March 18, 2004, 22:51
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July '48: Hot Fun in the Summertime
June wrap-up:
Both of our T-34s have done battle outside Ashdod, and in a brilliant display of maneouvres, the units have been decorated by the CoS. Veteran T-34s... bahahaha. Two of them. Bahahahaha!
DEFENCE & ECONOMY
Ashdod, Metullah and Eilat have built improvements.
Tzahal researched after we discovered pioneer spirits.
Our friends from overseas ship us $3000 more. *cheers*
Defence and Economy, please read front reports, as I have possible purchase/build necessities there.
Casualty list follows.
NORTHERN FRONT
The Golan seems readily defensible from what I can see. Several Syrian T-34s have been destroyed, and, for the most part, the Syrian attacks, while spirited, seem... stunted.
Now here's something we weren't bargaining for. The Lebanese have steamrolled down the road and hit Nahariyyah... hard. They've two or three tanks, and at least 1 T-34 (that was our casualty there). I'm thinking of sending a T-34 to patrol that road until it is secure. We also need CITY DEFENCES URGENTLY in Nahariyyah, I think.
Not much happened along this front. The Golan has sustained damage (we need to replace that AA IMHO, fast), Mishmar wasn't even targetted at all. I remain optimistic about our defensive layout, General Mikhoels did a wonderful job entrenching our boys here.
HOME FRONT
Well, the Palestinians seem to be more than just bark here, there are several fighters roaming, and we lost more Kibbutznicks than pleases me. Terrible news, refugees have been fleeing from Gesher, which is ready to fall, and Beth Shean will most surely be cut off. There are quite a few planes, it is IMPERATIVE for all these cities to have AA (except Beth Shean. Good luck fellows.)
I'm afraid that for all the push I wanted to do in this front, the Palestinians seems to be too spirited for us to go on the offensive yet.
JUDEAN FRONT
Glaze my nipples and call me Rita, I've seen more action here than in a Parisian brothel. Those boys of ours sitting in that fortress outside Jerusalem have been given hell, horsemen, tanks and artillery, but they hold out, they hold out. However, I've seen so many units roaming that it isn't even fun. I want the capture of Jerusalem to be our TOP priority at the moment, and I want artillery to be run up to that front double quick. With those $3000 we could definetly buy three WWII artillery pieces I think, they're pretty cheap, and pack that decisive punch we need to run the Pali's out of our Holy City.
SINAI FRONT
Gaza worries me. It's too quiet. I expected thunder, fire and carnage, but the Egyptians are nowhere to be found. So I took the liberty of sortieing our Spits squadron on a recon mission and, I tell you boys, this front is gonna be hell. In the triangle of El Arish, Rafa and Tekumah, there are 3 T-34s, at least 1 (possible 2) armoured cars, and at least 2 WWI artillery flying Egyptian colours. I would like Ashdod to rush a barracks, we need to be able to repair our units close up to the front to sortie with tanks. Artillery will be nigh on useless along this front, so as soon as we get that second T-34 I will be shipping most of it off to Jerusalem. The T-34 I had sent to Ashdod I shipped to Tel Aviv for repairs, it will be ready in August, along with the other T-34, also getting repairs.
Eilat, now this place friggin scares me. With the machine guns and AA gone, I have little hope for maintaining this position. Please sell off the best improvements so that we can get some money, try and destroy enemy units with the remaining Hagana and Irgun, and abandon it to its luck. I have rebased the Zion worker tagged to Eilat to Nevatim, btw. Now more than ever that airlift operation seems to be the ticket to victory here, in case of bringing our Yemenite brethren home in the form of units. I want to authorise our defence minister to construct an airport in Tel Aviv.
We also lost that city with no defences to the evil Egyptians.
COS part I (El Awrence) - DONE
Northern Front: (Stalin II) -
Home Front: (Yaroslav) -
Judean East (Yaroslav) -
Sinai Front: (Rasputin) -
Immigration (Conmcb25 acting) -
Defense (Conmcb25) -
Econ - (Arthedain) -
COS part II (El Awrence) -
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March 18, 2004, 22:52
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And the save...
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March 18, 2004, 23:00
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woohoo its back on !!!!
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March 18, 2004, 23:06
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Before people play, let's ponder the situation for a day or two. :S
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March 19, 2004, 05:00
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As I said, there is some problems with civ.
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March 19, 2004, 07:07
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Come back when you may, Comrade Sadeh.
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March 19, 2004, 09:47
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Did I destroy the big threat of an attack from the east (north)?
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March 19, 2004, 12:58
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Not that I think, there are several T-34s roaming in the Golan, and countless other enemy units. But we are too entrenched to be at serious risk, IMHO.
Lebanese T-34s scare the shyte out of me though.
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March 19, 2004, 21:46
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Guess we will have to airlift or found a city down in Saudi Arabia. (We need not airlift, but use immigrants to build a second army if we so wish.) That lack of city defenses really cost us, the former commander of that front (not you Rasputin) has drawn my ire.
In a few turns, those immigrants could at least churn out a few Palmach to go after Dahab. (I would find the city near the whale 55,187, so it can have enough support production, and some grass).
As for reinforcements, I would get 3 T-34's (especially since we have money), and send one to Lebanon, one to Ashod, and one to Jerusalem. I think with Lebanon once we destroy those attacking forces, the road should be secure with local forces and the destroyer. The Lebanese shouldn't have that much recources to make good those losses for a while, so that T-34 could be redeployed.
