Kerry in Sex scandal!!!! - Page 8

The Mad Monk · February 12, 2004, 18:01

Torircelli is special.

Swissy · February 12, 2004, 18:02

Kerry has been winning because the Dem voters have been been told there are no skeletons in his closet and he has the best chance to beat Bush. All exit polling on the Dem side has been saying electibility is issue #1. If this tarnishes his electibility he is done. To bad nobody looked beyond the war hero image.

GePap · February 12, 2004, 18:02

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Torircelli is special.

Awww, but so are you TMM

Kuciwalker · February 12, 2004, 18:08

I want to be in a sex scandal (minus the whole scandal bit)

The Mad Monk · February 12, 2004, 18:08

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Originally posted by GePap
You left Dean becuase of the "scream" issue, which has been shown to be a non-issue.

Ned implies there might be a sex scandal of some sort (but we know absolutely nothing about what the charges are) and you are ready to say if it turns out to be true, you will withdraw your support for Kerry...

What won;t make you change yoour mind about a candidate? You are OK with them getting haircuts perhaps?

If that "Democratic Underground" website is anything to go by, a lot of people are prepared to dump him on a rumor.

It's quite telling, isn't it?

The Mad Monk · February 12, 2004, 18:09

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I want to be in a sex scandal (minus the whole scandal bit)

So you want to be in a sex?

GePap · February 12, 2004, 18:12

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk

If that "Democratic Underground" website is anything to go by, a lot of people are prepared to dump him on a rumor.

It's quite telling, isn't it?

whom? Dean or Kerry?

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So you want to be in a sex?

You do know "special" is a euphamism, right?

The Emperor Fabulous · February 12, 2004, 18:19

(CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry will pick up the endorsement of former Democratic rival Wesley Clark, a Democratic source told CNN, as Sen. John Edwards and former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean tried to convince Wisconsin voters the Democratic presidential race isn't over.

Clark was scheduled to appear with Kerry on Friday in Wisconsin, the scene of the next major Democratic contest. In a CNN interview Thursday, Clark would not confirm that he would endorse Kerry, but said, " I'm looking forward to seeing John tomorrow."

A Democratic source called Clark's expected endorsement a "significant step forward" for the Kerry campaign, predicting it would draw Southern and military votes to Kerry, who has won 12 of the first 14 Democratic contests.

For a second day, Kerry rested and worked the phones Thursday at home in Washington.

His campaign faced questions about a photograph that surfaced on the Internet and TV and in newspapers showing him at a 1970 protest against the Vietnam War with Jane Fonda. (Full story)

Many Vietnam veterans have never forgiven the actress, who was nicknamed "Hanoi Jane," for traveling to North Vietnam while Americans were fighting in that conflict.

The Kerry campaign said the senator and Fonda were acquaintances and that the photograph was taken two years before her trip, which Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, did not support.

In another development Wednesday, the Democratic field got smaller when Clark dropped out after third-place showings Tuesday in primaries in Tennessee and Virginia. Kerry won both primaries, with Edwards coming in second.

Clark, 59, a political novice who jumped into the race five months ago, pledged to do whatever he can to help the Democratic nominee beat President Bush in the fall.

With Clark's departure, five candidates are left in a field that once numbered 10 -- Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio and the Rev. Al Sharpton, a New York civil rights activist.

Dean, Edwards woo voters
Edwards and Dean are stumping in Wisconsin, which holds a key primary Tuesday, trying to convince voters not to jump on the burgeoning Kerry bandwagon.

Despite Kerry's consecutive state victories, the Edwards campaign also tried to raise questions about whether the front-runner was the strongest Democratic candidate.

"Electability is not about winning the Democratic primaries," said Edwards spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri, adding that it's about "being able to win over the types of voters needed in the general election, like conservative Democrats and independents."

Also Wednesday, Dean blasted Kerry over a Washington Post article that former U.S. Sen. Robert Torricelli, a Kerry supporter, helped bankroll a group that ran attack ads against the former governor in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. The ad questioned Dean's experience in foreign affairs and featured an image of Osama bin Laden.

Torricelli was forced to drop his 2002 re-election bid in New Jersey after the Senate Ethics Committee admonished him for receiving items from an ally convicted of violating federal campaign laws. A former Kerry spokesman, Robert Gibbs, was listed as one of the leaders of the group, called Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values.

"I'm sorry to see Sen. Kerry introduce those techniques to the Democratic Party," Dean said. "If we have to become like the Republicans to beat them, then I think the Democratic Party needs to change fundamentally."

Referring to a possible matchup of Kerry vs. Bush, Dean also said, "I'm just deeply disappointed that once again we may have to settle for the lesser of two evils."

