anyone up for another Chiron Chronicles? - Page 5

Mart · April 7, 2004, 00:19

Good draft. So we need a map now with base placements?

Trithemius · April 7, 2004, 00:45

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Originally posted by Mellian
1 Cruiser, Foil, and etc. per Unit (will have to check the manual for the size of a Foil when i come back home...)

I'm inclined to assume that some of the components of the naval unit are larger (capital ships?) and some are smaller (support craft). This ties in well with the battalion/squadron/squadron/squadron breakdown.

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5-15 Probes in a Probe Team unit

Probes units are likely to be really varied. I'm inclined to assume that they include 'sales reps' from Morgan Industries (stirring up desire for the life of luxury in the elite and middle classes) and 'missionaries' or 'revolutionaries' from the Believers or Free Drones (stirring up unrest in the lower classes) as well as being the normal "covert ops" types.

Sovereign · April 7, 2004, 11:29

Makes sense about the Probe team, Trith.

However, Mellian said 1 - 5 foils per 1 foil Unit.

On another note, I still claim the Garland Crater for the University.

Mellian · April 7, 2004, 11:43

already have a draft map, but since there is more people that have joined, will have to restart the process.

before deciding where bases should be, would like to decide where areas of the map the factions will start from, as it will effect where to place bases.

I know University as called for the Garland Crater, Morganites at the Borehole Cluster area, Data Angels (me) on the same continent as the morganites and one of their neighbours, and the Gaians at that small continent/large island middle north of the middle continent (where garland is) and right continent (monsoon and borehole continent).

state where you would like to have your chosen factions to be, with possibly some suggestions as for where the untaken factions should be...especially if you would like to use them for any plot ideas you may have.

it was suggested that the Cult of Planet to be at the Ruins, where they established themselves after splitting off from the Gaians and using a monolith somehow to transport themselves to the Ruins.

I suggested that human crossfire factions to be located near the factions they obviously split off from... like the Cyborgs being neighbours to University on the same continent, Free Drones not to far from the Hive, and the Data Angels not to far from the Morganites.

Pirates not sure who they split off from, considering there is no indication anywhere i could find...so thought maybe they seperated from the Peacekeepers at some point, either because they were refugees sent on with some Foils when the Spartans was invading the Peacekeepers(and later retreated), or simply split off from the Peacekeepers when a group led by Captain Svensgaard an Unity Gun Foil found Unity's only Colony Pod Foil. they split off with a group of interested people when his request to establish a sea base was denied for some reason, but went off anyway with the Colony Pod Foil, Unity Gun Foil and a Transport Foil. They could be the first or second crossfire faction to split off. They eventually established themselves in Unity Sea or wherever after some travelling.

Also suggested maybe to have some natural rivals being on the same continent. like the Peacekeepers and Spartans, University and Believers, and etc... for story telling potential. Oh and they don't have to be always at wars...just that they bump heads a lot like in council or on other matters.

forgot to add in the story settings that all factions will be at peace...as in no vendettas currently happening.

-mellian

Mellian · April 7, 2004, 11:45

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Originally posted by Sovereign
Makes sense about the Probe team, Trith.

However, Mellian said 1 - 5 foils per 1 foil Unit.

On another note, I still claim the Garland Crater for the University.

and Foils could be considered the support ships.

-mellian

Sovereign · April 7, 2004, 12:30

Mellian, let me get this straight...

Monsoon Jungle Contient Occupiers:

Morgan
Hive
Data Angels
Gaians
Drones

Freshwater Sea Contient Occupiers:

Peacekeepers
Spartans
Cult
Pirates (If they establish land bases later on)

Garland Contient Occupiers:

University
Believers
Cyborgs

Small Islands Occupiers:

Gaians

Where would the Progenitors be located? I suggest three likely starting locations.

First location = extreme east of the Freshwater Contient, right on the peninsulas.

Second location = between Spartans and Cult in the northern area of Freshwater Contient

Third location = extreme south of the Monsoon Contient, on the penisulas far south of the Monsoon Jungle

Illuminatus · April 7, 2004, 14:13

I imagine Svensgard head of UN navy, who decided to split off and pursue his own interests, taking a cp and establishing a sea base.

Mellian · April 7, 2004, 14:30

i would to wait for the new authors that joined since i last made a draft of where they would like to have their chosen factions...like, is Franky, mart and Trith part of this now?

-mellian

Sovereign · April 7, 2004, 14:59

I think Mart has an interest. He said so a couple months ago.

Franky said he would be interested as a sub-author, not as a full fledged author. Refer to his post several months ago.

I dunno about Trith. He seems to add a lot of comments, views, perpesectives, etc. I haven't seen him state that he would like to become an author.

At least thats what I can remember.

Illuminatus · April 7, 2004, 15:05

Trith usually just comments ALL threads related to SMAC.

Mellian · April 7, 2004, 15:40

here is the latest draft of starting locations of the factions.

while Franky may not be a full author for the Hive, he still gets to chose where the Hive can start at

which faction is mart is going to be authouring?

-mellian

Illuminatus · April 7, 2004, 15:45

Isn`t donut continent too spacious in contrast with rift continent?

Sovereign · April 7, 2004, 16:09

Everyone wants the Monsoon Jungle, or the chance to conquer it.

What are these dark green and llight tan colors? The dark green next to Freshwater Sea, and the tan cut in half at the top left and top right edges of the map.