I would use the other one to try to take East Jerusalem very soon. We need to capture that city and move on north so we can get into those Palestinian forces northward. (I know some would suggest leaving East Jerusalem be, but I think attacking Ramallah right now would be even harder than attacking East Jerusalem).
I think with the Egyptian front the T-34 should perhaps strike at the armored car, though I wonder if it could retreat before the cavalry got it. The T-34's seem to far to engage. I think we are going to lose some more desert outposts out there if the Egyptians go for those instead of head up north to Ashod.
In the West Bank, Degania needs AA, then city defenses, and probably more defenders. Those planes are nasty, and we need to think of some way to counter them.
Thread stickied.
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March 19, 2004, 22:01
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I think WW2 artillery would be better suited for the capture of Jerusalem, and any further actions in the Home Front.
T-34s are risked when we try to attack walled cities. They're great against non walled cities and open ground, but I'd like to play it safe with our expensive tanks.
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March 20, 2004, 01:56
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You know T-34's ignore city defenses?
Nevertheless, I agree the T-34 should not be the first attacker, it should be arty. But when the first one or two defenders are gone, the T-34 could be used to rapidly get rid of the weaker defense.
I agree though, arty would still be needed in good quantities, since Jerusalem is on a hill, and arty has higher attack value.
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March 20, 2004, 08:12
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Is the front commander the person who sells improvements in Eilat or is it me or defence minister?
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March 20, 2004, 09:46
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You know T-34's ignore city defenses?
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Fancy. It's that I did a few test runs, and T-34s would usually lose so many HPs that they'd be useless the next turn after taking on one unit, and it would exhaust their moves. I figured artillery would work better. (4 FP)
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Is the front commander the person who sells improvements in Eilat or is it me or defence minister?
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Economy will sell. But please decide together with con if you think it merits it.
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March 21, 2004, 14:22
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Originally posted by El Awrence Economy will sell. But please decide together with con if you think it merits it.
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Ok, then he may please recommend a improvement for me to sell this turn!
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March 21, 2004, 19:08
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If we have finished the discuss, I'll play my best tomorrow
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March 21, 2004, 21:04
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Yes, please play. I hate quiet ponderings.
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March 22, 2004, 18:25
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Re: July '48: Hot Fun in the Summertime
COS part I (El Awrence) - DONE
Northern Front: (Stalin II) -
Home Front: (Yaroslav) - DONE
Judean East (Yaroslav) - DONE
Sinai Front: (Rasputin) -
Immigration (Conmcb25 acting) -
Defense (Conmcb25) -
Econ - (Arthedain) -
COS part II (El Awrence) -
Both Home front and Judean Front played, and file posted. Please see the threads to get details.
No city was conquered, no unit was lost, some enemy units were destroyed and the siege of Jerusalem continues, against my opinion.
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March 22, 2004, 21:45
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sinai front played... post details in sinai thread...
but nothing to report dont have many units to do anything with..
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March 22, 2004, 22:50
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Originally posted by Rasputin
sinai front played... post details in sinai thread...
but nothing to report dont have many units to do anything with..
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Eh, the save, Ras!
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March 23, 2004, 16:26
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Originally posted by PinkyGen
Guess we will have to airlift or found a city down in Saudi Arabia. (We need not airlift, but use immigrants to build a second army if we so wish.) That lack of city defenses really cost us, the former commander of that front (not you Rasputin) has drawn my ire.
In a few turns, those immigrants could at least churn out a few Palmach to go after Dahab. (I would find the city near the whale 55,187, so it can have enough support production, and some grass).
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Im not sure what you mean here.
We HAVE to found a city to do anything. We CAN NOT airlift from an airbase. It just wont do it.
What will capturing Dahab do for us? When (not if ) Eliat falls that city will be even more isolated from the Front. And my guess is we have not lost our last city in the Sinai
Im thinking more and more we have to build a couple of airports.
I SHOULD just set up a separate thread for a poll.
Ill work on that
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March 23, 2004, 16:29
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Build the airport in Tel Aviv.
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March 23, 2004, 18:57
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Originally posted by El Awrence
Economy will sell. But please decide together with con if you think it merits it.
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Sell the coastal fortress, its 80 gold, and nothing is worth more in Eliat plus thats the one thing we aren't using right now, if it lasts a few more turns we will seel other stuf
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March 23, 2004, 21:16
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Thanks for the tip conmcb25!
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March 23, 2004, 21:18
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Thanks for the tip conmcb25!
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No problem
I forgot how much I enjoyed these Demo games when I actually played them
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March 24, 2004, 06:24
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When I get home I'll play my turn. Do not fear!
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March 25, 2004, 08:37
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RASPUTIN: Where is the file?!
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March 26, 2004, 01:13
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very good question, asked that in his own thread..
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March 26, 2004, 02:48
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ooops sorry , forgot something didnt i !!!!
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March 26, 2004, 14:20
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played the turn. The link to the thread is here
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March 28, 2004, 18:23
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Post progress. Seems everything falls apart when I go away.
COS part I (El Awrence) - DONE
Northern Front: (Stalin II) - DONE
Home Front: (Yaroslav) - DONE
Judean East (Yaroslav) - DONE
Sinai Front: (Rasputin) - DONE
Immigration (Conmcb25 acting) - Not yet
Defense (Conmcb25) - Not yet
Econ - (Arthedain) - Not yet
COS part II (El Awrence) - Not yet.
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