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Old March 5, 2004, 13:52   #121
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Mrs. Spiffor sounds like a mind-blowing person. Did you engage in any contracts with the Devil in order to meet this girl?
Not even that. I just decide to stop sticking my finger in the arse, and to start looking for girls. I actually had several opportunities by this time. I asked Mrs. Spiffor out (first time I actually asked out in my life) first, and I got very lucky

Actually, it was difficult at first week, because she fairst said "no", out of respect for her ex (it was an excuse for her to hesitate). After one week of non-harassing but clear insistance, she finally said yes as her heart told her for some time now

We were complete strangers in September, we were acquaintances in November - December, and we made out in January. Not too quick, n ot too slow. Just that we were attracted to each other, and still are
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Savor the feeling, skywalker. You'll miss it, maybe even regret it, when the two of you part ways, but in the end it's all worth it, I think.

Then again, I'm on the same drug you are. It doesn't end when you graduate high school, thank God, and it never loses its potency.
Actually after getting your heart broken one time too often and leaving in your dust couple of shattered hearts, you'll become a bitter cynic who's more realistic about love

Just kidding. Oh yeah it's a headly feeling. However the problem I tend to make stupid decisions and sometimes get myself into a situation I don't want. And after that feeling wear off, you start to notice how annoying the other person is so you're like uh oh what did I get myself into?

So I've learned to tell myself whoa wait, you pup. Take time to know her as a person before making a move that I could regret later on.
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I'm asking her to go ice skating with me and a friend of mine and his gf. Wish me luck.

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Whee! You actually asked her! I'm proud of you dude. Now I get to relive my 10th grade through you

Hope you will get yourself a
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I expect a or a at best
It was both. She said yes, but then (paraphrased) "You've been really sweet to me lately (I've been walking with her through the hall for the past two weeks), but I don't really want to get into a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship with anyone right now." I had the previously mentioned 12th-grader translate, and she said it means "she likes me, just doesn't want to be "going out" right now. That clarifies it, slightly

I still happy though
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Old March 5, 2004, 15:35   #125
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Does this just mean she's open for a wild sexual relationship without even commitment?
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and your reply young kenobi should be: hey who's saying anything about a relationship? just come with me ice skating and have a fun time!

of course you should say it in better english than mine but the idea is keep going young grasshoper, don't take no for an answer. persuade her to come with you and your friends icesakting by lightening up the mood. the more time you are together and do things together the more she'll be getting used to you and the more closer you will become.


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of course you should say it in better english than mine but the idea is keep going young grasshoper, don't take no for an answer. persuade her to come with you and your friends icesakting by lightening up the mood. the more time you are together and do things together the more she'll be getting used to you and the more closer you will become.
It all depends on how large your ego is. Personally, I can't stand hanging with a girl who probably knows of my intentions, but will let me wait for the sake of her proudness.
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let's you wait is what you may think. maybe she waits for you to actually charm her and not just say hey little girlie i'm interested in you please?
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If I was like Boris, I would still be a losser by now
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yeah well there's the fine balance of not actually pushing it too far lest the little bird flies away. but it's always trial and errour and not two birds are the same.

so if even after you lighten up the mood skywalker she still won't go out with you, back away and live to fight another day


edit: and as other said you kicked ass just for asking her out btw you're on the right track kid!

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and your reply young kenobi should be: hey who's saying anything about a relationship? just come with me ice skating and have a fun time!
Exactly, paiktis! Hey skywalker, if you don't listen to this man, there's a one-room apartment in horrific western Copenhagen right here waiting for you.
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It all depends on how large your ego is. Personally, I can't stand hanging with a girl who probably knows of my intentions, but will let me wait for the sake of her proudness.
What does pride have to do with it? We're sophomores - most people don't hook up until junior or senior year. If she doesn't feel ready to go beyond "a bit more than friends" then I'm not going to try and pressure her.

That's not to say I'm not going to keep doing what I've been doing. We just aren't going to dive headfirst into a strong relationship.
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Skywalker, you're doing better than I did in 10th grade . Keeping it light and with two couples is a great plan. Try to keep the non-dates that way for a start, until you find out whether the "relationship" bit is her being tentative, or her definitely not wanting any relationships right now.

Don't feel hurt if it's the latter, consider it experience. And if it's the former, well, then, go for it. Congrats, and good luck.
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What does pride have to do with it? We're sophomores - most people don't hook up until junior or senior year. If she doesn't feel ready to go beyond "a bit more than friends" then I'm not going to try and pressure her.

