Italy or Ottoman Empire?

Eivind IV · February 18, 2004, 10:18

I won't say anything more exept that I've begun on a new project from the early 20th century. And I need to know what the people's opinion is

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My question to you is: Who would you rather see playable; The Italians or the Ottomans?

Cast your vote please!

Arthedain · February 18, 2004, 10:54

Stop making us curious like this..

edit: spelling

our_man · February 18, 2004, 10:57

This scenario: it wouldn't happen to be Italy's invasion of Ottoman-held Libya before WW1?

curtsibling · February 18, 2004, 11:03

I wonder who picked option 3?

Eivind IV · February 18, 2004, 11:05

@Curt: Yes, I do as well *cough*

@our_manWell, as I said above I won't say anything. But it's in the era of the Russo-Japanses war, the Balcan war and even the Italy-Ottoman war

Valuk · February 18, 2004, 12:20

Yeah, do the Balcan wars, or perhaps you could begin inthe early 19th century and then unfold the events until 1923, when Turkey became what it is today.

GoPostal · February 18, 2004, 13:18

Would be hard to script all the treaties

fairline · February 18, 2004, 13:38

I think probably the Ottomans: although they were well on the way to becoming the 'Sick man of Europe' they were still a more significant power than Italy at the turn of the century.

What are the other civs BTW? I'm guessing Britain, France, Russia, Germany, USA and Japan?

Eivind IV · February 18, 2004, 13:52

I won't say anything, only that you're a good guesser, Fairline!

GePap · February 18, 2004, 15:05

Certainly the Ottomans: they controlled a much more significant slice of the world, and think of it if the empire had lasted longer? It would have been a far more important occurance to the world than anything Italy really did.

Justinianum · February 18, 2004, 16:10

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Originally posted by Kobra
My question to you is: Who would you rather see playable; The Italians or the Ottomans?

Ehm, of course I have to vote for my homeland

Boco · February 18, 2004, 19:40

Gotta go with the Sublime Porte.

Btw, I have a bunch of links and book info, though mainly from 1914 onwards.

The Ottoman Conscription System gives a good description of Ottoman army units from 1844-1913 (they overhauled it in late 1913 after the Balkan debacle).

Storia d' Italia has some good timelines for the Turco-Italian war, but might require some help from Justinianum

Need units? They're not mine to give, but the artist would probably part with them for a virtual pint.

Eivind IV · February 18, 2004, 19:48

Great links! Thanks!

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Need units?

I'm all ears...!

Elok · February 18, 2004, 21:26

Bah. I use ottomans for footstools.

Seriously though, I guess I'd say the Ottomans too. Pretty big chunk of land to be representing as part of Shah Neutral Leader's Empire, or leave empty, or (god forbid) represent with barbarians. Dunno what the alternative would be though.

Arthedain · February 19, 2004, 12:13

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Originally posted by fairline
What are the other civs BTW? I'm guessing Britain, France, Russia, Germany, USA and Japan?

That or Britain, France, Russia, Germany, Austria and Spain

Eivind IV · February 19, 2004, 12:29

No, Austria-Hungary and Germany will be one...whooops! And I who wouldn't say anything??!

Gagliaudo · February 19, 2004, 17:17

As Justinianum,

I vote for my homeland, too.

Evev if Libia will reveal itself... a SABLE BOX !!!
(Italian didn't discover oil ... in those days...)

Buon lavoro!!!

academia · February 20, 2004, 00:18

well, IMHO Eivind is the coolest guy in the world.

POTUS · February 20, 2004, 00:27

Ottomans are more interesting, and larger.

Eivind IV · February 20, 2004, 08:05

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Originally posted by academia
well, IMHO Eivind is the coolest guy in the world.

Well said, amigo!

Arthedain · February 20, 2004, 09:37

Quote:

Originally posted by Kobra
No, Austria-Hungary and Germany will be one...whooops! And I who wouldn't say anything??!

Hopefully it's on a world-map then

Eivind IV · February 20, 2004, 11:32

Ermmm...silencium!

Wouldn't it be fun to carve up this sick man of Europe and leave it to the indepenents?

Man! How I wish civ2 had more civs.

Eivind IV · February 21, 2004, 20:10

Could anyone please help me do a map check; see if cities are placed correctly and spelled correctly. Ignore all the swamp land and the fact that the ottomans are not a civ.

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