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Old February 28, 2004, 23:19   #1
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Pravda Issue 22: Democracy Is Wrong!
SALUTES AND SALUTATIONS, COMRADES!


WELCOME TO PRAVDA! TRUTH FROM THE ABSOLUTE SOURCE OF IT! WE ALL ARE EQUAL, BUT DON'T FORGET THAT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS!


WHERE THE ELITE MEET TO GREET THE SWEET AND SHARE THE TREATS
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IN THIS ISSUE:
- Democracy causes hunger!
- Survivors of PEACE/ CyCon war speak!
- "The Unfree Man"
- From the Cloudbase Academy
- Drama!
- Mystery!


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FAMINE IN DEMOCRATIC CITY!
by Comrade Vander
An unidentified man left this covert report at the doors of PRAVDA today. The report shows a PUT base, clearly on the verge of loosing citizens. This is clearly due to the lack of proper management on the part of the democratic government. In their quest to "cut costs," these democratics have failed to let this city get enough food to fulfill basic human needs.
Fear not, readers, this would never happen in the Hive. Our great CCC makes sure of every man's need is fulfilled to its fullest.

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garrison: none
support: 1 trance scout skirmisher *disciplined (-)(++)*, 1 former, 2 crawlers (+2 mins, +4 en)
population: 1 TAL, 2 WOR, 1 DOC, 1 TEC
8-10 nut, 10-1 min, 20-1 en
growth HUNGER (4 turns)
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REFUGEES OF PEACE/ CYCON WAR SPEAK OUT!
by Comrade HongHu

A boat filled with PEACE members were picked up by the Hive Coast Guards at an undisclosed location. They reportedly have been refugees from [base name censored] which was newly conquered by the CPU forces. The writer has had the opportunity to briefly interview a Hive merchant who was on the same boat with the PEACE refugees, who claimed that he had not been eating nor sleeping for the last 72 hours and seemed to be utterly exhausted and stressed. Below is a transcript of the interview.

Where are you from? Why were you in this boat?

I’m from [censored]. I have set up my business of trading between the Hive and PEACE ever since we made contact many years ago. I had to abandon my little shop when the CPU bombs fell like hails from the sky right in front of me.

Did the bombing surprise people?

I think 90 percent were shocked. We are all aware that the CC-PEACE war has been going on and I’ve seen millions of people who fled from the occupied bases. But just prior to the bombing, people were still saying, “Look, I'm sure there is going to be bombing, but don't worry. They have very precise munitions and will just bomb the military targets.” I feel very lucky that I was able to get on this boat. I know many people who didn’t make it to the boat would have already died during the last 72 hours if they were not already dead in the bombing.

Do you know the extent of casualties in your own village?

A friend and neighbor of mine died in the bombing. There are about another 50 or 60 people from the village dead and in another nearby town about 15 people died in a TV station. In all, about 12 to 15 people died in the bombing and the fighting that I knew myself, or were friends of a friend.

I heard some appalling stories. Like after they buried someone, they found their hand two days later, or a wedding ring. I just froze when they told me. I've seen worse things on TV, but when someone tells you exactly what happens, when they describe the details, it is very graphic. An average person will just want to shut it out. I was saddened and overpowered. I tried, possibly unconsciously, to exclude things. I tried not to notice everything in a way.

You mentioned that you’ve seen some refugees fled from already occupied bases. How were things like over there?

I have not been in the occupied bases myself. But from what I heard, things are not good. Patients are driven out of hospitals to make room for CyCon’s wounded in the fight. Factories are shut down, equipment stripped off to sent to the CPU. People are afraid to go out because they could be arrested and tortured anytime. Many people do not have a place to live, because their houses are destroyed in the war. Some do not even have food. Young boys and girls are sent to “assimilation center”, nobody really knows what have happened to them … I’m not feeling well, I need some water.

(The interview was interrupted because the person being interview had suddenly fainted and was carried into an ambulance.)

