Kerry in Sex scandal!!!!

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Ned
I find it more than inconsistent that these Republican parents who don't like Kerry would issue a statement that they are going to vote for him.

Now there's the real story. It is a proven fact, cause a caller said so on Rush Limburger's show, that good, hard-working Republicans are being lured to special golf clubs where they are brain-washed to vote for Kerry.

The brain-washing techniques are the same used by the Vietnamese! Bogus.com has interviewed the wife of one of these poor victims is quoted as saying: "He was a normal gun-toting, SUV-lovin husband until he went to that club. Now, he's a drug-smoking, sex fiend, bleeding heart Democrat."

Is the media covering this? No! It's another example of the media's liberal bias.

[Ned]

Tingkai, good post!

On Friday, a gun-toting, SUV-driving republican bigot who hates Kerry's guts.

On Saturday, attends the John Kery school of persuasion, golf and Swiss bank account maintenance.

On Monday, the same Republican is now a Democrat and says that John Kerry is the best person on earth and that he will vote for him.

You got it.

[Urban Ranger]

Respond to me, Ned. Where is the evidence for Kerry's "affair?"

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by Ned
Mordoch, rather than flipping back to post #1 in this thread, here is the relevant passage from Drudge's initial report,

"A close friend of the woman first approached a reporter late last year claiming fantastic stories -- stories that now threaten to turn the race for the presidency on its head!

In an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, General Wesley Clark plainly stated: "Kerry will implode over an intern issue." [Three reporters in attendance confirm Clark made the startling comments.]"

I kept that passage in mind when I made my statements. Yes, even that statement, contradicted by other reports saying that the statements were actually made by Clark aids, does not at least in of itself offer any real proof of anything. It certainly doesn't names, and especially as an off the rocord statement without context, is not necessarily anything more than wild speculation. (A couple of aids could even have no real evidence suggesting this and were stating it as wishful thinking since such an occurance would have given the Clark campaign at that time new life.)

Unless we get a specific name, or specific details that can be independantly verified the "close friend" statement doesn't mean much. The glaring problem right now is that its vague enough that no-one can prove whether this statement by Drudge is true or not in addition to the fact that other individuals need to examine the story and determine whether its credible. (Is the person actually a close friend, and does she have a history of making stuff up to get attention?)

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
This is a fun bit:



[emphasis mine]

Woman Denies Relationship With Kerry

Thanks for reinforcing what I already said.

But you get extra brownies for providing a LINK.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ned
I find it more than inconsistent that these Republican parents who don't like Kerry would issue a statement that they are going to vote for him.

Since when have Republicans ever been a model of consistency?

Considering the source of the initial quote (Brit muckraking tabloids known to outrightly make things up), I'd say the consistency problem will be shown to be Drudge and his "sources."

[Imran Siddiqui]

Are we still talking about this no evidence for sex scandel?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MrFun
Thanks for reinforcing what I already said.

But you get extra brownies for providing a LINK.

Actually, both UR and I brought up the new AP story about the family denials several pages before you said anything, and I provided a link then.

Bwahahaha.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Actually, both UR and I brought up the new AP story about the family denials several pages before you said anything, and I provided a link then.

Bwahahaha.

A super brownie goes to you then.

[CharlesBHoff]

Originally posted by Tingkai


Now there's the real story. It is a proven fact, cause a caller said so on Rush Limburger's show, that good, hard-working Republicans are being lured to special golf clubs where they are brain-washed to vote for Kerry.

The brain-washing techniques are the same used by the Vietnamese! Bogus.com has interviewed the wife of one of these poor victims is quoted as saying: "He was a normal gun-toting, SUV-lovin husband until he went to that club. Now, he's a drug-smoking, sex fiend, bleeding heart Democrat."

Is the media covering this? No! It's another example of the media's liberal bias.

All media have a bias of some sort. But the rag are so bias that it bring creditably problem to then. First some rag claim Kerry was haveing than sexual affair with than young woman without any creditably proof of any type.
If Kerry wasnot than public figure so rag can be sue for liberal and ruining than person republation.

Liz Taylor won a few million dollar liberal suit against one of these rag for it claim Liz have AIDS, when she have Pneumonia. Pneumonia can kill you it left untreated or even treated.

[The Mad Monk]

More Drudge! Get it while it's hot!

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON FEB 16, 2004 14:05:38 ET XXXXX

KERRY MYSTERY WOMAN DATED CAMPAIGN FINANCE CHIEF

**Exclusive**

A woman at the center of John Kerry intrigue dated longtime Kerry Finance Director Peter Maroney, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

When pressed by media outlets in recent week, the Kerry campaign confirmed the relationship, according to top sources.

Alex Polier on Monday denied "Internet and tabloid rumors relating to me and Senator John Kerry."