But Kerry spokesman David Wade dismissed the allegation as "another Dean act of divisive desperation," insisting that Kerry's campaign was not behind the ads, didn't know about Torricelli's contributions to the group and has had no association with Gibbs since he left.

"These inaccurate and indefensible character attacks need to end," Wade said.

Kerry attracts Clark backers
After his victories Tuesday in Tennessee and Virginia, Kerry continued to pick up new support. He was endorsed by Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-New Mexico, and Rep. Tom Allen, D-Maine, along with the presidents of 18 unions that, as a group, had previously endorsed Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri. Gephardt dropped out of the race after his disappointing finish in the Iowa caucuses in January.

Also, a movement was under way among the 20 Democratic members of Congress who had endorsed Clark to switch their allegiance to Kerry.

Reps. Charles Rangel of New York and Marion Berry of Arkansas said they were getting behind Kerry and urging other Clark supporters to follow their lead.

"A majority of members who had endorsed Clark will at some point in the near future endorse Kerry," said Berry, one of Clark's earliest and staunchest supporters.

But while Clark's congressional support may be going to Kerry, Edwards said Wednesday that he hopes to attract the general's rank-and-file troops.

Up for grabs in Wisconsin are 72 delegates. To win the nomination, a candidate needs 2,161 delegates. (Delegate scorecard)

Kerry is leading with 516 delegates, while Dean has 182, Edwards 165, Clark 102, Sharpton 12 and Kucinich two. (Full story)

After Wisconsin, comes "Super Tuesday," when 11 states hold contests March 2.

Spiffor · February 12, 2004, 18:24

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Originally posted by SpencerH
You're French. Even if your not a card-carrying member you're a commie to us anyway

What's worse, I AM a card-carrying member, and I'm even a candidate for the Commie Party

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Of course you agree with him, it goes without saying.

Actually, I agree more with Kerry having illegitimate sex than with Che, but that's because of my Frenchness

The Mad Monk · February 12, 2004, 18:29

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Also Wednesday, Dean blasted Kerry over a Washington Post article that former U.S. Sen. Robert Torricelli, a Kerry supporter, helped bankroll a group that ran attack ads against the former governor in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. The ad questioned Dean's experience in foreign affairs and featured an image of Osama bin Laden.

Speak of the devil.

The Mad Monk · February 12, 2004, 18:31

I think having Torricelli active in one's camp may be a bigger grenade than any intern.

GePap · February 12, 2004, 18:50

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
I think having Torricelli active in one's camp may be a bigger grenade than any intern.

Finally you pick up one why I mentione dthat skuzzball ..they had this yesterday on the Lehrer newshours.

Dean has eevry right to be angry and to point out that Kerry coopting his message is a travesty.

CharlesBHoff · February 12, 2004, 18:55

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Originally posted by MrFun

Not anything will make me switch my support for a candidate.

Geez, I'm going to have trouble keeping track of all the false statements made about me in this thread.

Well it the candidate does something clearly criminal in nature like murder or rape I wouldnot support anyone for office.

SpencerH · February 12, 2004, 18:56

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Originally posted by Spiffor

What's worse, I AM a card-carrying member, and I'm even a candidate for the Commie Party

I forgive you. If I can forgive my commie government-member brother in law, I can forgive you.

MrFun · February 12, 2004, 18:59

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Lest you forgot.

You threw the first stone, so I threw a couple back.

Ben Kenobi · February 12, 2004, 19:03

Let's see.

We have a front-runner who people only like because he is electable, who is now being accused of philandering and mudslinging.

Your number two, is Howard Dean, who is considered unreliable, and untrustworthy, who will not be able to carry the south, or the black vote.

Your number three has no idea what the DOMA stands for, and has won one primary, in his home state, and who just lost two primaries badly in which he was supposed to win.

Your number four, has now dropped out.

Kucinich keeps looking better and better.

Spiffor · February 12, 2004, 19:05

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Originally posted by SpencerH
I forgive you. If I can forgive my commie government-member brother in law, I can forgive you.

You have a commie government-member? In the US?

JohnT · February 12, 2004, 19:07

It's not illegal to be a Communist in the US, Spiffor. It's just impossible to get elected as one.

GePap · February 12, 2004, 19:08

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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Let's see.

Your number two, is Howard Dean, who is considered unreliable, and untrustworthy, who will not be able to carry the south, or the black vote.

1- considered unreliable by whom? The press that took him down for some unknown reason? Please, bunch of sh1t.

2. On the south- who cares? He will carry the NE, which has MORE electoral votes than the south (excluding Texas and Florida) a,d as long as he were to win all the same states Gore won plus Ohio, or plus Florida, he would win.

