View Poll Results: Who is DA best debater of 'em all?
MtG 13 15.85%
Spiffor 14 17.07%
GePap 4 4.88%
Fez/Giancarlo 20 24.39%
Boris Godunov 9 10.98%
Imran Siddiqui 6 7.32%
Sikander 5 6.10%
Zylka's banana 11 13.41%
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Old March 10, 2004, 18:51   #61
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Yeah, is it too late to put a time limit on the poll? I forgot to do it.
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That's ok, you can just announce it, so people will know the deadline.
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Old March 10, 2004, 19:34   #63
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*ahem*

Adverse and averse are two different words. Averse means, roughly, "tending to avoid." Adverse means, roughly, "detrimental." I, personally, am Ned-averse, and I think that Ned has an adverse effect on debate.

With age, I'm learning to be careful about calling anyone a dumb*ss.
Well, it is certainly true that I have an adverse effect on the hard left who somehow think that everyone agrees with their pink colored view of the world history.
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Ha Ha! Fez is winning. You should have voted for me. I could have stopped Fez, but now 'Poly is going to turn into a Franco- ista dictatorship. It serves you all right.
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Old March 10, 2004, 21:04   #66
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Just because Fez is a Nazi doesn't mean he likes Franco.

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Old March 10, 2004, 21:07   #67
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they are taking it very seriously. Tell me, how can u argue against Fez's logic? besides, youre just jealous.
Boris is such an idiot.
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Just because Fez is a Nazi doesn't mean he likes Franco.

No, but he likes him anyway.
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Maybe a little effort from those who have not voted yet would spare us the shame of handing the award to Fez?
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And I'm happy to know that Zylka's banana is considered more intelligent tham Imran.
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Just because Fez is a Nazi doesn't mean he likes Franco.

Well I'm not the one with a statue of Lenin in my room.
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Depends on badly spammed the thread is
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Well I'm not the one with a statue of Lenin in my room.
Hitler is much better looking, I agree.
But remember: Stalin is even better looking than Hitler!

(UR, you can close this thread now)
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Old March 11, 2004, 01:29   #74
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Hitler is much better looking, I agree.
But remember: Stalin is even better looking than Hitler!

(UR, you can close this thread now)
I hate Hitler, you illogical person.

It looks like I win by a landslide.

If you don't vote for me, I will deal with you in due course. That is totally democratic. You vote for me, cool.. if you don't, you taste some salt water.
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More interesting than than Zylka's banana good showing or Fez's domination, is the tie between Spiffor and MtG. Let's wait another day to see who can put 'best debater' in his sig.
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Wow, I can't believe I was nominated! I voted for Spiffor, mainly because he is the most likely person among the nominees to make me change my mind. He does this by seeming to be open to most points of view, which gives me confidence that he hasn't simply arrived at his position due to his doctrine.

I agree with MtG too much to properly evaluate his style, and when I disagree with him I normally don't care all that much about the issue anyway. But he is a powerful arguer.

Boris is second most likely to get me to change my mind, and like Spiffor mostly because he manages to be reasonable most of the time so I tend to take him seriously when he's being serious.

GePap is usually serious and he makes serious arguments based on data most of the time. But like me he tends to argue from form rather than conviction at times, and that reduces his score a little.

Imran relies too much on the disingenuous argument and on wearing his opponents down for my taste, though I like him most of the time and do think he deserves his spot in the limelight. Unlike...

Fez. What more is there to say?
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Imran relies too much on the disingenuous argument and on wearing his opponents down for my taste, though I like him most of the time and do think he deserves his spot in the limelight.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Except for the part that he desserves his spot.

funny thing, so far he got less votes in the poll than he got nominations.
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Oncle Boris, you may notice that HE got nominated and you didn't
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Just a question... if the banana wins, then there is no award?
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I think the following people have been underestimated:

Agathon: if he can bring a debate to a conceptual level, he will win it, almost certainly.
He got three nominations too many, I wouldn't call that underestimating him.
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When Fez wins he will convince himself that he was sincerely voted the best debater on the board.
I see what you mean by underestimating Agathon, Oncle Boris.

Where would we be without his astute observations?
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He got three nominations too many, I wouldn't call that underestimating him.
3 and an honourable mention actually. You're just sore.
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Any slim rationale to insult my bro is worth taking the risk.
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It says a lot about the level of debate here, and about the other nominees
Fez winning this poll is a clear sign that the Finns have already begun thier plan for world domination.
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3 and an honourable mention actually. You're just sore.
I wish I got an honourable mention.
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Yah! I win the unpopularity contest!

East that Fez's Banana!
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I think Fez got so many votes because of the hanging chad syndrome.
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I think Fez got so many votes because of the hanging chad syndrome.
I wisht you'd stop blamin us locul folks. We ain't harmed a hair on yur boyfrien's head!
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