging in affairs - ARE WIVES!!! 
(They tend to be more discreet then the husbands...)
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February 13, 2004, 10:17
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Originally posted by The Mad Viking
Guess what Lancer?
Half the married people engaging in affairs - ARE WIVES!!!
(They tend to be more discreet then the husbands...)
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This is inaccurate.
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February 13, 2004, 10:20
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According to Drudge, Kerry simply dismissed the story. The Sun has details though
"RESIDENTIAL hopeful John Kerry was branded a “sleazeball” last night by the parents of a young woman he allegedly tried to woo.
Alex Polier, 24, was named as the woman at the centre of a scandal that threatens to damage Democrat Kerry’s bid for the White House.
Her mother Donna claims Kerry, 60 — dubbed the new JFK — once chased Alex to be on his campaign team and was “after her”.
There is no evidence the pair had an affair, but her father Terry, 56, said: “I think he’s a sleazeball. I did kind of wonder if my daughter didn’t get that kind of feeling herself.
“He’s not the sort of guy I would choose to be with my daughter.”
Terry, of Malvern, Pennsylvania, added: “John Kerry called my daughter and invited her down to Washington two or three years ago.
“He invited her to be on his re-election committee. She talked to him and decided against it.”
Kerry is on the verge of sealing the Democratic nomination to take on George Bush in November.
The scandal broke yesterday on the Drudge Report website — which revealed President Bill Clinton’s affair with intern Monica Lewinsky.
One of Kerry’s former rivals, General Wesley Clark, told reporters earlier this week that Kerry’s campaign would “implode” over the issue.
Another Kerry rival, Howard Dean, has reversed his decision to quit the race because of the scandal.
Twice-married Kerry, a senator from Massachusetts, was last night believed to be relaxing with his wife Teresa, a Heinz heiress with a £350million fortune.
After his first marriage and before his second the Vietnam hero was a well-known playboy with TV star girlfriends.
Journalist Alex was in Kenya last night refusing to comment."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004071162,00.html
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February 13, 2004, 10:38
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typical bullshit...
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February 13, 2004, 11:04
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Originally posted by Ned
According to Drudge, Kerry simply dismissed the story. The Sun has details though
"RESIDENTIAL hopeful John Kerry was branded a “sleazeball” last night by the parents of a young woman he allegedly tried to woo.
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Oh, is this it? Empty words from "the parents of a young woman he allegedly tried to woo?"
Much ado for nothing.
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February 13, 2004, 11:15
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Dean
should be quitting about now
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February 13, 2004, 11:26
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Re: Dean
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should be quitting about now
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Why?
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February 13, 2004, 11:29
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Well, at least this time the press will not protry the (assumed) victim as a slut.
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February 13, 2004, 11:33
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OK, so where's all the salacious details? Have to admit that this is a letdown so far.
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February 13, 2004, 11:40
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Re: Re: Dean
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The posts above claimed that Dean postponed his quitting annoucement because of news of this "scandal".
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February 13, 2004, 11:43
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Re: Re: Re: Dean
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The posts above claimed that Dean postponed his quitting annoucement because of news of this "scandal".
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I must have missed that. Could you point to that please?
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February 13, 2004, 11:52
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why are the lefties walking all over women in this thread?
"yah **** all the women u want while married, its all good in da hood dawg."
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February 13, 2004, 12:00
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Not just me that thinks that is a bit of a weak scandal then  And using The Sun as a source...
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February 13, 2004, 12:03
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Originally posted by yavoon
why are the lefties walking all over women in this thread?
"yah **** all the women u want while married, its all good in da hood dawg."
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Who's walking all over women? Was anyone raped? As far as I can tell, no one has alleged that Kerry forced, coerced, or otherwise manipulated anyone into having sex with him.
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February 13, 2004, 12:05
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Salon's carrying the story, but from the angle of Republican attack tactics.
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February 13, 2004, 12:06
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Who's walking all over women? Was anyone raped? As far as I can tell, no one has alleged that Kerry forced, coerced, or otherwise manipulated anyone into having sex with him.
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I know, but thats not the position ur taking. the position all the lefties are taking is that ****ing somethin cute on the side is nothing to even look at.
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February 13, 2004, 12:08
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I know, but thats not the position ur taking. the position all the lefties are taking is that ****ing somethin cute on the side is nothing to even look at.
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First, how is that anti-women? By our positon, it would be no problem if hillary got some beefcake on the side on her way to the precidency.
The position is that past infidelity is not sufficient grounds for disqualification as a valid choice for president, anymore than past alcoholism and drug use is.
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February 13, 2004, 12:13
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Originally posted by GePap
First, how is that anti-women? By our positon, it would be no problem if hillary got some beefcake on the side on her way to the precidency.
The position is that past infidelity is not sufficient grounds for disqualification as a valid choice for president, anymore than past alcoholism and drug use is.
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it all adds up. stop pretending issues are all magic bullets, its really starting to urk me. Obviously ****ing someone else while married does not mean ur the spawn of satan. but its also DEFINITELY NOT GOOD.
oh so ur just into a whole orgy of infidelity? yah I'm sure women LUV THAT. "hey honey I know I luv u, but she just has such a great ass!"
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February 13, 2004, 12:13
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I know, but thats not the position ur taking. the position all the lefties are taking is that ****ing somethin cute on the side is nothing to even look at.
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How is this anti-woman? What, women don't like to have sex? All heterosex is rape? What?
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February 13, 2004, 12:14
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
How is this anti-woman? What, women don't like to have sex? All heterosex is rape? What?
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whoa? warp my argument more? I swear half my responses to u have to be corrections of ur abusive interpretations of my posts.
no its the insinuation that the vow of a husband to his wife is of trivial importance and breaking it simply isnt a big deal.
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February 13, 2004, 12:15
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it all adds up. stop pretending issues are all magic bullets, its really starting to urk me. Obviously ****ing someone else while married does not mean ur the spawn of satan. but its also DEFINITELY NOT GOOD.
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Neither is it relevent to chosing a leader. It's relevent to chosing a mate, but I'm not planning on marrying Kerry, so I don't care if he's heating on his wife. It has no bearing on his ability to lead nor upon his politics. It may not be good, but in this context, neither is it bad. It is irrelevent.
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February 13, 2004, 12:16
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Neither is it relevent to chosing a leader. It's relevent to chosing a mate, but I'm not planning on marrying Kerry, so I don't care if he's heating on his wife. It has no bearing on his ability to lead nor upon his politics. It may not be good, but in this context, neither is it bad. It is irrelevent.
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goes to integrity. which is relevant.
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February 13, 2004, 12:17
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no its the insinuation that the vow of a husband to his wife is of trivial importance and breaking it simply isnt a big deal.
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It may be of big importance to those who like to cluck their tongues, but it really has no bearing on a person's ability to lead.
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February 13, 2004, 12:17
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
It may be of big importance to those who like to cluck their tongues, but it really has no bearing on a person's ability to lead.
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obviously we disagree.
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February 13, 2004, 12:18
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goes to integrity. which is relevant.
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How is this anti-woman?
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