Al Qaeda calls a truce

Saint Marcus · March 18, 2004, 19:17

Also posted in a different thread, in a different context:

CAIRO (Reuters) - A group claiming to have links with al Qaeda said on Wednesday it was calling a truce in its Spanish operations to see if the new Madrid government would withdraw its troops from Iraq, a pan-Arab newspaper said.

In a statement sent to the Arabic language daily al-Hayat, the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, which claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombings that killed 201 people, also urged its European units to stop all operations.

It seems that Spain's recent actions have pulled Europe of of Al Qaeda's target list.

And I can't say I'm unhappy about this news...not one bit.

Pekka · March 18, 2004, 19:20

No no this is brilliant tactics from AQ. This way they can now attack next European country and call truce when they pull out, the rest will follow except the UK. Now Europeans say to Americans 'pull out and they call you truce too' which would be BS.

AQ hates the US and hates the UK they'll never stop no matter what they do. With this, they just try to turn friends against each other. Good strategy.

Japher · March 18, 2004, 19:21

Boooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Cowards!!! THe Terrorists Have Won!

They Can Go around killing innocent people, your people, and your going to just let them get away with it!!!!?

Fine!

Saint Marcus · March 18, 2004, 19:23

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This way they can now attack next European country and call truce when they pull out

No, because the group also called for an end to ALL european operations. Not just the ones in Spain.

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With this, they just try to turn friends against each other.

Bush did that all by himself.

Capt Dizle · March 18, 2004, 19:24

What?

Pekka · March 18, 2004, 19:25

I call BS on this anyway. Why would they not target UK?
This is just AQ playing the good cop and the bad cop and we're all suspected.

You know this is a good call from their part. They're taking the initiative here. We can't let them have the initiative. I say we chase them to the end of the world.

Pekka · March 18, 2004, 19:26

Saint Marcus, you're on the wrong road if you trust TERRORISTS.

Japher · March 18, 2004, 19:27

Maybe this is because AQ is about to get smashed, so they are trying to seem to still have control.

Spiffor · March 18, 2004, 19:29

This truce is bullshit, even if an influential group issued it (which is a big if already).

They are buying time to regroup and to focus their efforts on other targets. Accepting this truce has no chance whatsoever to weaken them, which should be the common objective of all countries.

to you for supporting it.

Spiffor · March 18, 2004, 19:32

There is a word called Hudna in Arabic. Speak to our Israelis about it. The Hamas pledged a Hudna with Israel, and the cease-fire did last for some time. During this time, the Hamas could regroup, and it struck exactly where and when it wanted after that.

IIUC, the Hudna was a move used by Mohammed in his conquests to fool the enemy in a false sense of safety. I would never trust Muslim extremists with their truces, given from whom they are inspired

DinoDoc · March 18, 2004, 19:32

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Originally posted by Saint Marcus

It seems that Spain's recent actions have pulled Europe of of Al Qaeda's target list.

And I can't say I'm unhappy about this news...not one bit.

Because we know how well those Middle East truces have worked for Israel.

Harovan · March 18, 2004, 19:33

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Originally posted by Pekka
Saint Marcus, you're on the wrong road if you trust TERRORISTS.

True. AQ can call a truce all it wants, it is still a snake, the head of which needs to be cut.

Asher · March 18, 2004, 19:33

I love how some Euros find ways to blame the US, even when the same terrorist groups attack them.

It's rather uncanny, and not unlike certain fruit-loving computer users I know.

Japher · March 18, 2004, 19:34

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It's rather uncanny, and not unlike certain fruit-loving computer users I know.

Way to find the angle there Asher

Saint Marcus · March 18, 2004, 19:35

I don't need to accept this truce, they called it, with the only condition being Spain's withdrawl (which they are doing anyways) of it's forces from Iraq. And we Europeans never supported the war in Iraq to begin with, and should withdraw our troops regardless of what Al Qaeda says. This is just a very welcome added bonus.

Saint Marcus · March 18, 2004, 19:36

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Because we know how well those Middle East truces have worked for Israel.

Israel didn't exactly hold up it's own end of the bargain, did it?

Asher · March 18, 2004, 19:37

Its insight like Saint Marcus' which is why Europe is nothing but a rather unimportant cluster of have-beens, pestering the world with their ridiculous irrelevant opinions.