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SPECIAL PHILOSOPHY SECTION: "THE UNFRREE MAN"
by Comrade Vander


THE UNFREE MAN

There was a period in man’s history where the idea of “freedom for all men” was a new thought. The freedom for all men was rooted in the axiom that man is inherently free; for he has the freedom to make his own decisions. He has free will. This free will found itself at the center of a the newly reborn governmental style of Democracy. That Democracy soon flooded Earth and was the “ideal” method of ruling a nation. Democracy even beat out communism during the first Cold War on Earth, leaving the United States of America the undisputed rulers of Earth into the 21st century. Now, I could go into the various reasons why communism failed, but the point I will be making is that it was not democracy that won that war: For democracy is a farce. Democracy is a fallacy because I say that man is not free. He does not have an inherent free will. What he has called “free will” is nothing more than a contrived, empty pair of words used to placate the masses.
Man is not free because of two fundamental parts of man. The first of which is his emotion. Emotion has the nasty effect of clouding what would otherwise be a good decision. It happens all the time, as well. When man “goes against his better judgment,” he is letting his emotions dictate what to do. When man loves, or is angry, or wants revenge, he is letting his emotions control him. What vestiges of “free will” were in him before his was angered are gone once man falls into his emotions. Yet this is not the only reason man is free.
I further propose that knowledge is the second chain of what has been called “free will.” As long as we are capable of understanding the world around us, we take in information and process it into knowledge. This is fine, for man does need to learn, but it comes into conflict when one has to use his “free will.” For when he desires to decide on something, he takes into account his knowledge. He changes his decision from it. This may not sound bad, until you look at the source of knowledge.
In a modern “democracy,” the people are informed about their government through the media. It is impossible to reach very many people with the simple methods that the ancient Greeks did. Since the mid- 20th century, democracy has needed to use media to inform its people of the happenings in the world. It has become a necessary device of government in the mean time, and Chiron is no exception. Yet it is a fundamentally flawed system. The media cannot tell the people everything. There is much too much happening in the world for all of it to be broadcasted. There- in is the root of knowledge’s evil: It can very easily be used against its viewers. The case in point is early 21st century USA.
In that time and place, the USA was the dominant force on Earth. Yet is was not a democracy. The ruling groups used the media to placate the masses. They told their people about the latest fashions when they should have been told of the armies amassing on their borders. And when it did bubble over, the media used its people’s emotions to rally full boar into the beginning of the end.
So one may be saying that knowledge and emotions are not chains of free will. They are free will in themselves. Man takes his knowledge and his emotion and arrives to a decision; thus free will. But this statement is a flawed one. It is fine to call knowledge and emotion free will; it does not change them from being flawed. First of all, any knowledge one has is not yours. Very rarely does one get an idea out of the blue, so to speak. Random appearances of thought do not happen. So any knowledge that you have is inherently from an outside source. Further, where the knowledge came from was also inherently biased to one side or another. Be it for capitalism or socialism, for the weak or the strong, or whatever. The ultimate point is that it’s biased, and therefore, very likely flawed in one way or another. Emotion is not an unbiased thing either. As I’ve said before, emotions are the antithesis to logical thought. They deter one from a sane and rational path to that one of rash actions and ill thought gains.
This is why democracy is not a proper government. How can one rule a nation on the premise that the public makes their decision of their own free will, when what they decide is nothing more than what they have been fed my the media? Because man is not free, democracy is wrong and false.

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ON SITE REPORT FROM COMRADE T_RAS AT THE CLOUDBASE ACADEMY:
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I have the honor to announce, in the name of our almighty chairman Voltaire and the Honorable Council of the Hive, that The Cloudbase Academy is successfully finished! In this advance facility our pilots and air-equipment engineers will learn to improve our aviation technologies and skills. Hiverian pilots will be introduced to advance flying techniques; which will help them get the best out of their aircraft, both by knowing how to take planes technological capabilities to the limit and by taking their mental and physical capabilities to the limits. Surely, our pilots will fare much better than the enemy, even with similar machines.
Also, as mentioned, our air engineers will be there. They will be introduced to the latest technologies of aviation, thus helping them develop improved models of air-crafts which will outpace our enemies technological capabilities.
The final result of the foundation of Cloudbase Academy will be a giant jump to our air-fleet taking it one step beyond and above all others on planet.

Power and pride to our air-forces and honor to the hive and our mighty chairman!
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NOW THESE HEADLINES:

- The Hive CC pact is ended! An undisclosed source claimed the government had obtained information regarding the CC's future plan of invading the Hive land. The official has denied this statement. "The ending of the Hive CC pact is an unfortunate event resulting a miscommunicated command by a former driver." An Hive official stated in a press conference.

- Recent popularity poll finds the Chairman's popularity at 2.398 x 10^34% power. However, a strange "Tassadar" has risen out of nowhere to 2.389 x 10^33%.