Rumors swirling around Polier ignited a behind-the-scenes campaign drama.

As first reported in this space, a serious investigation of the woman and the nature of her relationship with Sen. John Kerry has been underway at TIME magazine, ABC NEWS, the WASHINGTON POST, THE HILL and the ASSOCIATED PRESS, where the woman in question once worked.

TIME magazine's Tim Burger and ABC NEWS have developed intriguing elements to the case, sources reveal.

She would joke that she was dating the next president of the United States, says a source.

Polier's flippant remarks and flirtatious manner, according to friends, fueled the intrigue.

In an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, General Wesley Clark plainly stated: "Kerry will implode over an intern issue." [Three reporters in attendance confirm Clark made the startling comments. "This guy is going to blow up. Have you seen the NATIONAL ENQUIRER story" [on Kerry's womanizing].

The Kerry commotion is the key reason why Dean reversed his decision to drop out of the race after Wisconsin, campaign sources said.

Developing...

http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk7.htm

[Tingkai]

So Clark actually said: "This guy is going to blow up. Have you seen the NATIONAL ENQUIRER story" meaning Kerry will be royally pissed off.

And Drudge turns the quote into: "Kerry will implode over an intern issue."

Another fine example of journalism ethics.

But of course this is a Liberal media plot designed to make Republicans look like absolute idiots. The woman, afterall, was a freelance journalists so that means she must be a liberal because all journalists are liberals, especially the ones working for Fox News.

Just remember, no matter what happens, the Liberal media are always to blame.

[Urban Ranger]

So, the smearing campaign continues.

[Saint Marcus]

the woman has come forward. She denies that she had an affair with Kerry.

Case closed.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
the woman has come forward. She denies that she had an affair with Kerry.

Case closed.

[Saint Marcus]

what?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ntl/index.html

I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors in the press are completely false.


case closed

[Urban Ranger]

Igore TMM and Ned.

Boris and I have both posted links to the same news before.

[Saint Marcus]

ah, ok. I just read the first and last pages. my bad.

still...how come some people aren't convinced?

[Spiffor]

I notice I would be professional enough to work at Drudge's. Here's an example of my work, as a journalist in mafia games:

THE VILLAGE CLARION

Exclusive!
Rah and HongHu: Sweet Love or Basic Instinct?

After a long and difficult investigation, our team has finally found the evidence about the last events shaking the village.
The shocking truth is that our Mayor, RAH, has been revealed as the illegitimate lover of HongHu.

For some time now, HongHu has brought the Sun on our village, making each day brighter with her smile. But it didn't take long for some Hawks to prey on her innocence.

These days, the regulars at Guynemer's could see HongHu's wonderful smile didn't have the same feel. We can all agree it seemed sour, forced.

You don't need to look further than RAH to understand the cause of this. Indeed, our mayor got his claws on the poor woman. Our beloved HongHu could be hoping for love in our village. She only found brutality in his dreadful hand.

By his own admission, RAH "knocked her up", showing, if not bragging, that he considers our sweet dove as a mere toy. He even had the gall to give reasons for such behaviour.
"Someone had to it" said he. Yes, he was the only one of us cynical enough to be that brutal, that unconsiderate with her. We, at the Village Clarion, cannot understand how a prominent personality such as our mayor can dare call a young lady "kind of wimpy".

HongHu, presumably despaired by her relationship, was unavailable for comment.

[Ned]

Alexandra Polier's only known ties to Kerry are through a top aide, campaign finance director Peter Maroney.

A Columbia University classmate of Polier told The News that Maroney introduced her to Kerry in 2001 at an economic summit in Switzerland. "She met with [Kerry] again when the forum came to New York in 2002," the classmate said.

Maroney could not be reached for comment yesterday.

....

[A] strategist from a rival Democratic campaign warned Kerry was not safe yet if it turns out he lied. "Bill Clinton had the charm to wiggle out of those attacks. Kerry simply doesn't have that going for him," the strategist said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-144675c.html

[Ned]

The rumor of an affair with Kerry was fueled by dropout Democratic candidate Wesley Clark's claim to reporters that the Massachusetts senator would soon "implode" over an intern scandal. A day after that news broke and rumors escalated, Clark endorsed Kerry.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/18120.htm

[Ned]

