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Prime Function (turn player for CC and PUT)
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Second Function (back up for Prime Function)
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External Function should be split in Military Affairs and Foreign Affairs
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Internal Affairs should be split in separate functions for CC and PUT
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3D Editor function as a new function (information minister)
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Intelligence Department as new Function (CIA - Consciousness Intelligence Agency)
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Xenobanana Function
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February 14, 2004, 15:37
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Government organisation poll (attempt three)
So it is now time to poll about new government organisation. Blah, blah - vote!
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February 14, 2004, 15:44
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Just a remainder - vote only for the things you are for - if you are against it then do not vote for it.
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February 14, 2004, 15:51
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After Lauri requested so - here it comes.
This poll is about CPU reorganisation following discussion thread started by Impaler. You vote for any new positions you think that need to be open or you just confirm the need for old ones (like for Prime or Second Function).
After this is cleared we will have elections with nominees for voted functions. EVERYTHING CLEAR? Alright. Vote!
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February 14, 2004, 15:55
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February 15, 2004, 03:49
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Grr, Obstructor. I proposed CIA for Conscieusness Internal Affairs, let Intelligence be ID of IF (Intelligence Department or Function)
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February 15, 2004, 07:16
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Grr, Obstructor. I proposed CIA for Conscieusness Internal Affairs, let Intelligence be ID of IF (Intelligence Department or Function)
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Nevermind the name then we willd decide later.  If I change the poll it will reset votes.
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February 15, 2004, 13:40
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Com'on ppl, vote...
Only 7 so far, there are more ppl who didn't want to expelled by Tass
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February 15, 2004, 18:51
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All but CIA voted.
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February 17, 2004, 12:40
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* bump *
It's almost of the page...
I'm starting to have second doubts about having so many Functions in function. If I look to the number of voters, it seems reasonable to assume we're going to have difficulties filling every slot.
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February 17, 2004, 16:01
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Doublepost.
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February 17, 2004, 16:02
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Well it seems there is only six or seven really active people here, seeing that only third of our so called members have voted.
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February 17, 2004, 16:53
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So it seems. Wasn't Tass supposed to 'release' those non supporting members? I'll check that thread...
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February 20, 2004, 17:19
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*bump*
Vote people!
If this continues, we will have to either throw out inactive members or give increased voting powers for active ones.
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February 20, 2004, 17:44
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I voted a while ago...
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February 20, 2004, 18:14
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A good Cyborg you are. If only others are like you...
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February 20, 2004, 20:58
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banana. definately.
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February 20, 2004, 21:36
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I thought that was the other name for the Prime Function.... 
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February 21, 2004, 01:06
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correct. I, the little-known Emperor Prime Function, hired the 'normal' or 'Xenobanana' Prime Function to act as a figurehead and serve my command. That way if I screw up, the 'Xenobanana' Prime Function will take the blame and i'll get off scott-free. It's been a little-known plot of mine, dating all the way back to planetfall. Hm, i suppose i'll have to terminate you now. oh well 
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February 21, 2004, 07:07
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Come ppl, one more vote for Method (banana) and there is one government slot less to fill. 
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February 21, 2004, 09:19
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Looks like the new government will consist of all but the CIA. Nice 
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February 21, 2004, 12:58
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Looks like it. I guess it's about time a 'nomination' thread pops up? That's Mani's job, I suppose?
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February 21, 2004, 13:18
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Well actually DeathByTheSword's job, but I guess I could do it too.
Though should we consider the split of IAF into a PUT and CC division accepted? In the past the tradition was that 2/3 was necessary to accept a constitutional change like this one, but only 60% is for the split.
But I'll do whatever you want: the government positions aren't really a big issue for me. I'm more concerned about finding active enough members to fill the positions.
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February 21, 2004, 13:27
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Though should we consider the split of IAF into a PUT and CC division accepted? In the past the tradition was that 2/3 was necessary to accept a constitutional change like this one, but only 60% is for the split.
But I'll do whatever you want: the government positions aren't really a big issue for me. I'm more concerned about finding active enough members to fill the positions.
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My thoughts exactly on both accounts. Not enough votes to split the internal affairs of PUT and CC, and probably troubles finding enough dedicated members.
When is Impaler due to return? In time to take IAF again?
Btw, you told me we don't have a constitution, so what's the nonsense about 2/3 majority? 
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February 21, 2004, 13:47
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This is really starting to bea trouble. With so much members (27 now?), and only 11 voters we have some serious issues. How can we poll if such things will occur all the time? We certainly have to decide when the polls have enough voters to consider them "constitutional" and what mayority is needed. Perhaps the more voters participate the less majority needed in a poll.
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February 21, 2004, 14:01
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Maniac didn't mean 2/3 majority from all members, only from the ones voting.
This poll is in action one week now, and it's about time to let ppl choose if they want to have a government slot or not, IMO.
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February 21, 2004, 14:27
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I knew that, but we need to decide what level of participated members is needed to consider a poll validated.
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February 21, 2004, 21:01
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If people arn't voting then their not active.
Theirfor all votes by definition contain all active member, as long as their was a resonable period of time for the vote I would consider any vote valid.
And as for my returning to active duty, this is going to happen eventualy when I have my new system built. Hopefully around the begining of March.
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February 22, 2004, 11:24
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Btw, you told me we don't have a constitution, so what's the nonsense about 2/3 majority?
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This is indeed a major paradox that keeps many cyborgs puzzled... It is a constitution that states what percentage of the active voters need to agree to accept a constitution. As a consequence before a constitution is accepted, we cannot know what percentage of people should agree to accept that constitution. So it isn't possible to accept any constitution in the first place. Many cyborg lawyers, judges and philosophers have spent their entire careers trying to find a way to solve this logic loop, but until now everyone has been unsuccesful. 
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February 22, 2004, 14:00
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I just noticed that someone voted for no new functions, nor for the old functions? Who is this Cyborg who thinks we do not need any kind of government?
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February 22, 2004, 14:34
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Probably Tassadar.
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