- Comrade Carnegie's new book, How to Win Drones and Influence Empaths is at the top of the "Hive's Most Distributed Books" list; beating out Comrade Palahniuk's Sit- Down- and- Take- It Club

- We are the best faction on the Planet

- Rumors have that Chairman Voltaire and Former Deputy Chairman Jamski have disappeared from the face of Hive after violently fighting in a super secret meeting regarding CC - PUT - PEACE - Drones. The Hive government is currently operating by a former driver.

- Recent xenodoughnut crops have failed, causing widespread panic, as well as the loss of 55 inches from Comrade Octavian's waistline.

- CyCon/ PUT recruitment at an all time high. Hive could not care less.

- Breaking headline fails to have story behind it.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE CYCON- PEACE WAR?
Note: the views expressed here do not represent those of PRAVDA.

One of our loyal reporters of PRAVDA visited the central distribution center of our great capital to find out what the average Hiverian thinks of the CyCon/ PEACE war:

Jilanian, 21: "I don't really care. The battle doesn't happen on our land, so it's not that important."

Karl, 34: "Oh it's important. What has happened to all of those citizens of PEACE that were not able to experience the glory that is the Hive?"

Andi, 54: "I'm just hoping that the CyCon doesn't set their eyes on our land. I don't want any of my grandchildren dying because of an over- aggressive neighbor"

Maximilian, 40: "It's just like the new book, How to Win Drones and Influence Empaths says,'You'll make more friends with honey than with vinegar. The CyCon needs to use honey, not vinegar "

Vander, 19: "As long as they show me some more of the 7 of 9 character, I'm happy with the CyCon!"



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PREVIEW OF THE LATEST HIVERIAN PLAY, "A DAY IN THE FORMER OPERATOR'S LIFE
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A day in the former operator's life –
part I

Ring…ring…ring…
What the hell is that noise in my dream?? Hoo F%&#, it is working morning again (if you can call 4:00AM morning)….ring…ring….humm yeah I think I should stop this F%&# clock before it makes me crazy!!
BOOOM! Crash…
Ok, I think it was a little hard this time, I’ll have to buy a new one.
Now let me see if I have all my parts here after the fungus vodka party last night…well, I seem to have three arms…I’m sure that’s one too much, but who knows? Wait! It might not be mine! Let’s open one of my eyes and check….yep, there seems to be some one in my bed... There’s definitely some one in my bed!!
-Do you always wake up at four in the morning after a party?
Ho my god! It speaks!! I’m sure I just heard it speaking!! Let’s see…who is she? She’s the red hair girl from the party…well…at least she has red hair and she seems to have been with me at the party.
-Good morning Tany.-Well…who knows, I think I speak too , and it even sounded like a complete sentence.-We have to go for some fungus today…-hou my head! I don’t remember speaking to be such a painful task.-You can keep on sleeping here for today, I’ll be back in a few days, so just lock the place after you leave, I have a spare key.
-You know if you leave a key to lock I’ll have to come back….
Ho yeah, they all think the same way…well, I guess I could have her once more can’t I?
-I guess you’ll have to…- I swear I tried to smile, I really did.
Now let’s try to move the upper part of my buddy a way from the pillow…ok, let’s try again… wow, I don’t remember being a way from the pillow to be so high! Don’t worry, I think I’ll get used to it in just a few seconds.
-Ok, so I’m going back to sleep, don’t make too much noise.-like I could….
Now…I think this tow long parts below my bottom should be taking me somewhere, I just don’t remember where, or how to get on top of them.
Maybe if I think real hard something will happen….yep, I’ll fall asleep again.
Someone told me former operators are not supposed to think much, that’s good. I think that was the reason I took this job, ha that and of course the fact the commissar said so…
Well…It seems I’m on my feet (yes I DO remember how they are called).
Now just a little walk to the shower and from there I’m done.
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defenetly a good issue.
I'm sure i can recognize some star writer here....
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The editor had inadvertantly omitted an editorial commentary: "It is a former OPERATOR! Not a former Diver!!!"
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As official Informations Function I dismiss all news in this Issue to be bad lies and poor propaganda. It was Hive, for example, who fed entire colony pod to mindworms for pure pleasure.

