February 16, 2004, 17:54
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
So that makes the whole thing untrue?
The fact is, you can no longer pin this on "Republican Mechanations", and you can no longer dismiss it as something only covered by "rags".
Your ball.
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On the contrary.
What the real newspapers are reporting are the coverage of and denials of the baseless rumors reported in the rags.
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February 16, 2004, 17:56
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...and the willingness to coverup legitimate news they do not think is "worthy"
Who are they to tell me what I can and can not know?
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February 16, 2004, 17:59
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How is this legitimate news? There is no proof, only something said by someone who knows someone who knows someone. That isn't news by any definition.
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February 16, 2004, 17:59
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
So that makes the whole thing untrue?
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not really. the focus is on the absurdity of a more or less funny tradition in current and recent US elections campaigns. the article describes what's known so far and shows no intention to say something new.
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February 16, 2004, 18:05
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Originally posted by Guynemer
How is this legitimate news? There is no proof, only something said by someone who knows someone who knows someone. That isn't news by any definition.
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In a court of law it is call hear say evident and id often not allow. All evident from than minnor or older person who is senile is consider hear say also but the police and court listern and investable in case there is actural abuse of said person or they edivent mightnot be hear say.
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February 16, 2004, 18:08
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Originally posted by Guynemer
How is this legitimate news? There is no proof, only something said by someone who knows someone who knows someone. That isn't news by any definition.
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Which brings us back to the direct statements of the parents.
...and that's it for me, for the next six hours or so. G'night!
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February 16, 2004, 18:34
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Direct statements that completely contradict the story in the legitimate media. All other "direct statements" have only been reported in tabloids.
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February 16, 2004, 18:41
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Bait and switch. I believe girl is a red herring. Kerry has the money to fund an elaborate deception. Wait and see.
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February 16, 2004, 19:03
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What the hell kind of sense does that make?
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February 16, 2004, 19:04
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Reminds me of how the news didn't cover Bush's going AWOL last time, except for a a few papers here and there. Damn that liberal bias!
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February 16, 2004, 19:22
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Incidentally, the Kerry-Fonda photo was apparantly doctored. The right really is grasping at straws. 
http://www.newsday.com/ny-kerry0215,...-top-headlines
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February 16, 2004, 19:25
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Originally posted by Ramo
Incidentally, the Kerry-Fonda photo was apparantly doctored. The right really is grasping at straws.
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I tried. Really I did.
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February 16, 2004, 19:27
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Ah so they put you on the smearing campaign. No wonder it's so crappy. 
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February 16, 2004, 19:31
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No. I'm the one coming up with real things to beat Kerry over the head with. So far I've come up with him using his office to directly aid a contributor who was funneling millions from the "Big Dig," his involvement in the Winter Soldier investigation, his faux protest involving the medals he now talks so proudly of in his campaign website, and his attendence record in Congress.
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February 16, 2004, 19:41
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What about the Winter Soldier investigation? You're not turning into one of those Ned/jt/Newsmax types, are you? 
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February 16, 2004, 19:52
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You're not turning into one of those Ned/jt/Newsmax types, are you?
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I would have actually cared about the main thrust of this thread if that were the case.
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February 16, 2004, 20:08
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Isn't anyone else bothered by the fact this girl looks exactly like my dead ex-girlfriend?
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February 16, 2004, 20:09
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No. Why should we care if she's returned to torment you from beyond the grave?
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February 16, 2004, 20:12
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I just saw on CNN that the woman announced to the Associated Press that there was no affair between her and Kerry, and that the press has done nothing but cause her and her family excessive embarrassment over something that never happened.
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February 16, 2004, 20:12
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because I may just flip out and kill a whole bunch of people if I see the picture again...
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February 16, 2004, 20:13
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February 16, 2004, 20:22
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Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
CNN just did a story about it. They specifically pointed out that the media looking into a rumor (which is really what the Drudge Report says) is completely different from substantiated facts.
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I saw that too. They said Drudge got the story from other media looking into a rumor. They did not mention Drudge's statement that he got the story from Clark (or a Clark aid).
The CNN story amounted to a hit piece on Drudge.
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February 16, 2004, 20:27
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Originally posted by Ned
I saw that too. They said Drudge got the story from other media looking into a rumor. They did not mention Drudge's statement that he got the story from Clark (or a Clark aid).
The CNN story amounted to a hit piece on Drudge.
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NOONE other than you right now has tried to claim that Drudge got the entire story from a Clark aid. At the best, Drudge tried to use a quote from Clark as support of what he had found, possibly suggesting that the quote suggesting that Kerry had a hidden intern scandal got him to find the story in the first place. (The original quote was definately vague rather than specific.)
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February 16, 2004, 20:28
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Ramo, the doctored photo is a different photo. The doctored photo is black and white and shows Kerry standing above a microphone.
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February 16, 2004, 20:57
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Mordoch, rather than flipping back to post #1 in this thread, here is the relevant passage from Drudge's initial report,
"A close friend of the woman first approached a reporter late last year claiming fantastic stories -- stories that now threaten to turn the race for the presidency on its head!
In an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, General Wesley Clark plainly stated: "Kerry will implode over an intern issue." [Three reporters in attendance confirm Clark made the startling comments.]"
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February 16, 2004, 21:28
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Isn't anyone else bothered by the fact this girl looks exactly like my dead ex-girlfriend?
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This just in....
[b] Senator John Kerry is not only a philanderer, but a necrophiliac! [b]
It is well known that he once tried to interest a young girl in philately, and that the rumors about his wife being a thespian while in boarding school are true! Is there any perversion that this man won't stoop to? Stay tuned, if he didn't do it we'll make something up!
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February 16, 2004, 21:32
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Originally posted by Dissident
Isn't anyone else bothered by the fact this girl looks exactly like my dead ex-girlfriend?
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This just in....
Senator John Kerry is not only a philanderer, but a necrophiliac!
It is well known that he once tried to interest a young girl in philately, and that the rumors about his wife being a thespian while in boarding school are true! Is there any perversion that this man won't stoop to? Stay tuned, if he didn't do it we'll make something up!
In other news democrats campaigning in Wisconsin avoid all issues once again! "No one has taken a stand or made a valid criticism of anything since Iowa, and I don't see that changing anytime before the general election", commented an Edwards campaign staffer. "Issue free and proud to be!", was Senator Kerry's response to a question last night in a televised "debate".
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February 16, 2004, 22:53
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Originally posted by Sikander
This just in....
Senator John Kerry is not only a philanderer, but a necrophiliac!
It is well known that he once tried to interest a young girl in philately, and that the rumors about his wife being a thespian while in boarding school are true! Is there any perversion that this man won't stoop to? Stay tuned, if he didn't do it we'll make something up!
In other news democrats campaigning in Wisconsin avoid all issues once again! "No one has taken a stand or made a valid criticism of anything since Iowa, and I don't see that changing anytime before the general election", commented an Edwards campaign staffer. "Issue free and proud to be!", was Senator Kerry's response to a question last night in a televised "debate".
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More rummor and hearsay evident.
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February 16, 2004, 23:37
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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
So that makes the whole thing untrue?
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You got it backwards. Is there evidence? Is there proof?
No. It's all hearsay.
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February 16, 2004, 23:39
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This is a fun bit:
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Several British newspapers, meanwhile, named Polier and ran her photo. The story was prominently featured by the Times of London ("Dirty tricks row hits race for President") and the Sun ("New JFK Hit by Scandal"), which, like the New York Post, are owned by conservative media baron Rupert Murdoch.
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[emphasis mine]
Woman Denies Relationship With Kerry
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