March 29, 2004, 03:37
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I agree. If, for example, I were playing as Dee, and Buster as Morgan, then as soon as he chose an SE that was my "aversion" I would be role-playing bound to declare vendetta. (And PK's with Hive, and so on) And I could only pact with those who had similar value sets compatible with mine.
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I like the idea of this Googlie, but I'm not sure about being bound to declare vendetta. Perhaps you could send a warning first (especially to the DG team faction) and give them some time to mend their ways, an ultimatum perhaps. I can see the DG faction getting pretty pissed off if the SP-AI factions keep declaring vendetta without warning.
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But an interesting degree of "randomness" could be introduced by having, for example, the SPDG faction, 3 human-controlled single player factions, and 3 AI factions set up as a master/2submissive arrangement. With a wily CMN such as Darsnan it could be made quite a challenge for all players
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I like  I like a lot  A three-way pact could be a real monster of an opponent if set up correctly.
-Jam
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March 29, 2004, 11:42
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Or another idea:
You land on Chiron in 2150, (splintered into the SPDG faction and 2 AI- human-Assisted factions) to find 2/3rds of Planet inhabited by the Progenitors engaged in a violent civil war and themselves splintered into 4 factions (A Usurper and Usurper clone and a Caretaker and Caretaker clone)
They (all 4) have fairly well developed structures - say 8 to 10 or so bases each, and are fairly well into the tech tree
You have to nurture your small faction into healthy existence either with the help of - or hindered by - the 2 other Human factions
Many of the choice SP's will be gone (eg the Empath Guild - either disabled or already built by the prog factions), Victory conditions will be only 3 - Conquest, Transcendence or Energy Monopoly, and Council will be disabled (so no Governor - thus any infiltration must be through probe action, and not through guild or governorship)
Diplomacy thus takes 2 forms - with the other human factions and - inevitably - choosing sides in the Civil War
One good thing - you know that the Progs won't gang up on you, as try as I might as a CMN in other scenarios, I can't get them to ally, be submissive to another prog faction, or even talk or tech trade with each other.
Interesting set-up?
G.
Edit: Copied to the relevant thread as well
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March 29, 2004, 12:14
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That sounds like a better game for us to be playing. 
A controllable challenge.
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March 29, 2004, 12:38
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I also like this idea.
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March 30, 2004, 03:57
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 Sounds interesting to me.
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March 30, 2004, 17:17
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Love it
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March 30, 2004, 20:52
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
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Thread closed.
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