There's no public evidence that John Kerry has played around on the Widow Heinz, but the poor guy probably has 57 varieties of trouble at home, anyway.
That's because wives nearly always operate from a lower standard of proof than mainstream newspapers, rarely requiring multiple sources, and suspicion alone is usually enough to convict. Some of that ketchup in the Heinz-Kerry boudoir might be blood.
This is the story Washington loves. Adultery, usually defined here as "what adults do," is not unknown in the ranks of pundits and pols, but in Washington, figuring out where the story comes from is often more interesting than the story itself. Washington honors the Platinum Rule above all: "Do it unto others before they do it unto you."
Since the political is personal, sex is the favorite weapon of choice. The Widow Heinz boasts that if she ever catches the famous war hero in flagrante delicto, she will maim, not kill, and for the moment Mr. Kerry is no doubt wearing some sort of protective contraption under his thousand-dollar suits, just in case. So far, he appears to be intact.
This little episode actually says more about everybody else than it tells us about the famous war hero. The war hero himself said it ain't so (sort of), and yesterday the mystery lady herself said it ain't so. The senator's denial smelled vaguely clintonesque: "Well, there's nothing to report. So there's nothing to talk about. I'm not worried about it. No. The answer is no." But only a Yankee bereft of gallantry or chivalric impulse would pursue this one further.
Skeptics are, however, entitled to be a little bit suspicious. All that manufactured hysteria about whether George W. Bush missed an Air National Guard drill or two, more than 30 years ago, looked like it might have been intended to distract attention from an intern scandal the Kerry camp knew, or was afraid, was coming.
We should have known that war heroes don't do things like that. And only a churl would think there's anything suspicious about how and why the father of the mystery lady, who only last week described Mr. Kerry as "a sleazeball" and said he didn't want his daughter to have anything to do with such a man, yesterday, after being visited by an epiphany, praised the senator's kindness and character. He even promised to vote for him. Every father understands that a man applying to be his daughter's sugar daddy is held to a different standard than a man who only wants to be president of the United States. You wouldn't necessarily want President Sleazeball to be your lover-in-law.
Different standards, in fact, are exactly what the Kerry contretemps are all about. The way the editors and television news directors have danced around the story, holding their noses with dainty fingers, trading gossip like a gaggle of old women and aiming readers at the Internet, contrasts starkly to the way some of the same editors, pundits and news directors treated similar unconfirmed and even unfounded rumors of presidential philandering in the past.
Matt Drudge, whose drudgereport.com is the most frequently consulted Internet source of tips and gossip in every newsroom in town, yesterday shamed a few media celebrities who disdain sexual gossip about Democrats, but who can't wait to dish the dirt about Republicans. He cites the likes of Stone Phillips, the pretty face-in-waiting at NBC; Jonathan Alter of Newsweek; and Joe Conason of the New York Observer as guilty of applying partisan standards to presidential hanky-panky.
Mr. Alter, in a fit of high-mindedness that soon passed, once wrote that presidential candidates must be asked "tough, often distasteful but nonetheless important kinds of questions." That was when the candidate was a Republican. Last week, Mr. Alter denounced as "sleazy" even asking Mr. Kerry such "important kinds of questions." Mr. Conason, one of the most devoted of the Clinton acolytes, sneers that Matt Drudge is a mere cog in "the GOP smear machine," but he wrote in 1992 that the first of a thousand reasons not to vote for George H.W. Bush was that "he cheats on his wife." (He never apologized when the rumor was discredited.)
Anyone who was awake during the Clinton years has to wonder what all the commotion is about. Even if true, there wouldn't be enough juice in the "Kerry intern scandal" to stain anybody's frock. Bubba would jog through scandals of this caliber twice before breakfast. If the Widow Heinz is looking for wifely consolation, she shouldn't call Hillary.
Wesley Pruden is editor in chief of The Times.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/pruden.htm

[Monk]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
what?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ntl/index.html

I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry,

Fine (not that I give a damn either way) but couldn't she have found some other way of saying that? It reminds me horrifically of another well-known quote.

[Ned]

Clark falls prey to anti-Kerry rumor mill

By Thomas Oliphant, 2/15/2004

POLITICS ASIDE, the quick endorsement of John Kerry by presidential candidate emeritus Wesley Clark might best be understood as an act of contrition for two egregious sins that ironically serve as bookends for this month's degrading detour into campaign slime.

The sin of commission occurred during an astonishing, even for a rookie, judgment lapse with the gaggle of reporters covering his campaign on its final day last week. Bantering with them at length under supposedly off-the-record ground rules, Clark actually said he was still in the race because he thought Kerry's campaign was going to implode over what he inelegantly called an "intern" scandal.

The sin of omission occurred in January, when Clark stood mute while filmmaker Michael Moore referred to President Bush as a "deserter" during the Vietnam War era while endorsing Clark.

....

[There is a lot more not quoted above.]

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...ry_rumor_mill/

[MrFun]

This is boring.

[Ned]

February 17, 2004--For the first time since winning in Iowa, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry has seen his national poll numbers slip. The latest Rasmussen Reports national tracking poll shows that Kerry now attracts support from 43% of the nation's Democrats, down from 51% three days ago.

