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If God is supreme, how does the devil rival him?
I mean, seriously, why doesn't God just stomp Satan's ass? or maybe God is Satan because jesus commited suicide (technically)
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February 27, 2004, 01:45
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Hes lazy. Thats why he has us do it.
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February 27, 2004, 01:45
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Or why did God allow Lucifier's rebellion to occur if he's omniscient?
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February 27, 2004, 01:47
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It's all part of the plan. Yah, you're posting here was part of the plan too. What's the plan? God knows...
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February 27, 2004, 01:47
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because the story works better with a villain.
Don't you read other fiction? 
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February 27, 2004, 01:48
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MRBAGGINS YOU HEATHEN TERRORIST!! GOD IS TRUE THE BIBLE IS TRUTH YER GONNA BURN
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February 27, 2004, 01:48
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'Cause Satan is so ****ing cool! 
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February 27, 2004, 01:50
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wouldn't it be koo if miroslav satan was on the devils?
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February 27, 2004, 01:51
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Why doesn't god strike us down when we start doing a bunch of evil actions?
It's a nessecary component of free will to be able to do evil things.
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February 27, 2004, 01:51
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seriously... how good a story would it be if it was all goodness and light and no villain?
Satan as per hellfire, demons, imps and damnation was invented in the Middle Ages, to act as a fear motivator for the church's benefit.
The story has gone through a number of rewrites... like any script, for example.
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Sava: No such luck though... no such luck. 
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Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; February 27, 2004 at 02:01.
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February 27, 2004, 01:53
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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Why doesn't god strike us down when we start doing a bunch of evil actions?
It's a nessecary component of free will to be able to do evil things.
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but then isn't the whole good vs evil battle really a blowout? I mean, satan can't win...
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February 27, 2004, 01:54
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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Why doesn't god strike us down when we start doing a bunch of evil actions?
It's a nessecary component of free will to be able to do evil things.
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And this free will he gave to Adam and Eve?
Then what of those two cities....
Free will my.....
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February 27, 2004, 01:55
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Why doesn't god strike us down when we start doing a bunch of evil actions?
It's a nessecary component of free will to be able to do evil things.
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He didn't have any problem negating the "free will" going on in Sodom and Gommorah... or various other places from time to time.
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February 27, 2004, 01:55
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Originally posted by Sava
but then isn't the whole good vs evil battle really a blowout? I mean, satan can't win...
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Well, in terms of overturning the created order and destroying God, he can't win, no. He can however seperate himself from God and his created order and go into the spiritual darkness of Hell, as we have the same choice.
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February 27, 2004, 01:57
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Originally posted by Aeson
He didn't have any problem negating the "free will" going on in Sodom and Gommorah... or various other places from time to time.
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Don't take the Old Testament literally.
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February 27, 2004, 01:57
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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Well, in terms of overturning the created order and destroying God, he can't win, no. He can however seperate himself from God and his created order and go into the spiritual darkness of Hell, as we have the same choice.
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but if god is omniscient, he knew there would be evil... so he knowingly created evil... doesn't that make god evil?
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February 27, 2004, 01:59
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but if god is omniscient, he knew there would be evil... so he knowingly created evil... doesn't that make god evil?
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No. Foreknowledge of an event does not equal foreordination of that event.
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February 27, 2004, 02:00
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Don't take the Old Testament literally.
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Shi, would you mind speaking before a couple of small audiences of conservative Christians? 
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February 27, 2004, 02:00
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but if god is omniscient, he knew there would be evil... so he knowingly created evil... doesn't that make god evil?
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Good one.
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February 27, 2004, 02:00
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No.
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February 27, 2004, 02:01
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I've liked the New Jersey Devils since they wore the green uniforms. Does that make me a Satanist?
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February 27, 2004, 02:01
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No. Foreknowledge of an event does not equal foreordination of that event.
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uhmmm but if you knowingly do something that you know will be evil, aren't you responsible?
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February 27, 2004, 02:01
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Shi, would you mind speaking before a couple of small audiences of conservative Christians?
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Sure, I argue with my more conservative Catholic brethren all the time.
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February 27, 2004, 02:02
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I've liked the New Jersey Devils since they wore the green uniforms. Does that make me a Satanist?
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yes because those uniforms are ****ing ugly
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February 27, 2004, 02:02
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YOU SEXIST MALE PIGS! GOD IS NOT NECESSARILY A HE!!!!!!!!!! IF I DON'T SEE YOU REFFERING TO GOD A S/HE SOON I'M GONNA HAVE THE GUERILLA GOIRLS ON YOUR ASS FASTER THAN YOU CAN SAY FEMINAZI!
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but then isn't the whole good vs evil battle really a blowout? I mean, satan can't win...
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Maybe he can .
"I'd rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven". Satan, the first libertarian
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February 27, 2004, 02:04
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I don't take the old testament literally. It says there is a God, which I certainly don't take literally.
If you believe in God based on a book, why not believe in the other things based on the same book?
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February 27, 2004, 02:04
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If God were female the world would be a neater place.
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KILL THE MEN AND ESTABLISH WORLD PEACE!!11!!!
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