3. Dean actually is the one democratic candidate who has been the most outspoken about race, the most honest about race and the second his message got out to black audiences, he most certainly would carry the black vote not becuase he is simply a dem, but becuase for once a candidate out there would be honest about race in America. that might make him even less popular with many whites in the south (though he was correct about the confederate flag comment) but it shows he is the most honest dem. when it comes to that issue, certainly more honest than race baiter Sharpton.

Spiffor · February 12, 2004, 19:13

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Originally posted by JohnT
It's not illegal to be a Communist in the US, Spiffor. It's just impossible to get elected as one.

That's what I thought, so you understand I'm amazed when an American tells me such a thing

DanS · February 12, 2004, 19:16

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Your number three has no idea what the DOMA stands for, and has won one primary, in his home state, and who just lost two primaries badly in which he was supposed to win.

Well, he's more like #2 rather than #3. But he does appear to lack voter appeal at this time.

CharlesBHoff · February 12, 2004, 19:19

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Originally posted by Ming
Integrity... Politician... Who's kidding who here.

Let's get real... just more of the typical mud slinging. Before the electon is over, as usual, there will be mulitple mud slides. People that are making a big deal out of this should look real hard at their own candidates...

Integrety - Politicians...

Ming in the Village I grew up in the local GOP never make personal attack in election against their opp. One year when I was 8 year old the National GOP sent some of the poliicital opp to the village to wage the most dirler camp ever. There where 4 Dem in the Villager out 8000 with the huge majeroity being GOP. One Dem decide to run for major of the village. The local GOP didnot like the National GOP dirtly camp men. They call the man than homo and womanize at the same time the last straw for the local GOP was when they ran than adv
saying he was dead and his wife have than heartattack because of it all the local GOP voted demoncrate that year to sent than messager to the National Party Leader.

Ned · February 12, 2004, 19:35

Charles, your stories are simply amazing!

CharlesBHoff · February 12, 2004, 19:35

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Originally posted by The diplomat

Not one of these are true!

They are all true read the NY Time. They just fired a reporter who make up new story afew month ago. The court give report covering live evant more leeway in libel suit against then as it can be very hard to get accurate info while covering live evants. Plus the Time put it option in the edorite page and co-ed pages.

Ben Kenobi · February 12, 2004, 19:42

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On the south- who cares? He will carry the NE, which has MORE electoral votes than the south (excluding Texas and Florida) a,d as long as he were to win all the same states Gore won plus Ohio, or plus Florida, he would win.

Black voters comprise a significant proportion of the Democrat's base, and become a significant reason to support Edwards over Dean. Every year, we hear how their turnout is critical to the victory of the Democrats, and every year, they fail to show up.

Look at the exit polls. Dean does much worse than Edwards.

Tennessee

Total/ Clark / Dean / Edwards / Kerry / Sharpton

Black 23 26 2 15 46 9

Dean got a piddling 2%.

Virginia:

Black 33 7 4 16 64 8

Dean got a pathetic 4%.

Missouri:

Black 15 3 5 16 4 53 0 1 16 2

Again, 3% of black voters voted for Dean

Oklahoma:

Nonwhite male 8 24 4 29 28 0 9 3
Nonwhite female 10 31 3 24 30 1 4 6

3 % of black voters for Dean

South Carolina:

Nonwhite male 19 6 4 32 36 0 1 20
Nonwhite female 30 7 5 41 32 0 1 14

Dean scored his highest number. 5%.

Dean is done.

CharlesBHoff · February 12, 2004, 20:08

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Originally posted by Ned
Charles, your stories are simply amazing!

This true as dirtly camp can backfire on the person doing them. The local GOP leadership saw no reason to end they ban on dirtly election as they would have won by the fact that 99.99 % of the voter where GOP member. The Country GOP didnot want any Dem to ever hold office in the country no matter how small. They call in the National Attack force to take over the running of the election.

chequita guevara · February 12, 2004, 21:14

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Originally posted by MrFun
You threw the first stone, so I threw a couple back.

You said you handn't insulted me when I "slandered" you. You need to watch that revisionist memory of yours.

Capt Dizle · February 12, 2004, 22:39

Che, that kind of behavior is what gives left wing crazies their well deserved reputation as kooks.

joncha · February 12, 2004, 22:49

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Originally posted by jimmytrick
Che, that kind of behavior is what gives left wing crazies their well deserved reputation as kooks.

Yeah, I've never seen similar "behaviour" from right wing crazies on these boards.

jon.

Imran Siddiqui · February 12, 2004, 23:06

I thought Clinton and Arnold showed that sex scandels really don't matter anymore.

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Lets see" MrFun basically states his support for his presidential candidate is very weak and elastic and anything will make him switch- Che calls him a spineless weakling for that

Yep... and I'll back che here... Mr Fun is a spineless weakling. I mean it's like withdrawing your support for Clinton after you realized he was blown by Lewinsky! Dumb!