That's not to say I'm not going to keep doing what I've been doing. We just aren't going to dive headfirst into a strong relationship.
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"You've been really sweet to me lately (I've been walking with her through the hall for the past two weeks), but I don't really want to get into a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship with anyone right now." I had the previously mentioned 12th-grader translate, and she said it means "she likes me, just doesn't want to be "going out" right now. That clarifies it, slightly
That sounds like nothing but a Kiss of Death to me, but of course the age of the people we're talking about throws things out of wack...
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I figured, if a woman like you enough, she would not play hard to get. If she does, she's not the sort of women I want to have a long term relation with, anyway.
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What does pride have to do with it? We're sophomores - most people don't hook up until junior or senior year. If she doesn't feel ready to go beyond "a bit more than friends" then I'm not going to try and pressure her.

That's not to say I'm not going to keep doing what I've been doing. We just aren't going to dive headfirst into a strong relationship.
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I always take "no" for a "no."

I figured, if a woman like you enough, she would not play hard to get. If she does, she's not the sort of women I want to have a long term relation with, anyway.
Wishy-washy PC stuff! Skywalker, I'm not going to advise anybody to stop being nice and caring, but you've got to remember that our physical attraction is based on a lot more than who is being nice to us. We're talking different scales here, and personally, I've always found my female friends relatively un-attractive despite them being fine companions (a great advantage, by the way).

If you guys have to continue having unsexy relations to each other for now, I guess that's the way it's got to be, but at the very least you should do some flirting or some other measures to excite her and maintain some kind of pseudo-romantic relationship. In romantic affairs, there's nothing wrong with the old saying that you should just be yourself, but remember that being yourself doesn't exclude the possibility of a highly strategic battle plan to accomplish the task.
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That sounds like nothing but a Kiss of Death to me, but of course the age of the people we're talking about throws things out of wack...
I think she's a little young to be wanting an intellectual whore.
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Had I followed his advice, I would still be alone
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We were complete strangers in September, we were acquaintances in November - December, and we made out in January. Not too quick, n ot too slow. Just that we were attracted to each other, and still are
That does seem quite slow. Verres and I was the other way. It didn't feel quick at all, but she told me she liked me the first night we met. By the end of the week we were going out on dates. 3 weeks after we'd met she went on holiday for 2 weeks, and I've never felt so lonely By that time I already felt so 'into' the relationship that it was a huge part of my life. By the time she got back I'd booked tickets for us to go away to a music festival together for the weekend. It didn't feel weird at all going away together after knowing each other just over a month, it already felt serious and comitted. Even now, each day seems like such a long time, that having a day without seeing her makes me miss her At the time I remember thinking "doesn't this seem a little fast to feel like this" which was quickly answered with a "no" We spent a lot of time together, and it didn't feel that quick. I remember after about 2 weeks of going out we went to Oxford for the day, since I was expecting to go there for Uni, and she was looking at applying, and when we walked into one college I talked my way in, and when asked, she said she was "his girlfriend", and it just made me smile so much. I knew we were together by then, but it didn't really sink in until she said that

Anyways, the point I was trying to make ( ) was that however fast or slow things go, when it's right it doesn't seem fast or slow. For a usual relationship, what happened with Verres and I would seem fast, and Spiffor and Mrs. Spiffor would seem slow, but neither felt it too fast or slow, because they were 'right'

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Does this just mean she's open for a wild sexual relationship without even commitment?
Go Sky

Seriously though, I think it sounds pretty healthy. She seems to like you, which if you're anything like me, will make you feel happy, even if she doesn't want a relationship.

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I know what you mean. I kinda agree. I would feel some sort of resentment for a girl who left me hanging just because she felt like it, but it depends on the reason. If she wasn't sure she wanted to start a relationship, or any reason really, I'd be happy to wait. But if it's just because she wants to keep me hanging when she knows what she's going to say, then the only reason seems to be at my expense, which isn't a good way to start a relationship, IMHO. If someone is doing something that they know adversely affects me, when they don't have a reason to, then that isn't the best way to start a relationship.

I also half agree with UR. It depends on why she's playing hard to get. Many people I've seen are 'told' that it's the best way to get someone interested, or that it's the 'done thing', or put pressure on to. Some may feel not ready for a relationship. Some may just be scared of getting hurt, and so not wanting to jump in. There are many reasons where playing hard to get isn't just playing hard to get, it has a reason behind it. However when it is just that, playing with someones feelings, then I agree it isn't a good way to start a relationship. I know many girls do it, just for kicks, I'm just very lucky that my wonderful Louisey (I will get killed for 'cutening' her name ) was honest with me about her feelings It's not like I would have got the hints anytime soon anyway...
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Nothing wrong with being alone. Love is nice, even great. I don't see why people who don't have a SO are referred to as "losers." That just does not make sense to me.
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Some may feel not ready for a relationship. Some may just be scared of getting hurt, and so not wanting to jump in. There are many reasons where playing hard to get isn't just playing hard to get, it has a reason behind it.
Yes, you are right. If a woman has a good reason of not being in a relationship for now instead of just playing hard to get, that's great. I will give her as much time as she needs to get ready.

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There is also a cultural thing. What would be merely 'galanterie' in France is considered 'harassment' by the feminazis in Quebec.
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