DinoDoc · March 18, 2004, 19:39

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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
I don't need to accept this truce, they called it, with the only condition being Spain's withdrawl (which they are doing anyways) of it's forces from Iraq. And we Europeans never supported the war in Iraq to begin with, and should withdraw our troops regardless of what Al Qaeda says. This is just a very welcome added bonus.

[O]ther recent targets of Islamic militants have been Turkey, Morocco, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, not one of which supported the war or sent troops into Iraq in the afterwar. Al Qaeda's declaration of jihad had, as its first demand, the withdrawal of American troops from Saudi Arabia. Osama bin Laden does not seem to have noticed, but the troops are gone—yet the jihad continues.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4523577/

Japher · March 18, 2004, 19:39

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And we Europeans never supported the war in Iraq to begin with, and should withdraw our troops regardless of what Al Qaeda says. This is just a very welcome added bonus.

WE EUROPEANS now equal Germans and French I guess... See what the EU has done! Italy was a big supporter, as was Spain and Poland, as well as other powerhouses. Regardless of whether you support the US in Iraq, the US' war on terror, etc... you are still suseptible to the crimes of terrorist who hate the western world and the western way of life. As long as you are a christian you are their enemy. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you can't start saving yourselves.

Spiffor · March 18, 2004, 19:39

It's insights like Asher's which is why Canada has always been a rather useless country

Asher · March 18, 2004, 19:40

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It's insights like Asher's which is why Canada has always been a rather useless country

To be useful is to paint a bullseye on your forehead.

Japher · March 18, 2004, 19:41

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It's insights like Asher's which is why Canada has always been a rather useless country

I liked his, it was a good troll at worse.

Spiffor · March 18, 2004, 19:41

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Originally posted by Japher
WE EUROPEANS now equal Germans and French I guess...

No, it refers to the European people, who were overwhelmingly against the war, save for the British.

The Mad Monk · March 18, 2004, 19:42

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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
I don't need to accept this truce, they called it, with the only condition being Spain's withdrawl (which they are doing anyways) of it's forces from Iraq. And we Europeans never supported the war in Iraq to begin with, and should withdraw our troops regardless of what Al Qaeda says. This is just a very welcome added bonus.

Terms Of Surrender.

Harovan · March 18, 2004, 19:43

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Originally posted by Japher
WE EUROPEANS now equal Germans and French I guess... See what the EU has done! Italy was a big supporter, as was Spain and Poland, as well as other powerhouses.

You forgot to add, "The government of...". Neither in Italy, nor in Spain, nor in Poland, the majority ever supported the war.

As far as I know, not even in the UK, at least not for long.

Spiffor · March 18, 2004, 19:43

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Originally posted by Asher
To be useful is to paint a bullseye on your forehead.

Yep. Thanks to Steath Nation Technology (tm) , Canda doesn't even need to surrender to AQ

Asher · March 18, 2004, 19:45

Canada quietly manufactures NATO's munitions, and nobody seems to know or care.

Not to mention providing substantial amounts of oil to the US War Machine.

oedo · March 18, 2004, 19:45

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Italy was a big supporter

Italy provided no support at all. Germany provided more support than Italy, although we officially opposed the war. Italy did exactly other way round. They agreed but didn't support.

Saint Marcus · March 18, 2004, 19:45

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Its insight like Saint Marcus' which is why Europe is nothing but a rather unimportant cluster of have-beens, pestering the world with their ridiculous irrelevant opinions.

Says the Canadian!

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other recent targets of Islamic militants have been Turkey, Morocco, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia

All Muslim nations. Let the Muslim's deal with their own affairs. You didn't see Muslims jumping in to stop the northern ireland clashed between the protestants and catholics, so why should we step in when various muslim sects clash?

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WE EUROPEANS now equal Germans and French I guess... See what the EU has done! Italy was a big supporter, as was Spain and Poland, as well as other powerhouses.

70+% of the Spaniards and Italians were AGAINST the war in Iraq. So yes, we Europeans were against it. Not just the French and the Germans, but also the Italians, Spanish, Belgians, Dutch, etc, etc, etc. We didn't want the war. Yes. WE.

Japher · March 18, 2004, 19:46

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You forgot to add, "The government of...". Neither in Italy, nor in Spain, nor in Poland, the majority ever supported the war. As far as I know, not even in the UK, at least not for long.

So be mad that your republics suck or that your votes aren't reflective of democracy and get angry at your leaders, not America.