### Vote for Civ III ! Don't let it die! - Page 3

vmxa1 · March 12, 2004, 12:42

Looks like Gear and GTA are not all that far apart and have less than CivIII.

Nubclear · March 13, 2004, 05:11

Simcity 2000 is so much deeper than Civ 3

alva · March 13, 2004, 09:47

Sure it is Tass, sure it is....

PLATO · March 13, 2004, 13:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar

Simcity 2000 is so much deeper than Civ 3

Okay Tass.

Whatever...

vmxa1 · March 13, 2004, 13:49

CivIII 4400 vs 3091, looks like a lock.

Konquest02 · March 13, 2004, 17:01

We made it, but next round is gonna be really tough...

asleepathewheel · March 13, 2004, 17:28

great

Alex · March 14, 2004, 00:56

i'm afraid that now civ3 is going to lose.

vmxa1 · March 14, 2004, 03:06

With over 4000 votes, it has a good shot.

LzPrst · March 14, 2004, 18:33

whats it up against?

vmxa1 · March 14, 2004, 21:55

IIRC it is Metal Gear.

binyo66 · March 14, 2004, 22:04

Final result, we still can beat GTA, with 300.

vmxa1 · March 15, 2004, 03:02

Ok I got that wrong, it is GTA. They had 4191 in their run. CivIII got 4400 in its run.

Should be close. March 23rd.

mrboo123 · March 15, 2004, 08:37

Come on civ3! Whop GTA3 a$$! civ3 would make an easy target for Mario, but can still beat Tetris

Daz · March 15, 2004, 09:03

Quote:

Simcity 2000 is so much deeper than Civ 3

It didnt even get a second chance.....

Metal Solid Gear did...

binyo66 · March 16, 2004, 00:32

Let's use tactics for the next round. This is the current situation :

1. We could beat GTA by at least 200 (assuming there is no traitor), so we could go to the next round on March 30 fighting against Arcade Champion
2. The current status Tetris could beat Super Mario. Here is the tactic:
In addition for voting CivIII on March 30, we should vote for Super Mario On March 23, because it would be an easier enemy to fight. It's legal, but not fair

Daz · March 16, 2004, 02:55

oooo, I love the sound of it....

notyoueither · March 16, 2004, 03:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Dissident
It's the same thread. I don't see why you have to call me stupid.

I don't see any contradiction. The smilie should be an indication of what I meant.

I'll stop posting in this thread if that will make you happy. I'll even stop posting in civ3-general. I didn't realize there was such bigotry here.

Do you want to see a rare thing? OK, here it is.

I apologise for misinterpreting your first post. I was not the only one, but I was the one to say something caustic about it and the next one. There you have it. No offence meant, and I apologise for finding some.

Arnelos · March 16, 2004, 04:08

Dagnabit... my votes no longer seem to have any effect on the tally.

Anyone else have that problem?

notyoueither · March 16, 2004, 04:22

The poll is closed?

Daz · March 16, 2004, 06:08

Did you vote more than once?

Son of David · March 17, 2004, 13:23

How on earth can anyone say Civ3 is better than GTA 3? I somehow suspect that the 10+ million units of GTA 3 sold (and 11.5 million for Vice City) reveal a different general opinion. I must respectfully go along with the majority-at-large and vote against Civ on this matter.

vmxa1 · March 17, 2004, 13:30

I am not sure what sales has to do with it. Really I do not see why they are in against each other. They should stay with in the same genre.

Lots of GTA players will not be play any TBS games. As to better, I fail to see how any one could play a game like GTA more than once. It is like potty jokes, not funny the second time around.

Son of David · March 17, 2004, 13:33

vmxa1,

I've played both, and while Civ has lasting appeal greater than GTA, the first time you play a GTA game right until you get 100% is just the most amazing gaming experience ever.

asleepathewheel · March 17, 2004, 13:35

wrgj · March 17, 2004, 21:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Son of David
vmxa1,

I've played both, and while Civ has lasting appeal greater than GTA, the first time you play a GTA game right until you get 100% is just the most amazing gaming experience ever.

vmxa1's made a lot of very pertinent points, and this is one. First, liberty city is a nonsence genre and we should not be competing against car racing (I assume that's what it is). It appears that they pasted two half-competitions together several times... If there was a full strategy game "region" in the poll, then it would have been Civ2 vs. Civ3 in the final!

Second, sales mean nothing when comparing games on different platforms. In particular, on games machines, you had to buy the games, which have a much shorter game-life as they need to sell more a few months later, and they are much more mainstream. Many, let's say, part-time/amateur gamers -- those that buy a game and play it for a few hours at Christmas -- would be using these platforms. As for sales, for example, my little brother bought/got as presents all the early machines, 3 PS's, 2 PS2's, (yes multiple machines for different region's games!), a N64, GameCube, Xbox, etc, etc... he got many, many games, but I never saw him playing the same one a month later.

PC games, especially ones with a long life are slowly disceminated amoung the population - Civ was not an instant success, but I know few gamers that never played it. And in those days everyone copied games (well, I was at school and had no money!) We are talking about a game that has been developing since, and has kept people addicted the entire time!

As for the best game of all time, I don't think there would be many people on this site who would trade a short thrill of well-rendered graphics and the excitment of doing some new gameplay for the first time with years of the continuing pleasure of playing the challenging and interesting game that is Civilization.

Aqualung71 · March 18, 2004, 00:07

Civ3 has a decent chance of taking down the Arcade champion (presuming it beats GTA), but the writing's on the wall - we'll get splattered by Doom in the semi-finals. Still, for a TBS game to get that far in this competition will speak volumes!

vmxa1 · March 18, 2004, 02:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Son of David
vmxa1,

I've played both, and while Civ has lasting appeal greater than GTA, the first time you play a GTA game right until you get 100% is just the most amazing gaming experience ever.

I do not doubt it is fun. Many things are interesting at first. It just does not strike me as something I would want to play over and over.

But anyway, my point is TBS should not go up against RTS/FPS/RPG and other genre. It will not win very often.

Many more players in the other games, than TBS.

wrgj · March 18, 2004, 02:16

The one advantage we have is that we are committed fans who take personal pride in voting for Civ, whereas most mass-marketed games will not have everyone following this poll to vote! We have been steadily improving our vote more than the other games. If we get to vote-off against something as popular as Doom was, imagine our pride... and their shock!

Daz · March 19, 2004, 04:35

my mom cooks better than yours....