Unoffcially: Is this all you can come with?
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Re: Pravda Issue 22: Democracy Is Wrong!
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An unidentified man left this covert report at the doors of PRAVDA today. The report shows a PUT base, clearly on the verge of loosing citizens. This is clearly due to the lack of proper management on the part of the democratic government.
This is strange, reports sended by the independent and unassimilated Chancelor of PUT indicates that Cairns has a growing population and noteworthy production. It is certainly not CPU policy to let bases starve since our procreation rates are still not high enough. Perhaps after the war a 3D-reporter should be dispatched to PUT territory to investigate these accusations. Obstructor, how does IF thinks about this plan?

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A boat filled with PEACE members were picked up by the Hive Coast Guards at an undisclosed location.
I suggest this boat is quickly assimilated by Hive (change of flag), as that our forces in the area not shoot down a PEACE vessel with Hive 'Rescuers' on board.

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I’m from [censored]. I have set up my business of trading between the Hive and PEACE ever since we made contact many years ago. I had to abandon my little shop when the CPU bombs fell like hails from the sky right in front of me.
Since when does Hive allows his residents to collect wealth in foreign factions?
And are those bombing runs observed by independent sources? ATM CPU denies to have bombing capable aircraft in the area.

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I’ve seen millions of people who fled from the occupied bases.
Our estimations on PEACE population levels prior to the war were 0,5 million organics in the whole faction. How can there be then millions of refugees? Not to mention that our garrisons simply do not allow Pirates outside baseborders, except as assimilated CPU-member.

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Patients are driven out of hospitals to make room for CyCon’s wounded in the fight. Factories are shut down, equipment stripped off to sent to the CPU.
PEACE technological level on health care, production and equipment are not compatible with CPU products and maintenance of damaged wardrones. There is simply no use to pillage on the few warehouses that PEACE kept stocked.

As a sidenote, CPU wishes to show it's benevolence in restoring the interviewed 'hiverian refugee' memories and functions to a better functioning level.

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- Recent xenodoughnut crops have failed, causing widespread panic, as well as the loss of 55 inches from Comrade Octavian's waistline.
Does this indicate starvation in Hive territory, or does the good comrade lives only on xenodoughnuts?


All for all: for this Pravda, I enjoyed reading it.
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/me points out the 'Wiseman's Column' and 'The Philosophical Corner' of 3D Issue 7.0.
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There is no need to be disturbed by Hive lies, Geo. We have already dismissed this stupidity.

/me hands an needlejet ticket to Geo

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Anyone who thinks that is clearly delusional! I suggest this person gets one of those famous Hive nervestaple treatments!
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Anyone who thinks that is clearly delusional! I suggest this person gets one of those famous Hive nervestaple treatments!

Ummm... Jamski?
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Btw, something else. The maximum population PEACE ever had was 330000 citizens (33 pops).

Anyway, I'm glad to see that the largest part of Pravda deals with CPU affairs. It's a clear sign that the Hive too admits CPU is the place to be!
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Why are we bothering so much about Hive lies? Let`s discuss the philosophical consequences of FM.

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/me points out the view -and post amount of 3D Issue 7.0 compared to Pravda...

Oops, +1 for Pravda now.
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Looks like a lot of people in the planet reads Pravda. Remember, if it is in Pravda, it is the truth.
when i was reading "Pravda" back in 1980's my feeling was that sci-fi is actually cool kind of literature
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* GeoModder points out the view -and post amount of 3D Issue 7.0 compared to Pravda...

Oops, +1 for Pravda now.

Hmm. Not including this post it is now 30:20 for 3D.
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Good thing we have two newspapers in the planet that people like to read isn't it? Though you shouldn't forget that what is in Pravda is the truth.
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... for the Hive.

But then again, I guess the same can be said from 3D

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3D is the worldwide truth. PRAVDA is Hive truth.
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... for the Hive.

But then again, I guess the same can be said from 3D

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You know I'm now starting to like you 3D guys. Democracy may be wrong, but it is surely fun.
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You know I'm now starting to like you 3D guys. Democracy may be wrong, but it is surely fun.
Yes, it is fun. Wrong - I will not turn this into democracy vs police state thread. Any chance of Hive allowing access to 3D? I am interested in news expansion.
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Well in the Hive we don't tell people what to do. They rule themselves remember? They have access to everything they want to access. If they choose Pravda because they know that if it is Pravda then it is the truth, we really can't stop them from thinking so.
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But what if they want to access 3D?

Will you respond me with "Hive doesnt think that 3D is truth. PRAVDA is truth." ?
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Oh they have already accessed 3D. And they know that Pravda is the truth.
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