Are these Progenitors? If so, which Progenitor = which color?

Illuminatus · April 7, 2004, 16:16

Darker = caretaker, lighter=usurper. Don`t you have SMAX?

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Sovereign · April 7, 2004, 16:22

Heh. Sorry. Been a while since I played Progenitors in SMACX. I tend to play with them off since they don't do anything. No super-alien invasions like in Spartan Chronicles, sadly.

Illuminatus · April 7, 2004, 16:30

Why did they decide to kill off Caretakers from the begining anyway?

Mellian · April 7, 2004, 17:28

well, could also maybe have the Peacekeepers and Spartans around Freshwater Sea, and the Caretakers on pholus ridge between the spartans and the cult...and then move the Usurpers at the Dunes area....

be easier if Franky and mart state where the faction they will write and sorta write for to start at...

-mellian

Mellian · April 7, 2004, 17:33

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Originally posted by Sovereign
Heh. Sorry. Been a while since I played Progenitors in SMACX. I tend to play with them off since they don't do anything. No super-alien invasions like in Spartan Chronicles, sadly.

well, we could have at least an annoying major invasion by the Usurpers

not sure what their reproduction rate is...but considering their militaristic nature and the constant warfare with the caretakers (in space somewhere, their the scout ships crashed or whatever on Chiron...)...they may be use to rapidly rebuilt their infrastructure and have cloning vats and etc to keep up manpower wise...

-mellian

Sovereign · April 7, 2004, 17:36

Mellian, I have an idea for that Progenitor thing.

Perhaps around MY 2300 or 2350, we could have Invasion 1, then maybe another invasion around 2500 or later.

Keeps things interesting.

I think the Progenitors use mass cloning. I remember reading it somewhere either in here AC fiction, or in SMAC-X game. Their only weakness is infrastructure. They need time to adapt their new technologies to their infrastructure, but once they do adapt, they're a powerhouse.

Trithemius · April 7, 2004, 21:33

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Originally posted by Sovereign
I dunno about Trith. He seems to add a lot of comments, views, perpesectives, etc. I haven't seen him state that he would like to become an author.

I didn't know that more were needed?

I might observe this one though, just so I can find my feet, so to speak.

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Originally posted by obstructor
Trith usually just comments ALL threads related to SMAC.

Not all, just the ones I have an opinion about...which is most of them I guess...

Is that some kind of problem? I have to increase my post-count somehow so I don't feel so inadequate around the other ACDG goons.

Illuminatus · April 8, 2004, 05:00

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Originally posted by Trithemius

Not all, just the ones I have an opinion about...which is most of them I guess...

Is that some kind of problem? I have to increase my post-count somehow so I don't feel so inadequate around the other ACDG goons.

You want a custom avatar? You are doing well. Maybe I should report this to a mod

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Mart · April 8, 2004, 05:20

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Originally posted by Mellian
which faction is mart is going to be authouring?

Peacekeepers

GeoModder · April 8, 2004, 05:50

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Originally posted by obstructor
You want a custom avatar? You are doing well. Maybe I should report this to a mod

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You should speak, Obstructor.

Illuminatus · April 8, 2004, 05:57

Well now I have enogh for two, and my ppd keeps rising even being constructive. Yours is almost 19

. What should you say ?

Frankychan · April 8, 2004, 06:04

*emerges from the bowels of the Hive*

Hmmm, well. If we are going by canon, it is generally assumed that Domai and the Free Drones are an offshoot faction of the Hive. Although not specifically stated anywhere AFAIK, everyone seems to agree that Domai comes from the Hive.

With this said, the Hive and Drones shouldn't be too far away from each other. Also, I think that the Hive is located near the Uranium Flats (canon). However, I cannot 100% prove this is the case. If we are going on canon, then these points should be taken into consideration.

Looking at how everything is shaping up, I think that maybe I should switch to being the author of the Believers. Quite frankly, the Hive makes a much better adversarial faction than the Believers. That, and since I would only be a "supplemental" author, I think that a full-time author would probably do a better job with them than I could.

So, if it is ok with everyone else and no one else objects.....I would like to join the Believer faction instead.

*Wanders off in the fungus toward the Believer holy land*

Illuminatus · April 8, 2004, 06:08

Is this related to our PBEM Franky? You took Believers there. Drones can also be from Morgan, or both.

Frankychan · April 8, 2004, 06:14

Kind of.

I wanna get into the "Believer Mode". Hopefully something in the game will inspire me.

...I hate the Believers, but its a love-hate relationship.

Illuminatus · April 8, 2004, 06:22

I now just realised that I both have same faction in this and PBEM.

GeoModder · April 8, 2004, 08:34

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Originally posted by obstructor
Well now I have enogh for two, and my ppd keeps rising even being constructive. Yours is almost 19

. What should you say ?

That I'm a busy but constructive poster MOTT, I remember 20+ unworthies to Tass in the CC private forum...

Mellian · April 8, 2004, 09:10

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Originally posted by Sovereign
Mellian, I have an idea for that Progenitor thing.

Perhaps around MY 2300 or 2350, we could have Invasion 1, then maybe another invasion around 2500 or later.

umm, maybe we should wait how fast we progress through the story years before planning when invasions happen

can still have conflicts with the Proginators, especially when humans still try to figure out who the heck they are and to communicate with them somehow...which will be another starting...no faction is able to communicate with them yet, and the how to should be a Planetary Council effort me thinks

-mellian