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The rebuttal of the century. 
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March 10, 2004, 22:45
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The rebuttal of the century.
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It's not any worse than yours.
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March 10, 2004, 22:46
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It's not any worse than yours.
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Yes it is.
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March 10, 2004, 22:47
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I rest my case.
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March 10, 2004, 22:47
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Well, GOD is definitely good. Regardless on how you worship Him/Her. Whether be Jewish, Christian. Islamic or any other religion.
What I DON'T like is how we screwed the message up with the church and all it's wheeling and dealings.
I'm glad I'm Buddhist (with some Shinto and Christianity thrown in there for good measure).
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March 10, 2004, 22:48
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Well, GOD is definitely good. Regardless on how you worship Him/Her. Whether be Jewish, Christian. Islamic or any other religion.
What I DON'T like is how we screwed the message up with the church and all it's wheeling and dealings.
I'm glad I'm Buddhist (with some Shinto and Christianity thrown in there for good measure).
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What about us atheists who could care less? 
Now I'm trolling people. 
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March 10, 2004, 22:48
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The greatest understatement of all time
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Indeed.
And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore,
"they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat upon them,
nor any scorching heat.
For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;
he will lead them to springs of living water.
And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."
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March 10, 2004, 22:49
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Awesome!
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March 10, 2004, 22:49
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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March 10, 2004, 22:50
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March 10, 2004, 22:52
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*wave* to the people that do have religion in this thread.
Ever heard of constellations?
The absolute best rebuttal on the internet is actually ignorance. If you just don't respond to what someone has said, you can pretend they never even said it at all.
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March 10, 2004, 22:53
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God is so great he simply cannot be described in words. The words "Our God is an awesome God" comes from a hymnal btw. And it's about the best one-phrase statement we could possibly use to describe Him in the human sense.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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March 10, 2004, 22:54
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Originally posted by Lorizael
*wave* to the people that do have religion in this thread.
Ever heard of constellations?
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You mean like Obi Gyn?
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March 10, 2004, 22:54
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Originally posted by Vanguard
Matthew 4:8
"Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world,"
There are also numerous uses of the phrase "Four Corners of the Earth" and "Ends of the Earth"
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Ps. 103:12
"As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us."
And the fact that the Sun sets, then "hurries back to its rising point"
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Indeed.
However, I am confused? Where does the Bible say the world is flat? I've read it through and don't remember that part.
While the quotes you show are good they hardly answer my question.
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March 10, 2004, 22:55
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So is this passage meant to be a treatise on geography?
Could not the devil escort Christ anywhere around the world?
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And are these any more than figures of speech?
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For as high as the heavens are above the Earth, so great is his love for those who fear him.
Is this not a splendid simile?
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Easier to do with the Ignore List feature. 
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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March 10, 2004, 22:56
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God is so great he simply cannot be described in words. The words "Our God is an awesome God" comes from a hymnal btw. And it's about the best one-phrase statement we could possibly use to describe Him in the human sense.
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he (and other imaginary beings) don't inspire awe in me.
You are thus refuted.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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March 10, 2004, 22:57
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to the people that do have religion in this thread.
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Your point?
I used to be an astronomy major, and I still am an amateur astronomer.
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Your point?
I used to be an astronomy major, and I still am an amateur astronomer.
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Gazing into the Benaverse?
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March 10, 2004, 23:01
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The point is that there are constellations representing pagan deities and symbols all over the universe, so the fact that there is a sort of cross like something somewhere in the universe doesn't really prove anything.
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Club thread! 
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"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."
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Yeah, well that's what we wrote back then. Nowadays it's a little different, you know? Had Dad paid attention to what sort of son he actually had (as opposed to the sort of son he actually wanted) he would've realized that I was totally 100% tempermentally unsuited for either power or glory, rather desiring to spend my time lost in the joys of song. About 500-odd years ago, I finally had a bit of a nervous breakdown about all the pressure I was under... "Come, be born again!" I was asked... "This time they won't kill you... no, this time you'll come in power to judge the living *and* the dead!" they plead... "Look, it's your DESTINY!!" dad thundered.
So I took a powder. Went on a five day bender that had me so far gone that it took another five days just to detox. Had a few meetings with the shrink, who then had to break the news to Dad: I just wasn't cut out for the Godhood racket. Oh, I was OK if I was being sent out as an observer, even a protector, but to be in charge of the whole shebang? Couldn't, wouldn't do it.
So I don't know. I'm supposed to have a second coming to save all the sinners and what-not, but I'm no longer in the biz. So I guess y'all will have to wait. I'm sorry.
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he (and other imaginary beings) don't inspire awe in me.
You are thus refuted.
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You sir are not the only person that matters in this world.
Thus I am not refuted.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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March 10, 2004, 23:02
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Originally posted by Lorizael
The point is that there are constellations representing pagan deities and symbols all over the universe, so the fact that there is a sort of cross like something somewhere in the universe doesn't really prove anything.
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Oh now I see what you are trying to say.. I just didn't quite understand at first.
Well anyways, I am off to watching Jeopardy so I can answer a bunch of questions wrong and feel stupid. 
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March 10, 2004, 23:03
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Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
You sir are not the only person that matters in this world.
Thus I am not refuted.
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and neither are you.
Thus you are.
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God is so great he simply cannot be described in words. The words "Our God is an awesome God" comes from a hymnal btw. And it's about the best one-phrase statement we could possibly use to describe Him in the human sense.
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In real life, he's a rather ineffectual dolt who lets things run w/o much interference. If things start to go seriously wrong, he just calls Mother in to fix it.
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Gazing into the Benaverse?
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there is a sort of cross like something somewhere in the universe doesn't really prove anything.
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"Having lost all sensitivity, they gave themselves over to sensuality."
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In real life, he's a rather ineffectual dolt who lets things run w/o much interference. If things start to go seriously wrong, he just calls Mother in to fix it.
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and neither are you.
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Everyone matters to God. Everyone can be saved. It's your choice.
Thus I am not.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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