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Don't give me this religious nonsense.
I have the right to have my beliefs without being intimidated by some urban myth that you fundamentalists are spreading around. I am sure Pat Robertson would agree with you.
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Wouldn't you agree that all have a right to their beliefs? To not be "intimidated" then all you have to do is look for a different subject to post on. Aren't you doing the same thing you are accusing others of?
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For one thing, the Mayans calender ended because it was inadequate and furthermore, the religion under Mayan society was a polytheistic one. So you are using material from a polytheistic religion to prove your case? Very weak strawman argument.
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Um, I said the Bible Code predicts it, silly.
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For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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March 10, 2004, 22:21
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Oh and another problem with the article.. the light generating these images happened perhaps millions of years ago because they are light years away. Ever think of that one, Mr Nice Guy? They probably don't exist as we see them anymore and have changed since light from those regions of space have a lot of space to travel.
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March 10, 2004, 22:22
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His judgement cometh.... and that right soon!!!
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March 10, 2004, 22:22
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Since the world is flat and square according to the inerrent bible, it is impossible for this so-called cross to exist at the center of this so-called galaxy.
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March 10, 2004, 22:23
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See.. I knew without thinking that Giancarlo would reveal himself. 
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Oh Agathon! 
ROFLMAO!!!
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March 10, 2004, 22:24
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See.. I knew without thinking that Giancarlo would reveal himself.
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 Thanks for that stupid photo. My brother could do a better job with photoshop in five minutes than you could do in six hours.
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March 10, 2004, 22:24
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I think he looks pretty cool as the Lord of Hosts.
That'll teach him for beating me in the best debater contest. 
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March 10, 2004, 22:25
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Originally posted by Vanguard
Since the world is flat and square according to the inerrent bible, it is impossible for this so-called cross to exist at the center of this so-called galaxy.
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I am confused? Where does the Bible say the world is flat? I've read it through and don't remember that part.
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March 10, 2004, 22:25
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I did what? I better check out that thread... lol.
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March 10, 2004, 22:25
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Thanks for that stupid photo. My brother could do a better job with photoshop in five minutes than you could do in six hours.
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That's probably true. But you do look cool in that robe.
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March 10, 2004, 22:25
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Oh and another problem with the article.. the light generating these images happened perhaps millions of years ago because they are light years away. Ever think of that one, Mr Nice Guy? They probably don't exist as we see them anymore and have changed since light from those regions of space have a lot of space to travel.
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Okay Giancarlo, I'm just as non-religious as you are, but this is easy to refute. God did it. It doesn't matter how it was done. God did it. He wanted it to look like that so that it would be seen now, and so it was. Omnipotence doesn't require an explanation.
On the other hand, there are probably a good many other "signs" in the heavens that have to do with non-Christian symbols, so there's really no reason to believe that any of them are true.
Oh wait, probably? What about, say, all the constellations ever seen?
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March 10, 2004, 22:26
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Oh and another problem with the article.. the light generating these images happened perhaps millions of years ago because they are light years away. Ever think of that one, Mr Nice Guy? They probably don't exist as we see them anymore and have changed since light from those regions of space have a lot of space to travel.
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Don't try and twist things around, Fez. You're just trolling you know. 
It's the fact that we can actually see it that matters, not when it occured. Oh, and uh, you think the Almighty cannot circumvent the laws of physics--the One that invented the laws of physics for that matter? Think again. GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD!!!
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"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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March 10, 2004, 22:27
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Have you heard that they've found Noah's Ark?
It turns out Noah was Steve Jobs' previous life.
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March 10, 2004, 22:28
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GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD!!!
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The greatest understatement of all time 
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Originally posted by Lorizael
Okay Giancarlo, I'm just as non-religious as you are, but this is easy to refute. God did it. It doesn't matter how it was done. God did it.
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I think I just been refuted. *sarcasm* Not.
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On the other hand, there are probably a good many other "signs" in the heavens that have to do with non-Christian symbols, so there's really no reason to believe that any of them are true.
Oh wait, probably? What about, say, all the constellations ever seen?
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Yuppers.
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It's the fact that we can actually see it that matters, not when it occured. Oh, and uh, you think the Almighty cannot circumvent the laws of physics--the One that invented the laws of physics for that matter? Think again. GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD!!!
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Circular argumentation is not very good. You are wrong about a fact: It takes the light of these nebulas, stars and other thingamajigs in space millions of years to travel (depending on how many light years they are away). So technically I just debunked your argument.
Also prove god. 
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March 10, 2004, 22:31
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The Christian Proof of God:
God exists.
Therefore, God exists.
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You're not getting it, Giancarlo. The point is that God could have created these things millions of years ago so that we would see them today.
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Mr Nice Guy:
Circular argumentation is not very good. You are wrong about a fact: It takes the light of these nebulas, stars and other thingamajigs in space millions of years to travel (depending on how many light years they are away). So technically I just debunked your argument.
Also prove god.
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No need to answer this one, troll.
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"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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"GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD!!!"
LIKE, TOTALLY, DUDE!!!
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You're not getting it, Giancarlo. The point is that God could have created these things millions of years ago so that we would see them today.
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Tough considering you can't prove god. Don't try these strawman arguments: god is there because he just is. The point is it is all beliefs and that is all it is. There is not one shred of evidence for a christian god, therefore I am not going to be duped into believeing a B.S story such as the one "Mr. Nice Guy" posted.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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I am confused? Where does the Bible say the world is flat? I've read it through and don't remember that part.
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Matthew 4:8
"Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world,"
There are also numerous uses of the phrase "Four Corners of the Earth" and "Ends of the Earth"
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Ps. 103:12
"As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us."
And the fact that the Sun sets, then "hurries back to its rising point"
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Originally posted by Giancarlo
Tough considering you can't prove god. Don't try these strawman arguments: god is there because he just is. The point is it is all beliefs and that is all it is. There is not one shred of evidence for a christian god, therefore I am not going to be duped into believeing a B.S story such as the one "Mr. Nice Guy" posted.
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"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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The christian fascism and the religionists in here are sickening.
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[fundie]My God could kick your God's ass, and then give your mother the best she's ever had!!!![/fundie]
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The christian fascism and the religionists in here are sickening.
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troll troll troll
can't you say something nice for a change?
I'm not calling you a troll btw, but your last 3 or 4 posts are.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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troll troll troll
can't you say something nice for a change?
I'm not calling you a troll btw, but your last 3 or 4 posts are.
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Yes you are calling me a troll.
I am accusing you of being a christian fascist, I brought into question the whole validity of that garbage you have been posting.
You are nothing but a nut. Kinda like those ones in cults.
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Yes you are calling me a troll.
I am accusing you of being a christian fascist, I brought into question the whole validity of that garbage you have been posting.
You are nothing but a nut. Kinda like those ones in cults.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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