North Carolina Senator John Edwards is a distant second but gaining. The North Carolina Senator now attracts support from 25% of the nation's Democrats, up from 18% three days ago.

Nationally, Howard Dean is supported by 13% of Democrats at this time.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Demo...rence_2004.htm

[CharlesBHoff]

Originally posted by Ned
There's no public evidence that John Kerry has played around on the Widow Heinz, but the poor guy probably has 57 varieties of trouble at home, anyway.
That's because wives nearly always operate from a lower standard of proof than mainstream newspapers, rarely requiring multiple sources, and suspicion alone is usually enough to convict. Some of that ketchup in the Heinz-Kerry boudoir might be blood.
This is the story Washington loves. Adultery, usually defined here as "what adults do," is not unknown in the ranks of pundits and pols, but in Washington, figuring out where the story comes from is often more interesting than the story itself. Washington honors the Platinum Rule above all: "Do it unto others before they do it unto you."
Since the political is personal, sex is the favorite weapon of choice. The Widow Heinz boasts that if she ever catches the famous war hero in flagrante delicto, she will maim, not kill, and for the moment Mr. Kerry is no doubt wearing some sort of protective contraption under his thousand-dollar suits, just in case. So far, he appears to be intact.
This little episode actually says more about everybody else than it tells us about the famous war hero. The war hero himself said it ain't so (sort of), and yesterday the mystery lady herself said it ain't so. The senator's denial smelled vaguely clintonesque: "Well, there's nothing to report. So there's nothing to talk about. I'm not worried about it. No. The answer is no." But only a Yankee bereft of gallantry or chivalric impulse would pursue this one further.
Skeptics are, however, entitled to be a little bit suspicious. All that manufactured hysteria about whether George W. Bush missed an Air National Guard drill or two, more than 30 years ago, looked like it might have been intended to distract attention from an intern scandal the Kerry camp knew, or was afraid, was coming.
We should have known that war heroes don't do things like that. And only a churl would think there's anything suspicious about how and why the father of the mystery lady, who only last week described Mr. Kerry as "a sleazeball" and said he didn't want his daughter to have anything to do with such a man, yesterday, after being visited by an epiphany, praised the senator's kindness and character. He even promised to vote for him. Every father understands that a man applying to be his daughter's sugar daddy is held to a different standard than a man who only wants to be president of the United States. You wouldn't necessarily want President Sleazeball to be your lover-in-law.
Different standards, in fact, are exactly what the Kerry contretemps are all about. The way the editors and television news directors have danced around the story, holding their noses with dainty fingers, trading gossip like a gaggle of old women and aiming readers at the Internet, contrasts starkly to the way some of the same editors, pundits and news directors treated similar unconfirmed and even unfounded rumors of presidential philandering in the past.
Matt Drudge, whose drudgereport.com is the most frequently consulted Internet source of tips and gossip in every newsroom in town, yesterday shamed a few media celebrities who disdain sexual gossip about Democrats, but who can't wait to dish the dirt about Republicans. He cites the likes of Stone Phillips, the pretty face-in-waiting at NBC; Jonathan Alter of Newsweek; and Joe Conason of the New York Observer as guilty of applying partisan standards to presidential hanky-panky.
Mr. Alter, in a fit of high-mindedness that soon passed, once wrote that presidential candidates must be asked "tough, often distasteful but nonetheless important kinds of questions." That was when the candidate was a Republican. Last week, Mr. Alter denounced as "sleazy" even asking Mr. Kerry such "important kinds of questions." Mr. Conason, one of the most devoted of the Clinton acolytes, sneers that Matt Drudge is a mere cog in "the GOP smear machine," but he wrote in 1992 that the first of a thousand reasons not to vote for George H.W. Bush was that "he cheats on his wife." (He never apologized when the rumor was discredited.)
Anyone who was awake during the Clinton years has to wonder what all the commotion is about. Even if true, there wouldn't be enough juice in the "Kerry intern scandal" to stain anybody's frock. Bubba would jog through scandals of this caliber twice before breakfast. If the Widow Heinz is looking for wifely consolation, she shouldn't call Hillary.
Wesley Pruden is editor in chief of The Times.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/pruden.htm

First Kerry Wife isnot going to do anything. Hillary knew her hushand cheap on her and help him hide it.

[MrFun]

Maybe the Republicans can dig up rumors that Kerry has eaten babies for lunch.

[Ned]

She'll get her cuts in. Women are women. So, like Hillary, have ambition as well.

BTW, Clinton is now maneurvering Hillary for VP.

[Tripledoc]

Ned, in the interest of bypartisanship why don't you tell us about Cheneys daughter, and how her private life would portray the Bush administrations policy on certain issues as hypocritical.